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Avatar: The Way of Water | Review Thread
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Maverick had a story that was almost IMPOSSIBLY dumb, so it relied heavily on nostalgia, "in the moment" epic events, and the megawattage of Cruise. I'd say A2 is relying on many of the same characteristics for its success.
Really, this is an extremely high budget, meticulously crafted, sci-fi action film made by one of the undisputed masters of the genre. Even if there was literally ZERO dialogue in the entire film, it would merit being watched by anyone that is a fan of action filmmaking and is tired of repetitive capeshit with sloppy action, dodgy CG, and internal logical fails.
I see it tomorrow, so maybe I'll change my mind but seems unlikely given I actually liked A1.
Ulysses 31
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8/10 from Angry Joe
He kinda confirms there's a some real dumb things in the movie for the spoiler video that's coming up.
He kinda confirms there's a some real dumb things in the movie for the spoiler video that's coming up.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I've seen the movie in 2D for a couple of seconds when I closed one eye during two or three different scenes. Believe me, the 3D is the way you want to see this movie (if you can).
3D + HFR + Imax + laser projection + underwater scenes is like being in a real life aquarium.
Yep. Dolby Cinema IMAX 3D was like peering into another world more so than watching a movie.
Punished Miku
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Man .... I don't think that's even available where I live.
DeepEnigma
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Fine! I will go see it. There is an amazing IMAX on I-Drive in Orlando.
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TaylorSwiftFan
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How can A2 rely on nostalgia when there are no iconic scenes in the first one?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Sure, let's keep pretending that Avatar was a big nothing burger of a movie that nobody fondly remembers....
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Just be aware that at least for me, there was about 30 minutes of trailers and ads so we were literally in the theater for just shy of 4 hours. If you have kids, that's a lot to ask of them depending on their age.
Punished Miku
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Gonna have to drop the dead weight then. This is your one chance to see it in 3D in theaters.
INC
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So you're saying avatar had an above average story.........with above average acting from Sam Worthington.........Sam Worthington doing above average acting is more rare than unobtanium tbh
Visually yes its stunning, but that doesn't automatically make it above average.
Avatar is a cut and paste film, with themes pretty lifted from other films (dances with wolves, ferngully lol).
It's entertaining and average. Glad you think of it highly tho
I'll still watch the new one, if it's on par with the previous one, then mission complete overall
CosmicComet
Member
I'm afraid to watch this.
Loved the first one. Scared this one will be filled with modern Disney propaganda tropes.
Loved the first one. Scared this one will be filled with modern Disney propaganda tropes.
Don’t be scared, homie.
SirKicksalot
Member
Ticket sales:
Most people under 25 never saw the original in theatres. Their experience now is what we had in 2009.
Most people under 25 never saw the original in theatres. Their experience now is what we had in 2009.
Good to know. I usually come around 20 minutes late to skip trailers.
SirKicksalot
Member
The Mission Impossible preview was dope. The woman never watched one of these and now wants to see it in IMAX lol
And she also LOVED
the whalers being eaten alive and dismembered
I was going to do HFR, but then i heard it switches constantly between HFR and 24fps. That is very disappointing and sounds really annoying.
The variable frame rate adjusts to the needs of each shot. Works very well overall.
Cool. I'll probably still do HFR since if you miss it in theaters you can't replicate it at home. Plus, i enjoyed the HFR in The Hobbit.
I couldn’t tell the switches and I am sensitive. In my opinion this is the way how you do it. Btw The texturing of everything btw is next level stuff . As a graphics whore .. I couldn’t phantom how they did some of the water scenes ..
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Punished Miku
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I got tix for Sunday at noon. Doesn't say if it's HFR or not. Hopefully it is. IMAX 3D.
PaddyOCanager
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Neff
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Saw it today, a good movie but not a great one. Tons of strong moments and beautiful images, but also a lot of preachy meandering and times when you just want the movie to get on with it. For some reason, I never quite felt the rush of adrenaline or sincere waves of emotion that I usually get bombarded by when watching a Cameron movie. It also feels rather hasty and contrived, which is some feat for a 3 hour movie. I wish they'd come up with a good reason to let the RDA use the Avatar program for a simple revenge mission, since it's so expensive and a lot of the movie hinges upon it. I did like the idea of the bad guys from the first movie being revived as a sort of genetic dirty dozen to avenge their human deaths. Very sci-fi, very Cameron.
I think it's absolutely Cameron's weakest movie by far, and certainly not as good as its prequel, but it's still a fun ride. Lots of potential for Avatar 3.
I think it's absolutely Cameron's weakest movie by far, and certainly not as good as its prequel, but it's still a fun ride. Lots of potential for Avatar 3.
TaylorSwiftFan
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Name one iconic scene from Avatar.Sure, let's keep pretending that Avatar was a big nothing burger of a movie that nobody fondly remembers....
DeepEnigma
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When they first walk into the trees at night and it all lights up and glows everywhere and reacts to them.
TaylorSwiftFan
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Yeah right. Right up there with the “you talking to me” scene from Taxi Driver. Parodied and referenced many times - still in the current movie zeitgeist.
Come on, you just pulled a random scene from the first one. The first movie had no culture impact. None.
DeepEnigma
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Punished Miku
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- The final battle.
- When the marine villain shoots at them by holding his breath when they're stealing the ship.
- Jake learning to fly for the first time.
- Jake getting the giant dragon tamed.
- The tree getting exploded.
- Jake leaving his human body behind at the end.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Also fuck having any iconic scene or line or anything memorable I guess. Does it even have a recognisable music theme?
Fuck culture impact.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Do you need Hollywood to impact your culture in life? Or can you just enjoy the spectacle on screen for what it is?
TaylorSwiftFan
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You’re just listing scenes. None of those are iconic.
Nothing to be bitter about. Mediocre movies come out all the time.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
No but if a scene is good, it makes an impression on you. If you forget a movie the moment you leave the theatre, what does it say about the movie?
Punished Miku
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The conversation is about nostalgia. All that nostalgia requires are memorable scenes that people liked. That's all it is, literally.
DeepEnigma
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It says different strokes for different folks.
TaylorSwiftFan
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You have to be really young to associate Avatar with nostalgia. And personally I don’t think a scene being memorable is enough to trigger nostalgia (not that there were any memorable scene).
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
True, true. If RoP can have hardcore fans, this one can too I guess (and I maintain that unless you’re a hardcore fan you won’t remember anything of the original avatar, other than blue cat like creatures).
RiccochetJ
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Yes? After 12 years, I immediately recognized the main theme by the late James Horner.
FunkMiller
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Box office tracking for this puts it at around Dr Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness at 175-180 million domestic.
It's unbelievable that this kind of money would probably be considered a low opening amount for this movie.
It's unbelievable that this kind of money would probably be considered a low opening amount for this movie.
Neff
Member
Unobtanium.
SirKicksalot
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We are here:
Avatar Flops At Box Office (Relatively) With $73 Million Opening Weekend
www.businessinsider.com
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
First China was going to save it, now word of mouth is going to save it? Ok.We are here:
Avatar Flops At Box Office (Relatively) With $73 Million Opening Weekend
Chiggs
Gold Member
Just got back from seeing it:
Pros:
Random thoughts:
Overall: 8.5/10
Pros:
- Next, next, next level visuals.
- Nothing is even close.
- I mean, really.
- Seriously.
- Fuck.
- A surprisingly dominating performance by the bad guy.
- Really liked his interactions with one character in particular.
- A highly entertaining 3rd act that has some really inventive action.
- Bonus points that I really couldn't predict what was going to happen, besides what I could piece together from the trailer.
- A 2nd act that feels like a visit to an aquarium/underwater alien petting zoo, which I didn't expect to enjoy as much as I did.
- Cinematography and shot selection is superior to the first.
- Somehow I didn't mind the children.
- A couple of groan-inducing lines.
- A
really made me laugh.subtitled alien whale
- A
- Hippy-dippy spirituality that will land for some, and simply will not for others.
- And I don't mean environmentalism, by the way...which is there, but not nearly as obnoxious as I thought it might be.
- The score can't touch James Horner's original.
Random thoughts:
- I do feel like James Cameron currently trips acid, which I know might sound like a brainless explanation for his vivid imagination, but there were some tells for me.
- I think the film will do quite good, but won't hit the Avatar or Endgame territory.
- I think clearing 2 billion is quite feasible, though.
Overall: 8.5/10
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arkhamguy123
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Woah woah easy there. I consider there to be like 3 factions of gen Z, early, middle and late. I myself was in the very earliest bracket just barley missing millennial and all my peers saw the first one in theaters. I was in 6th grade and it was one of my favorite movie experiences.
arkhamguy123
Banned
What did you think of the film? Always curious to get your takes on media.
brian0057
Banned
> Create the highest grossing film of all time.Sure, let's keep pretending that Avatar was a big nothing burger of a movie that nobody fondly remembers....
> Make no cultural impact whatsoever.
> Refuse to elaborate.
> Leave (Until the next one comest out)
Respect.
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