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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D rumored to launch end of October - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9000X3D series was mentioned during Gigabyte press conference The new X3D SKUs should appear this year. According to Chiphell leaker “zhangzhonghao,” who claims to have information from Gigabyte’s X870 motherboard showcase, which was also attended by AMD employees, the company is...

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According to Chiphell leaker “zhangzhonghao,” who claims to have information from Gigabyte’s X870 motherboard showcase, which was also attended by AMD employees, the company is reportedly launching three X3D SKUs, but they are not coming at the same time.

The rumors about the 9000X3D series were initially sparked by AMD themselves, as their employees were eager to discuss what’s coming next for the AM5 socket. The new CPUs will have some “cool differentiators,” claimed a product manager, though this wasn’t explained in detail. Meanwhile, leakers have shared insights from board makers, who are often notified about upcoming CPU updates in advance.

This time, the 9950X3D and 9900X3D will have some new features, so they won’t be released alongside the 9800X3D. I’m guessing they’ll be available early next year. […]

It’s not just me saying this; AMD’s official representatives have also hinted at it. AMD people attended Gigabyte’s X870 launch event. Moreover, this year, there are indeed only the 9800X3D, 9950X3D, and 9900X3D, as there are new things coming next year.

— zhangzhonghao, Chiphell

 

[Rentahamster]

I hope it's good.

 

[Frwrd]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

 

[Celcius]

Basically the same time as Arrow Lake then.
This is going to be interesting....

 

[Mokus]

Let's be prepared for excitement and disappointment in the same time.

 

[Von Hugh]

Better make it a good one. 5800X3D and 7800X3D are big boots to fill.

 

[Puscifer]

Better make it a good one. 5800X3D and 7800X3D are big boots to fill.

I'd argue just the 5800X3D, the fact that's still a good option against the 7800X3D says a lot. I just wish there was more itx options for am4 when I built

 

[OverHeat]

Will wait for the 7950x3d next year

 

[Celcius]

 

[winjer]

Alleged Ryzen 9000X3D Cinebench R23 scores emerge, 10% to 28% faster than 7000X3D - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9000X3D performance in Cinebench R23 New rumors from Code Commando. There’s a new leak—or should we say, rumor—about the upcoming Ryzen 9000X3D series. For those unaware of AMD’s plans, we recommend checking out our earlier post about the leak featuring the 9800X3D. In summary, the 8-core...

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When comparing the results to the previous generation, it appears we’re seeing double-digit gains across the board. We’re using recently updated data from a Guru3D review, which shows:

• Ryzen 9 9950X3D is 10% faster in single-core and 17% faster in multi-core than Ryzen 9 7950X3D and
• Ryzen 7 9800X3D is 20% faster in single-core and 28% faster in multi-core than Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

 

[GHG]

AMD have an event on the 10th October so I'd guess that would be a sensible time to reveal these.

 

[winjer]

 

[winjer]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D teased with 5.2 GHz all-core clock - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D reportedly featuring 4.7 GHz base and 5.2 GHz all core clock in Cinebench This might be one of the first leaks featuring AMD’s highly anticipated processor, the 8-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D. While a previous leak showed an alleged score from the Cinebench R23 benchmark, this one...

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[digitaltrance]

What is the difference between Ryzen 7 9800X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D?

 

[Ironbunny]

What is the difference between Ryzen 7 9800X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D?

8 core to 12 core I believe

 

[winjer]

What is the difference between Ryzen 7 9800X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D?

The 9800X3D should use only one CCD, with an extra 64MB on top.
The 9900X3D should use 2 CCDs, each with 6 cores. And each CCD with 64MB of extra L3.

The problem with the 9900X3D is that if a game uses more than 6 cores, it will send those extra threads to the next CCD.
And because going from one CCD to another has higher latency, it can cause a performance hit.
If gaming is important for you, it's better to go with a 9800X3D or an 9950X3D.

 

[twilo99]

This is going to be very good.

 

[KellyNole]

The 9800X3D should use only one CCD, with an extra 64MB on top.
The 9900X3D should use 2 CCDs, each with 6 cores. And each CCD with 64MB of extra L3.

The problem with the 9900X3D is that if a game uses more than 6 cores, it will send those extra threads to the next CCD.
And because going from one CCD to another has higher latency, it can cause a performance hit.
If gaming is important for you, it's better to go with a 9800X3D or an 9950X3D.

There also has been rumors all cores on the 9900 and 9950 will have 3d cache. If that is true, you wouldn't see as bad of a performance hit in games this time around. We shall see though.

 

[Ironbunny]

The 9800X3D should use only one CCD, with an extra 64MB on top.
The 9900X3D should use 2 CCDs, each with 6 cores. And each CCD with 64MB of extra L3.

The problem with the 9900X3D is that if a game uses more than 6 cores, it will send those extra threads to the next CCD.
And because going from one CCD to another has higher latency, it can cause a performance hit.
If gaming is important for you, it's better to go with a 9800X3D or an 9950X3D.

Does the 9950x3d come in a one 16 core ccd?

 

[OverHeat]

Does the 9950x3d come in a one 16 core ccd?

No

 

[winjer]

Does the 9950x3d come in a one 16 core ccd?

No.
But it has 8 cores, so it's more likely to keep all of a game's threads in one CCD.

 

[Celcius]

Things are starting to get interesting in the CPU space

 

[winjer]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D rumored for early November launch, Intel confirms Core Ultra 200 will be about 5% slower than 7000X3D - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D incoming According to the rumors, AMD could present their highly anticipated X3D processor right after Intel launches its new series. Chiphell members are discussing the potential launch date for the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. A rumor cites now-deleted comments from an AMD...

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9800X3D to be released on October 25
The news comes from an AMD agent, posted on Bilibili, but the post has already been deleted. Sales are estimated to start between November 1-5.

 

[Von Hugh]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D rumored for early November launch, Intel confirms Core Ultra 200 will be about 5% slower than 7000X3D - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D incoming According to the rumors, AMD could present their highly anticipated X3D processor right after Intel launches its new series. Chiphell members are discussing the potential launch date for the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. A rumor cites now-deleted comments from an AMD...

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That's savage. And earlier than I thought.

 

[digitaltrance]

The 9800X3D should use only one CCD, with an extra 64MB on top.
The 9900X3D should use 2 CCDs, each with 6 cores. And each CCD with 64MB of extra L3.

The problem with the 9900X3D is that if a game uses more than 6 cores, it will send those extra threads to the next CCD.
And because going from one CCD to another has higher latency, it can cause a performance hit.
If gaming is important for you, it's better to go with a 9800X3D or an 9950X3D.

Ah ok, nice thank you!

 

[Pagusas]

The 9800X3D should use only one CCD, with an extra 64MB on top.
The 9900X3D should use 2 CCDs, each with 6 cores. And each CCD with 64MB of extra L3.

The problem with the 9900X3D is that if a game uses more than 6 cores, it will send those extra threads to the next CCD.
And because going from one CCD to another has higher latency, it can cause a performance hit.
If gaming is important for you, it's better to go with a 9800X3D or an 9950X3D.

For people like me who use their machine for both work and gaming, you can easily get around that issue by just restricting the games to one CCD. I use ProcessLaso for this, works great. If the 9950x3D really does have 3D cache on both CCD's, I'll upgrade my 7950x to it.

 

[Jigsaah]

It's time. Why am I so excited about this?

 

[Celcius]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D rumored to debut on October 25th, a day after Intel Core Ultra 200K launch - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D debuts October 25th, but won’t lunch until early November The company is said to lift the curtain on its most anticipated desktop CPU in 10 days. October 25th will be the day after Intel launches its Core Ultra 200K “Arrow Lake-S” processors, but it is also rumored to be the...

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Latest rumors say announcement the day after arrow lake launches and then release early November.

 

[winjer]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D supports DDR5-8800 MT/s memory on high-end X870E motherboard - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D teased supporting fast memory It looks like someone is spoiling the capabilities of AMD’s upcoming gaming CPU features. It appears that the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D is now available to leakers or employees of motherboard manufacturers who are willing to share interesting details...

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[OverHeat]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D supports DDR5-8800 MT/s memory on high-end X870E motherboard - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D teased supporting fast memory It looks like someone is spoiling the capabilities of AMD’s upcoming gaming CPU features. It appears that the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D is now available to leakers or employees of motherboard manufacturers who are willing to share interesting details...

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What is going to be the sweet spot this time around for the infinity fabric?

 

[winjer]

What is going to be the sweet spot this time around for the infinity fabric?

It's still Zen5, so the IF will probably have the same speed. So 2000Mhz should be achievable for most people. 2100Mhz for a really good sample. And 2200 for the very best and very rare.

Still, look what Buildzoid managed to do with his 9950X

 

[ap_puff]

Here's Your First Look at a Delidded AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU With Next-Gen 3D V-Cache Tech

AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU has been delidded, revealing the next-generation of 3D V-Cache technology innovations for gamers.

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Looks like the rumors of inverted stacking layout of the 3d cache is confirmed

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Delidded CPU Shows No 3D V-Cache Traces on The Front of the CCD Confirming Updated X3D Tech​

The AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU will be the successor to the Ryzen 7 7800X3D. The latter has been a huge success on the AM5 platform, just like the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was on the AM4 platform. While the chip is expected for a formal launch on the 7th of November as teased by the red team, we have obtained the first delidded pictures of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU from our sources, confirming one big change.

 

[Codeblew]

Will wait for the 7950x3d next year

Same. If I am going to upgrade, it is going to be 16 cores at least. I could really use the extra cores for having more virtual machines running for dev work.

 

[Thebonehead]

Just under twooo weeeeeks until launch

 

[DenchDeckard]

Just under twooo weeeeeks until launch

So pumped!

Going for a smaller format factor build for my front room.

Everything else has been acquired i just need a gpu.

Just realised that this is launching on the same day as ps5 pro.

That's cheeky AMD.

 

[winjer]

Leak of the full specs

 

[Sanepar]

Leak of the full specs

Do u guys think it's worth to upgrade from a 12700k with ddr4 to this?

 

[GHG]

Do u guys think it's worth to upgrade from a 12700k with ddr4 to this?

Only you should know the answer to that.

What games do you want/need more performance in and will that upgrade give you the performance you want?

 

[ap_puff]

Do u guys think it's worth to upgrade from a 12700k with ddr4 to this?

Probably not? Depends what you play, what gpu you have, what resolution you play ar, what are your goals with upgrading?

 

[Magic Carpet]

Hopefully I can socket this onto the RTX 5090 and use it as my motherboard. Just plug the Power directly into the GPU and hook all the case connections to the card.
The Daughter has become the Mother.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I might actually go AMD for my next build, as much as I'd hate to admit.

 

[winjer]

Do u guys think it's worth to upgrade from a 12700k with ddr4 to this?

It will depend on what games you play, resolution and the GPU you have.
Supposedly, the 9800X3D will be up to 8% faster than the 7800X3D.
In this graph, we have the 12700K, but with DDR5. Maybe remove 5-10% from yours with DDR4.
So in situations where you are very CPU bound, you'll probably see around 30% extra performance.
But that won't always be the case.

P.S.: As usual, it's better to wait for independent reviews, to see real world performance.

 

[ap_puff]

It will depend on what games you play, resolution and the GPU you have.
Supposedly, the 9800X3D will be up to 8% faster than the 7800X3D.
In this graph, we have the 12700K, but with DDR5. Maybe remove 5-10% from yours with DDR4.
So in situations where you are very CPU bound, you'll probably see around 30% extra performance.
But that won't always be the case.

The 1% lows will improve massively, the question is whether that's worth a platform switch + another $450 cpu on top.

 

[winjer]

The 1% lows will improve massively, the question is whether that's worth a platform switch + another $450 cpu on top.

This is another thing to consider, that is very important.
1% lows are noticeable, even at higher resolutions. And the 9800X3D will be much better, just because of DDR5 and all that L3 cache.

 

[Sanepar]

Only you should know the answer to that.

What games do you want/need more performance in and will that upgrade give you the performance you want?

I use a 4080 usually 1440p so I can see 15-20% gains?

 

[Sanepar]

Probably not? Depends what you play, what gpu you have, what resolution you play ar, what are your goals with upgrading?

I use a 4080, play everything on PC.

 

[Mhmmm 2077]

I'd argue just the 5800X3D, the fact that's still a good option against the 7800X3D says a lot. I just wish there was more itx options for am4 when I built

TBH the recently(-ish) released 5700X3D ain't so bad either, they truly are gaming CPUs.

 

[winjer]

I use a 4080 usually 1440p so I can see 15-20% gains?

Very likely. At least for most games.

You can do a test with your system.
Run a few games, all with RTSS or another similar program, and check your GPU utilization.
If your GPU usage is frequently bellow 99-98%, the you are CPU bound and will benefit from the upgrade.

 

[Insane Metal]

Latest AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 3D V-Cache CPU Benchmarks Show Single-Core Perf On Par With 9950X, Multi-Thread Close To 14700K, Up To 25% Faster Than 7800X3D

AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D 3D V-Cache CPU continues to showcase impressive single & multi-core performance, now matching 9950X & 14700K.

wccftech.com

Holy crap 25% increment over 7800X3D in multicore score. I know the CPU isn't designed for that, but still, it'll be a huge improvement on that specific area. This CPU will be bonkers.