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Women Allowed Topless In Pools In Germany For Gender Equality

A decision by the German city of Göttingen to be the country's first to allow topless swimming in its pools is attracting global attention.

www.forbes.com

The city of Göttingen in Lower Saxony, central Germany, will be the first in the country to allow the practice of female topless swimming in its indoor and outdoor pools, thanks to a measure aimed at increasing gender equality.

The initiative permitting swimmers to bathe 'oben-ohne' (topless) took effect on May 1 as a test limited to weekends and set to expire at the end of August.

“With this decision, the city becomes a forerunner in the country concerning the debate on equal treatment between the sexes,” write L’Essentiel, “by permitting women to show their bare torso in aquatic leisure establishments such as swimming pools.”

The gender-identity-and-equality debate​

A ‘gender identity row’ last year seems to be at the root of the temporary regulation by the city’s sports committee recommending that “all swimmers at indoor and outdoor pools should be allowed to swim topless at weekends.”

The ‘gender row’ happened when a transgender swimmer was asked to cover up at a local pool. “The swimmer protested, however, saying they identified as male. Despite the assertion, the pool authority expelled the individual, who was subsequently banned from the premises,” DW reports.

According to the German news site Spiegel, this is what happened: “A swimming pool in Göttingen threw a person out because they bathed topless. But the person does not see herself as a woman. And now there is a new rule.”

Limited Equality​

With the measure, the city intends to advance the debate on equal treatment for women and men in leisure spaces. The principal questions: Why can men show their naked torso but not women? Why must female bodies always be sexualized?

Other debates have started in Göttingen that relate to the “limited equality” accorded by the new regulation. Women’s right to swim topless is time-limited; only during the weekends and just for a few months, which doesn’t compare with men who can swim, go to parks and sunbathe ‘torso nude’ at any and all times.

Some residents find such limitations deplorable, according to AFP. Officials have explained the new practice should not compromise school swimming lessons, which take place during the week.

Many of the articles published about the issue point to the fact that Germany has “a tolerance of and, in some cases, a fondness for being ‘textile free,’” as explained by DW. “Whether it's one of the country's hundreds of spas and wellness resorts, parks or lakes, many citizens here are known for having no qualms about taking their clothes off.”

An unexpected surprise​

Since nudism and the practice of Freikörperkultur — “free body culture” — is accepted and extensive in Germany, what has surprised the local press in Göttingen is the global attention triggered by such a small development.

The Göttingen Tagerblad finds it “amazing” that “this small city in the middle of Germany is suddenly not only in the headlines nationwide, but even internationally. And all that because here, people with breasts could soon be spotted in the swimming pool - exposed!”

 

[Azzurri]

I'm ok with this.

In Las Vegas a few hotels have Adult only pools that allow topless women.

 

[M1chl]

Given how prevalent is topless/nude beach going in Germany to regular beaches, I am really not surprised. Good shit.

 

[jason10mm]

These are not going to be the boobs you are looking for.

 

[nush]

This is some equality I can get behind 100%.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Sure, can’t wait for the amount of reports about men staring. Pools have a lot of younger people. Or maybe this mostly means old saggy tits are free to be exposed. Heh

 

[nush]

Or maybe this mostly means old saggy tits are free to be exposed.

That's the reality.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Eh you're likely to see them national geographic titties in there anyways so no big deal.

 

[BLAUcopter]

 

[strange headache]

I visit the sauna weekly, which is completely nude.
Being topless at the beach is also common practice in most European countries. Unless, you're a total degenerate, it's really not that exciting.

What irks me way more are burkinis becoming an increasingly common occurrence. Don't come to the pool if your retarded religion is the equivalent of 1950s prudism.
F*ck that shit!

 

[Toots]

Women Allowed Topless In Pools In Germany For Gender Equality

A decision by the German city of Göttingen to be the country's first to allow topless swimming in its pools is attracting global attention.

www.forbes.com

The city of Göttingen in Lower Saxony, central Germany, will be the first in the country to allow the practice of female topless swimming in its indoor and outdoor pools, thanks to a measure aimed at increasing gender equality.

The initiative permitting swimmers to bathe 'oben-ohne' (topless) took effect on May 1 as a test limited to weekends and set to expire at the end of August.

“With this decision, the city becomes a forerunner in the country concerning the debate on equal treatment between the sexes,” write L’Essentiel, “by permitting women to show their bare torso in aquatic leisure establishments such as swimming pools.”

The gender-identity-and-equality debate​

A ‘gender identity row’ last year seems to be at the root of the temporary regulation by the city’s sports committee recommending that “all swimmers at indoor and outdoor pools should be allowed to swim topless at weekends.”

The ‘gender row’ happened when a transgender swimmer was asked to cover up at a local pool. “The swimmer protested, however, saying they identified as male. Despite the assertion, the pool authority expelled the individual, who was subsequently banned from the premises,” DW reports.

According to the German news site Spiegel, this is what happened: “A swimming pool in Göttingen threw a person out because they bathed topless. But the person does not see herself as a woman. And now there is a new rule.”

Limited Equality​

With the measure, the city intends to advance the debate on equal treatment for women and men in leisure spaces. The principal questions: Why can men show their naked torso but not women? Why must female bodies always be sexualized?

Other debates have started in Göttingen that relate to the “limited equality” accorded by the new regulation. Women’s right to swim topless is time-limited; only during the weekends and just for a few months, which doesn’t compare with men who can swim, go to parks and sunbathe ‘torso nude’ at any and all times.

Some residents find such limitations deplorable, according to AFP. Officials have explained the new practice should not compromise school swimming lessons, which take place during the week.

Many of the articles published about the issue point to the fact that Germany has “a tolerance of and, in some cases, a fondness for being ‘textile free,’” as explained by DW. “Whether it's one of the country's hundreds of spas and wellness resorts, parks or lakes, many citizens here are known for having no qualms about taking their clothes off.”

An unexpected surprise​

Since nudism and the practice of Freikörperkultur — “free body culture” — is accepted and extensive in Germany, what has surprised the local press in Göttingen is the global attention triggered by such a small development.

The Göttingen Tagerblad finds it “amazing” that “this small city in the middle of Germany is suddenly not only in the headlines nationwide, but even internationally. And all that because here, people with breasts could soon be spotted in the swimming pool - exposed!”

Nice, except its going to be 99% old saggy tits as usual in those kind of places...

I visit the sauna weekly, which is completely nude.
Being topless at the beach is also common practice in most European countries. Unless, you're a total degenerate, it's really not that exciting.

What irks me way more are burkinis becoming an increasingly common occurrence. Don't come to the pool if your retarded religion is the equivalent of 1950s prudism.
F*ck that shit!

Dude if you manage being next to fully naked individuals, you might be able to manage being next to fully clothed individuals don't you think ?
Unless you're a total degenerate, you should not really mind whatever people wear one way or another.
If you, for any racist reason , are in dire need of something bad to say about muslim culture, on the other hand, I guess you can beat up this dead horse...

 

[strange headache]

Dude if you manage being next to fully naked individuals, you might be able to manage being next to fully clothed individuals don't you think ?

I'd say it's the fully clothed individuals who are having trouble being next to half-naked individuals, due to their idiotic outdated religious views.
These idiots are basically regressing women's liberties by about half a century.

 

[Lady Bird]

This is some equality I can get behind 100%.

I was going to say this.

 

[nush]

for any racist reason

Muslims are not a race.

 

[Majukun]

grew up in s country where women can go topless on the beach no problem and there were no issues..so same applies here..doesn't change much if you apply a roof over their heads

 

[FunkMiller]

Muslims are not a race.

A fact lost on countless people, it seems.

It‘s a religion.

 

[Whitecrow]

Ehhnnm... Whatever. Waiting for it to backfire.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

It’s legal for women to walk around and sunbathe topless in New York City, I’m surprised this is even news in Germany.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

That's the reality.

Reality is a bitch when it slaps you in the face.

 

[Kamina]

Good
It‘s just boobs, so no need to be prude about it. Most of the time the fact of them being partially hidden makes it more interesting than otherwise.

 

[Kev Kev]

Ehhnnm... Whatever. Waiting for it to backfire.

 

[Peggies]

I visit the sauna weekly, which is completely nude.
Being topless at the beach is also common practice in most European countries. Unless, you're a total degenerate, it's really not that exciting.

What irks me way more are burkinis becoming an increasingly common occurrence. Don't come to the pool if your retarded religion is the equivalent of 1950s prudism.
F*ck that shit!

Showing your boobs is every woman's god given right and used to be totally normal here until that religious prudism.

No god in his right mind has something against boobs.

Free your boobs, ladies!

 

[nush]

Showing your boobs is every woman's god given right and used to be totally normal here until that religious prudism.

No god in his right mind has something against boobs.

Free your boobs, ladies!

post bobs and vagine pic naow!

 

[strange headache]

Showing your boobs is every woman's god given right and used to be totally normal here until that religious prudism.

No god in his right mind has something against boobs.

Free your boobs, ladies!

My only hope is that those glorious topless boobs will drive away the wrapped up penguins and their oppressive husbands.
So let 'em shine ladies!

 

[V1LÆM]

i always thought it was shit that men can parade around topless but women can't. sure i appreciate a nice pair of boobs but really what's the difference? nipples are nipples. there is nothing scary, dangerous, or explicit about boobs. they are used to feed babies. they are one of the most natural things on this earth. women shouldn't be forced to cover them up. i don't want to sound like some horny guy that's not my point. i guess what i'm saying is boobs are way more interesting and useful than man boobs/nipples. in fact if you're a man with boobs you should be forced to cover up!

 

[M1chl]

A fact lost on countless people, it seems.

It‘s a religion.

Never fails to ask "where the most muslims are located", if people think middle east, they just might be badly educated.

 

[AJUMP23]

The first topless beach I went to was the Dead Sea in Israel. I was surprised to say the least.

When the Muslims in Germany get a hold of this.....

 

[Peggies]

post bobs and vagine pic naow!

Wait what?

 

[strange headache]

When the Muslims in Germany get a hold of this.....

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Awesome. More tits the better.

I thought a lot of Europe has naked bathing and beaches. I wouldnt think this was an issue, but I guess in Germany it is.

i always thought it was shit that men can parade around topless but women can't. sure i appreciate a nice pair of boobs but really what's the difference? nipples are nipples. there is nothing scary, dangerous, or explicit about boobs. they are used to feed babies. they are one of the most natural things on this earth. women shouldn't be forced to cover them up. i don't want to sound like some horny guy that's not my point. i guess what i'm saying is boobs are way more interesting and useful than man boobs/nipples. in fact if you're a man with boobs you should be forced to cover up!

Because the stigma is women's boobs are sex objects, so if they parade around topless, they'll be considered whores and countless horny guys will do drive by grabs or rub up against them as bus stops.

It's one of those topics, which conservative places think hell is coming if women go nude. It's no different than some countries having lax TV nudity/swearing laws and some with strict decency laws on TV. The thinking is if you show T&A on TV everyone will go ape shit raping and pillaging.

 

[dr_octagon]

 

[DeepEnigma]

Remember folks, it's always the fuglies that are the most extreme to get things like this reformed.

 

[John Bilbo]

The principal questions: Why can men show their naked torso but not women? Why must female bodies always be sexualized?

So did they do any research to answer these questions? What reasons did they find?

 

[SlimySnake]

 

[AJUMP23]

Why is a Financial magazine reporting on topless women in Germany. Probably to encourage you to save your money and visit pools in Germany.

 

[Pagusas]

One day humans will look back on this time and scratch their heads trying to understand what the big deal was. But I guess when you have too many men running around forever single/forever virgins, you raise a degenerate society.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why is a Financial magazine reporting on topless women in Germany. Probably to encourage you to save your money and visit pools in Germany.

Forbes over the years have dived off the deep end in the great western culture war. Almost as if they're incentivized to do so?

 

[LordCBH]

 

[ClanOfNone]

Topless beaches/pools sound great in practice, but the ratio is way off. For every great looking rack you see, there are dozens of saggy old ladies.
It ain't worth it.

 

[nkarafo]

Wait.... doesn't this kind of equality clash with "male gaze"?

 

[chromhound]

 

[daveonezero]

Given how prevalent is topless/nude beach going in Germany to regular beaches, I am really not surprised. Good shit.

What beaches are you going to In Germany?

 

[M1chl]

What beaches are you going to In Germany?

Mainly in the north east, Rostock and that sort of places.

 

[GymWolf]

Wait.... doesn't this kind of equality clash with "male gaze"?

No, you pigs have to pretend that nude women are dressed like nuns.

 

[winjer]

It's all fun and games, until the old woman with the saggy tits shows up.
Then you might lose your lunch

 

[Ownage]

What beaches are you going to In Germany?

Prora.

 

[LordCBH]

It's all fun and games, until the old woman with the saggy tits shows up.
Then you might lose your lunch

The nipples hanging down by the knees just means easier access to that old lady powdered milk ok

 

[Umbasaborne]

Its strange. The immediate thought as a guy is yay boobies, but thinking about it further. I find that breasts have become more normalized in my life, and therefore less sexual to me, if that makes sense. My girlfriend routinely walks around our apartment topless, public breast feeding is less stigmatized than it once was, and Toplessness in general is becoming more widely accepted around the globe, and video games and films are regularly starting to have topless scenes that are not necessarily sexy. I totally think there is a world where toplessness at the beach or pool is pretty normal in the next decade, and we wouldn't treat it any differently from a man being topless.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Wait.... doesn't this kind of equality clash with "male gaze"?

I think the ideal is that eventually it becomes so normalized that people dont gaze because they are used to it, the thrill has worn off so to speak

 

[GymWolf]

It's all fun and games, until the old woman with the saggy tits shows up.
Then you might lose your lunch

Someone never heard about the granny category on PH...