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Insider Gaming: Star Citizen and Squadron 42 developer Cloud Imperium Games suffers from executive lay offs
Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Oh no, hopefully it won't delay it longer.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Uh yea, the old director Todd Papy left, because also the USA branch was offered to go to UK Manchester to focus on the game, or leave.
Rich Tyrer is the director now and since he's been there has been a rising star. The game is taking shape.
One old dog I forgot his name also retired after deploying server meshing.
The game went from 50 employees to >1000. You can end up finding new leaders during this kind of expansion.
Nice video explaining better than I could
Rich Tyrer is the director now and since he's been there has been a rising star. The game is taking shape.
One old dog I forgot his name also retired after deploying server meshing.
The game went from 50 employees to >1000. You can end up finding new leaders during this kind of expansion.
Nice video explaining better than I could
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nemiroff
Gold Member
The story is quite a bit more nuanced than that. Remember, they achieved their second-highest funding year ever in 2024 (only shy by a single digit from the previous record). So this story seems to be driven by wishful thinking, almost like a dose of copium for the critics 
It's been talked about a lot: There's a new generation of directors taking over, with new development philosophy. Which is also one of the important reasons why the development has been gaining ground and speed in 2024 more than before.
It's been talked about a lot: There's a new generation of directors taking over, with new development philosophy. Which is also one of the important reasons why the development has been gaining ground and speed in 2024 more than before.
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Optimus Lime
(L3) + (R3) | Spartan rage activated
The most surprising update they could give is 'hey, we've finished the game you suckers invested in'.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They might need to keep that kickstarter going a bit longer.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
It must be close, hopefully a few more months will see it through!
I've a great feeling about this.
nemiroff
Gold Member
It's never going to be finished, it's a live service game afterall. But at least we're playing it right now, and the surprise A4.0 live version is more than playable and enjoyable. It's buggy, that's the main issue.
I feel sorry for people like diffusion in this though, it must be hard to get the scadenfreude rugpulled just like that.
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
LMAO the initial projected release date was November 2014. It’s a shame they didn’t do anything special to celebrate a decade of delays.
nemiroff
Gold Member
You're missing the point. They have no problem with funding as they were close to making a new funding record in 2024. Some people are stepping aside for others, that's pretty much all there is to this. SC isn't going away anytime soon.
They did; They released a new version with new features for people to play right before Christmas. It can be buggy, I've had my ship explode in my hangar for no reason.. But I had a four hour session yesterday and everything worked like a charm. Had a really good time with it.
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j0hnnix
Member
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
The table flipped when Crytek engineers came up with seamless streaming from space to ground. but eh, don't want to enter this discussion again..
Pegasus Actual
Member
All I ever hear is how executives should suffer and be fired so I expect nothing but positive vibes from this Star Citizen thread. As Star Citizen is clearly the game of the people.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
He is a god.
nemiroff
Gold Member
It's all good indeed. And it's a continuation of changes that started to come into effect over the last year or so. This cleanup is the main reason development is focused now and are actually delivering on promises.
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Well thank god for that, at least the last ten years of not being focused is now, focused, so that's good to hear.
LectureMaster
Gold Member
They never meant to release the game 2025, the whole thing remains as a scam.
www.neogaf.com
Cringe - Event - Star Citizen demo crashes Live on stage during presentation
Clip Below: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxlRWP7thH0T3xWcnmyFp-4kxfCuO6BhXe?si=L14k88Ap69j2_Cez They also confirmed Single Player Mode for 2026
nemiroff
Gold Member
Yes, it's been a turbulent project with many years of little real progress for those who were meant to play it.
Which is why I just ignored the project almost completely after I pledged my 35 dollars back in 2012. I didn't really give a shit, it was just a beer and a burger's worth anyway.
Only regained my interest lately when valuable progress finally started happening.
In between the bugs and the missing pieces there are some glimpses of magic in this game. It's a shame that the process and the entry barriers has thrown people off.
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YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Look I have fond memories of Wing Commander but this was clearly a washed up has been game dev coming out of retirement for one more cashgrab. Many such cases.
nemiroff
Gold Member
No need, they never left.
The game raked in 114 million dollars in 2024, just shy of the 116 million in 2023.
I understand the joke, it's funny, but the story has obviously little to do with funding issues.
So then I guess you'll be happy to know that Roberts has long been more or less stepping aside for others to steer this project in the right direction. It's one of the reasons the project is on track right now. Wait, you didn't just assume this story was about the game not doing well did you..? Please don't be gullible.
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drganon
Member
The story is quite a bit more nuanced than that. Remember, they achieved their second-highest funding year ever in 2024 (only shy by a single digit from the previous record). So this story seems to be driven by wishful thinking, almost like a dose of copium for the critics
It's been talked about a lot: There's a new generation of directors taking over, with new development philosophy. Which is also one of the important reasons why the development has been gaining ground and speed in 2024 more than before.
Stockholm syndrome.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
They never meant to release the game 2025, the whole thing remains as a scam.
Cringe - Event - Star Citizen demo crashes Live on stage during presentation
Clip Below: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxlRWP7thH0T3xWcnmyFp-4kxfCuO6BhXe?si=L14k88Ap69j2_Cez They also confirmed Single Player Mode for 2026
Duh? 2026 at the end
How many devs have you see making a live stage demo of their games years before release? You probably have to go back to early 2000’s live E3 demos.
Even shipped games fuck up, even Sony or biggest AAA. Imagine how they look a year or more before.
Dog piling on a dev having still the balls to do it live ain’t as based as you think it is
FunkMiller
Member
The class action lawsuit on this is going to be one for the ages.
nemiroff
Gold Member
^ I'm sorry brother, I can understand the need to lash out when a videogame you don't like lives rent free in your head. Best wishes
Agreed. The management structure is better now.
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Ribi
Member
Old and normal
Oh no the studio is restructuring and firing people to increase efficiency and money because said jobs aren't needed anymore! Well the studio of 600+ must be failing, quick Derek Smart was right! The studio has failed, it only took 10 years to prove it was a scam let's all have a toast and stroke each other's cock repeating how right we are.
Wait what do you mean I can play the game now that doesn't fit the scam narrative
Yet you're here. Also this fucking site has been click bait articles for SC for months always propping up some mundane ass story and making it seem like the sky is falling.
Oh no the studio is restructuring and firing people to increase efficiency and money because said jobs aren't needed anymore! Well the studio of 600+ must be failing, quick Derek Smart was right! The studio has failed, it only took 10 years to prove it was a scam let's all have a toast and stroke each other's cock repeating how right we are.
Wait what do you mean I can play the game now that doesn't fit the scam narrative
nemiroff
Gold Member
Yeah, pretty much.Old and normal
Yet you're here. Also this fucking site has been click bait articles for SC for months always propping up some mundane ass story and making it seem like the sky is falling.
Oh no the studio is restructuring and firing people to increase efficiency and money because said jobs aren't needed anymore! Well the studio of 600+ must be failing, quick Derek Smart was right! The studio has failed, it only took 10 years to prove it was a scam let's all have a toast and stroke each other's cock repeating how right we are.
Wait what do you mean I can play the game now that doesn't fit the scam narrative
I have to admit, Draugoth shoehorning the word "suffers" into the title is funny AF. It doesn't make any sense in the context of the story (if you had followed the development news, you'd know why). Clickbait is one hell of a drug.
For perspective, consider this: The company employs well over 1,000 people, yet the story mentions 3 executives being laid off (for the better I'd say). And CIG just pulled in 114 million dollars (114 in 2024, 116 in 2023) in funding. What a fail
Anyway, for those who want to hook up in the game, feel free (I'm more like a solo-player, but I won't say no to some good ol' co-op fun later in the cycle):
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Hudo
Member
Chris Roberts really needs a producer who can overturn him and say, "Ok, we'll do a feature freeze here and focus on polishing what we've got and get the game out. You can add additional features in subsequent expansion packs or something."
Microsoft had to come in and save Freelancer from Roberts back then as well.
Microsoft had to come in and save Freelancer from Roberts back then as well.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Putting the pitchforks aside for the moment: how is 4.0? Was it the turning point everyone was hoping it would be? Last time I fired up Star Citizen was mid last year.
Edit: nvm answered my own question. This is a great summary warts and all for 4.0:
Edit: nvm answered my own question. This is a great summary warts and all for 4.0:
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ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
2012? Wow, you really earned that citizenship.Yeah, pretty much.
I have to admit, Draugoth shoehorning the word "suffers" into the title is funny AF. It doesn't make any sense in the context of the story (if you had followed the development news, you'd know why). Clickbait is one hell of a drug.
For perspective, consider this: The company employs well over 1,000 people, yet the story mentions 3 executives being laid off (for the better I'd say). And CIG just pulled in 114 million dollars (114 in 2024, 116 in 2023) in funding. What a fail
Anyway, for those who want to hook up in the game, feel free (I'm more like a solo-player, but I won't say no to some good ol' co-op fun later in the cycle):
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Seems weird anyone would leave. It seems like a cushy job. Do about 15 minutes of actual work per day and make lots of money from fools.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Roberts stepping aside but still cashing the checks... All those gamers financing his upper middle class California lifestyle for 10 years. Hope it's worth it.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Well, it is his company after all, and has grown it from a few people in the early days to over 1,100 employees in 2023. It would be weird if he couldn't cash a few checks. He has been failing for a long time to realize his dream space game (I mean, after his string of classics), but CIG is still a very successful company. And they're finally on a roll to make an actual game now. "Financing" his supposedly lavish lifestyle...? Idk.. I gave have him my 35 dollars back in 2012 and have gotten a lot more out of my 35 dollars for SC in gameplay than, let's say, my 100+ dollars "investment" in Diablo 4
I guess. But I'm kinda like a sleeper agent in this operation. I didn't engage until I was summoned by hearing about enjoyable gameplay loops at around v3.22/3.23, just about a year or so ago. There was little in it for me before that.
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Gojiira
Member
Scam. Decade long dev, with a average Beta released. Its a scam.Old and normal
Yet you're here. Also this fucking site has been click bait articles for SC for months always propping up some mundane ass story and making it seem like the sky is falling.
Oh no the studio is restructuring and firing people to increase efficiency and money because said jobs aren't needed anymore! Well the studio of 600+ must be failing, quick Derek Smart was right! The studio has failed, it only took 10 years to prove it was a scam let's all have a toast and stroke each other's cock repeating how right we are.
Wait what do you mean I can play the game now that doesn't fit the scam narrative
Ribi
Member
So fortnite ... You realize how long that was in development and how much it made in beta right? Most people forget it didn't actually officially release for a long while even after it became a BR.
What about GTA pretty sure GTA 6 is going on a decade long dev cycle. Or is Rockstar applauded for horse ball shrinkage and that's totally not feature creep
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Scam has been running for so long it already paid for the retirement of a few executives.
To the new generation of scammers!
To the new generation of scammers!
TVexperto
Member
Also their families! His brother, his wife are all on the board, she never studied marketing but somehow is director of marketing lmao
Ribi
Member
Can you really complain when the game draws in 100mil a year. Clearly they know a thing or two about marketing.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Scientology brings in a lot of money each year.Old and normal
Yet you're here. Also this fucking site has been click bait articles for SC for months always propping up some mundane ass story and making it seem like the sky is falling.
Oh no the studio is restructuring and firing people to increase efficiency and money because said jobs aren't needed anymore! Well the studio of 600+ must be failing, quick Derek Smart was right! The studio has failed, it only took 10 years to prove it was a scam let's all have a toast and stroke each other's cock repeating how right we are.
Wait what do you mean I can play the game now that doesn't fit the scam narrative
Star Citizen is closer to that than a marketing scam.
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Ribi
Member
You can't play scientology. You just sit there and have Tom Cruz bark at you meanwhile here you actually have fun playing the game
Gojiira
Member
Lmao difference is GTA games are good. As for horse nuts shrinking, that was RDR2 one of the best games ever made. Completely uncomparable.
As for Fortnite, also incomparable, it released into Beta and kept adding to it, they didn’t fleece fans out of millions then barely release a ‘game’.
diffusionx
Gold Member
RDR2 was also a fully packaged game, sold to people, complete on day one. They weren't asking money from simps for a decade.
Ribi
Member
Well, Star Citizen and scams are not incomparable and or uncomparable too.