thatJohann
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List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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thatJohann
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The hell is BMW?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Black myth wukong
viveks86
Member
Probably deformation
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Nothing regarding a further patch for Silent Hill 2, right? Still holding out hope somehow.
Shaki12345
Member
This is why I don't buy games on release but wait at least 6 months to a year. Better for the wallet and always a better experience.
Why pay to be a beta tester?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Maybe best bet is to play disc version 1.0 in quality mode ?
Sleepwalker
Member
How do KCD2, silent hill 2 and rebirth(+remake) perform on the pro?
FrankWza
Member
I would get blackout curtains before I got a lesser tv. I know it's not doable for everyone but it's necessary if you are anywhere inside the enthusiasts spending of time or money. Having a dedicated or high end space for games or movies in a bright setting makes zero sense
Cr1ptkeeper
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No idea about KCD2 but rebirth runs well the first couple of hours I played. Be prepared though for lots of pop-in and the usual PSSR jaggies at even surfaces like metal bars.
I only played the first hour of SH2 on performance mode as I'm hoping for another patch. In it's current state expect frequent FPS drops on performance mode (at least in the first hour). Also unstable image in both performance and quality mode.
diffusionx
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it's a car company
Physiognomonics
Member
Yes I already saw another analysis showing how good PSSR vas in motion compared to the shit that was before. The guy was really impressed.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Cerny covered this, the amount of stuff you can get out of just 5 frames is staggering.
It's why the resolution plus additional effects are sacrificed to get a high framerate.
Building your game around 60fps is a way to do it, but a lot of sacrifices are still made even then.
You'll be hard pressed to convince a developer otherwise especially on consoles to budge on their vision, if they think 60fps is must they do it.
I'm sure Kojima could of done MGS3 at 60fps on PS2.
But that would have hindered what he wanted to achieve.
So 60fps went to the chopping board.
TerribleAtThisGame
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I already beat it twice but was considering a Pro for yet another playthrough as my main selling point. I just really fucking like that game. Not saying I'd buy it FOR that but yea...SH2 not having trailing shit everywhere and proper lighting at 60fps would be the push I'd need. That's why I keep checking in
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
in that case, unfortunately ps5 pro version sucks. We have to wait....I already beat it twice but was considering a Pro for yet another playthrough as my main selling point. I just really fucking like that game. Not saying I'd buy it FOR that but yea...SH2 not having trailing shit everywhere and proper lighting at 60fps would be the push I'd need. That's why I keep checking in
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I want a crying emoji reaction for shit like this lol
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Do not let this deter you. The PS5 Pro version does not suck, unless you think the base game sucks worse.
The PS5 Pro version runs better. Has a higher average resolution and framerate.
If you want to play SH2, go play SH2. It's a great game, looks great on PRO even if it's not really optimized for it well. The only part in the game that has issues is the first 2 minutes with some shimmering on puddles. That's literally it. It's not a big deal.
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thatJohann
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Does it look better on quality or performance mode on the Pro?
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
I was pretty sensitive to 30 fps for this game, for some reason. It looked juddery.
I chose Performance mode. I don't think the quality mode looks that much better. There's one indoor area in a cafe with a stark difference, but I tried out multiple areas that all looked about the same.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
For me still better on quality but the difference between modes is smaller now
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dok1or
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Where is Silent Hill 2 PRO fix? Not talking about performance mod; Quality mod? Zero, nada.... Fuck you Bloober, FUCK YOU!!! I got game on release date, supported and they are fucking morons that cant or wont fix PSSR shimering!
I really hope that their next game is complete garbage!
I really hope that their next game is complete garbage!
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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I disagree there the overall "improvements" are barely noticeable to where i find myself questioning if it looks worse now. Also, how come nobody is talking about Dragons Dogma 2 and how it should be called Dragons Dogshit 2 on Pro? This game is up there with Silent "Nill" 2 Pro patch, when it comes to image quality taking a hit for the worse. Was one of the most beautiful games before, albeit at a worse framerate, but at least it looked clean and gprgeous. Now it shares the same ugly PSSR foliage artifacting that Jedi Survivor suffered from on Pro, prior to that games most recent patch. The problem is since nobody is complaining and seemingly even noticing the IQ issues, Capcom is never going to fix it.
Black Myth's patch the other day did nothing to improve the visuals on Pro as well. I can't be the only person disappointed with only getting Balanced mode at 40 fps with PSSR on Pro. Yes, PSSR did improve the iq quite a bit but damn it shows how weak the Pro is to not be able to do Balanced at 60 fps and Quality at 40 fps. Like Space Marine 2 there are considerable graphical differences between modes.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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They are a trash developer. How freakin lazy and disdainful do you have to be to know you released a broken update then only bother to fix one mode while ignoring the other. This reminds me of the Hitman 3 developers, IO interactive, who released a broken HDR in that game and despite fans asking for literally years, just never bothered to fix it. The reason it was such BS is that both Hitman 1 and 2 had great HDR so there was ZERO good reason for them to not fix it. This is on consoles btw, PC players were able to use Windows or something to get it.
This is what im so fed up with when it comes to console gaming and why I'm about to buy my friends rig (3080ti with whatever was considered top of the line 3 years ago). No more being at the total mercy of uncaring developers and publishers. RDR2 at ultra 60 fps, Cyberpunk with some actual great RTgi and reflections. Control with rtgi at 60 fps. Mods to fix the shit these companies won't do etc
James Sawyer Ford
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Your takes continue to be off base. The Hogwarts improvements are NOT barely noticeable. Dragon's Dogma 2 has significantly increased performance on the Pro, it doesn't look like doghshit.
Silent Hill 2 did NOT take a hit for the worse, it runs at a higher average resolution and has a higher framerate.
Black Myth already had a significant Pro patch, why are we expecting devs with limited resources for games already released to have a Pro update every single release?
You think PC GAMING of all places is going to address the woes of poor developer releases and issues? No, it just magnifies them.
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Guardian Monkey
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Let me get this straight. You think that spending thousands of dollars on a high-end gaming PC, tweaking settings for hours, and dealing with driver updates is somehow better than just turning on a console and playing? And you’re choosing to ignore compilation stutter, shader caching, and random compatibility issues?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Honestly I would need to play more of those games. I only noticed how well dd2 runs and how all the temporal pixelation is gone. There are other issues for sure but I’ve not played long enough.
Hogwarts for me is just better AA in balanced mode. That’s the mode I play. But again Inwould need to play more.
Black myth I finished the whole game in 40fps mode on pro and it was looking amazing. But I’ve not played it on base
MazingerDUDE
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I played Dragon's Dogma 2 in balanced mode with RT off for about 400+ hours. The game provided mostly excellent 4K image with steady 60fps especially with VRR supported TV. DD2 is one of better PRO enhanced game because 1. it provides significantly higher IQ compared to the base PS5, 2. it provides better performance even in its balanced mode at a cost of some minor artifacts which I can live with. My only wish is that they'd fix the RT artifacts one day so I can go for a 5th run with RT turned on
As for Wukong, the game runs at 45% higher native res with the final output resolution being more than double (1440p vs 2160p) of the base PS5 providing one of the sharpest 4K image on console, PSSR also gets rid of that horrible FSR fizzle artifacts the game now looks much cleaner in motion. So the PRO version is basically doing more than double of the base PS5 in both quality and balanced (double the res, and the better iq in general) maybe you're expecting too much for a hardware that only costs 40% more.
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Ive said this before, but people should really play dragons dogma 2 before parroting the same talking points that digital foundry say.
It looks so much better on ps5 pro than on standard except the bits you keep going on about, which you wouldn't of noticed unless pointed out to you.
Overall image quality is superior and it plays so much better.
I read your posts and all you've done is bash the pro. Speaking the the same shite all the time, repeating digital foundry talking points.
If you're not happy with the pro sell it (I don't believe you own one by the way) I just think you're trolling.
I normally bite lip but just thought I'd put this out there.
I think he's already a pc gamer, and is cosplaying as a disgruntled ps5 pro gamer.
Notice how all his criticism are digital foundry talking points, nothing to add of his own.
I think he's just trying to remind us pesky console gamers that we're still inferior.
Its best just ignore him
Feel Like I'm On 42
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The absolute irony of you saying that I have bad takes...where do I even begin? First of all you are the biggest fanboy/shill for Sony and the Pro, consistently, throughout this thread. Every time someone points out a bad patch there you are trying to damage control and even going as far as to spread blatant misinformation. Just a few posts back you were spreading that bullshit about Silent Hill 2 being "just fine and it's shimmering only relegated to the first 2 minutes of the intro" which I've seen you say countless times now, when everyone with half an ounce of awareness of the game both pre and post patch knows that's not true. Keep trying to act like I'm wrong, your only fooling yourself. Of course you will think you're right because I'm generally outnumbered here but that doesn't actually mean you're right.
Did you even play SH2 before the Pro patch? I dont think you did. You defend everything about the Pro from the price to the lack of patches for first party games to the patches themselves being such small upgrades and even to the developers that are too lazy to patch their games. Literally everything you aggressively defend about this console.
Dragons Dogma 2? Yeah, it has significantly improved PERFORMANCE on Pro but THATS NOT WHAT I SAID NOW IS IT? It has significantly worse IQ now buddy! You wouldn't know that though even though it was briefly mentioned in DFs analysis, because they largely focused on the framerate improvements and NOT the image quality and broken pssr implementation. This games previews dropping during the hype cycle and honeymoon period for Pro allowed it to skate by with an influencer consensus as "great patch" when it's anything but. It has nasty artifacting that didn't exist on base PS5 on foliage and shadows. How can you not see these issues?? You can't just take one improvement and declare something a good patch. That's what you guys always do though.
Do you even bother to read my comments fully? If you could be honest with yourself and truly keep an open mind, actually ANALYZE these games in proper context and NOT JUST CHERRY PICK the positives that suit your stance you would see that I'm not wrong.
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dok1or
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SH2 is complete garbage with quality option on PRO! Garbage.
In hospital around lights shimmering is terrible.
I payed 70 euros and I wont play it on PRO with that terrible PSSR artefacts. I will not play on performance mode! It looks like shit on performance and I got PRO for bette experience.
Give me option to turn off PSSR like AW2!
Incompetent asshoels in Bloober
In hospital around lights shimmering is terrible.
I payed 70 euros and I wont play it on PRO with that terrible PSSR artefacts. I will not play on performance mode! It looks like shit on performance and I got PRO for bette experience.
Give me option to turn off PSSR like AW2!
Incompetent asshoels in Bloober
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MazingerDUDE
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not true at all
The IQ is significantly sharper on pro with more details, the base PS5 has really low cascade shadow maps which is really distracting with lots of flickering. The only real down side on PRO is flickerings on low ambient light with RT turned off, but those are few and far between. Overall, the IQ gain on pro far outweights any possible added artifacts. This one's really a ff7 rebirth level of IQ difference because in reality, it's the balanced on pro vs the performance on base ps5, because even the balanced mode provides much better framerate than the performance mode on base ps5.
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MazingerDUDE
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These shots were all taken from the balanced mode with RT off on pro, as you can see the image quality is excellent, and it's just amazing that the native resolution is only 1080p. This game just runs like a dream on pro.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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Im talking about the Pro with RTGI ...it's worse! Way worse. You guys are talking about performance mode
not true at all
The IQ is significantly sharper on pro with more details, the base PS5 has really low cascade shadow maps which is really distracting with lots of flickering. The only real down side on PRO is flickerings on low ambient light with RT turned off, but those are few and far between. Overall, the IQ gain on pro far outweights any possible added artifacts. This one's really a ff7 rebirth level of IQ difference because in reality, it's the balanced on pro vs the performance on base ps5, because even the balanced mode provides much better framerate than the performance mode on base ps5.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
And you are a fucking idiot to assume that. Proof you guys just want to believe what you want to even if it has no bearing in reality.
I dont own a PC. Have never owned one. How many times do I have to say how much I was hoping the Pro would deliver being that I own a huge library of games on PS5?! This is fanboy logic 101 you're resorting to. You can't comprehend someone owning a system and being pissed about the product so its always "you must be on the other side". It's the dumbest and most biased way of thinking and is 100% coming from fanboys every single time. If you only knew how big my ps5/pro library is. How can i prove it to you without your immature asses spamming my psn id? I've literally bought and played almost every single Pro enhanced AAA game, hence my disappointment.
You guys are clowns who will always resort to accusing people of having some ulterior motive. Fanboys, shills, whatever you want to call it you're the plague of console gaming. Always have been and always will be, sadly. I can't wait to switch to PC though I'll admit that. You guys literally insure console gaming will always be second class in the eyes of these developers. They always have a group of no standard, ass clown defenders no matter how low effort their patches are.
Say what you will you know deep down I'm right.
Yeah sure.
I couldn't give a flying fuck where you play games you bellend.
I can see through your shit, you don't fool anyone.
Like I say best ignore you from now on
Bojji
Member
In the case of SH2 there could be image artifacts related to PSSR and ones related to Lumen and denoiser. Game is unstable on all platforms but from what we have seen from comparisons it's worse with PSSR.
Why they just didn't switch it back to TSR is beyond me (or at least update PSSR, maybe it works better in newer version like in JS).
MazingerDUDE
Member
way worse how? the IQ is noticeably sharper even on the graphics mode
and nothing on pro is as disturbing as ghosting on base ps5
I wonder if you have ever actually played this game on pro
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
This thread unfortunately has a few rotations and they often have little to do with the topic, but we usually end up back with someone telling us how much they hate their purchase. I get why people have grown tired of it.
But, the best piece of advice is to ignore said people (usually just a few) and hope that a new game can be added to the list so there's something else to talk about.
Bojji
Member
way worse how? the IQ is noticeably sharper even on the graphics mode
and nothing on pro is as disturbing as ghosting on base ps5
I wonder if you have ever actually played this game on pro
He is talking about RTGI artifacts with PSSR:
MazingerDUDE
Member
I don't think some brief artifacts on doorway would make the entire graphics of DD2 on pro 'way worse' than base ps5
Bojji
Member
I don't think some brief artifacts on doorway would make the entire graphics of DD2 on pro 'way worse' than base ps5
It's more than that (timestamped):
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MazingerDUDE
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Giallo Corsa
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I strongly disagree.
He, I or whoever spent 800 Eurodollars on something has a right to express his/her dissatisfaction just like you or someone else has a right to express his/her satisfaction - unless of course topics like these are only meant as a huge circle jerk.
Listen, I get what you're saying but I also see what FeelsLike42 is also saying and you know what ? He's not wrong - especially about the supposed "if you're not with us you're against us" tired shit.
This is Reddit behaviour and I personally find it to be inexcusable since we're supposed to be better/more tolerant in here when it comes to differing opinions.
It was the same exact shit when people tried to talk about the PS portal's 59.96Hz stutter - every time it would have been brought up they'd be met with the same type of ridicule in the form of "lol it must be your router", "lol, it's your McDonald's internet !", "sucks to be you, I don't have a problem whatsoever", "lol you guys are imagining things", "lol, you're a MS shill" etc etc - heck, I've been literally told by 1 guy in here to fuck off not once but 3 times a couple of months back and that I had "nefarious" reasons for bringing it up by another one telling me that the reddit guy that brought up the problem to begin with was full of shit and wrong, meanwhile. Sony DID fix the stutter so guess what, it was a real, existing thing.
There just no discussion to be had whatsoever...
At the very least, FeelsLike42 is a genuine guy, he's never trolled, he's never made hit n run posts, he's always polite etc etc, guy bought a product (like all of us) and he's being critical when it comes to its performance - why is that such a bad thing ? 'Cause he's repeating himself ? EVERYONE is repeating the same shit in here with the constant circle jerk and comparison pics/gif spamming ffs and yet, you people have a problem only with him ? C'mon man, you're better than this...
Meanwhile, AW2 still looks like shit, BM Wukong only looks better in its 40fps mode (40fps, in an action game, yeahhh), Heavy hitters like FF16 aren't even patched, Silent hill 2 looks...not good 3 months after its latest patch and the list goes on - are we not supposed to talk about these things ? If not, why ?
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
The issue isn't expressing dissatisfaction, it is doing it every fuckin' chance you get! That's the problem. We got it the first 10 times. Besides, the thread is about the List of Pro Enhanced games, not how you feel about the system. Every few days, it gets hijacked to talk about feeling "ripped off". We already heard about the games that don't work as well (yes, all of the ones you mentioned, plenty of times). No one is "unaware" of them by now.
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TehGoomba7s
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You absolutely have the right to state your opinion and have it. Doesn't mean it's right or people have to agree with it. When there is very clear proof of titles being better, you are shocked that people will call out the same few people try to say otherwise? Because that's what will happen.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Right, thing is, he still has the right to express himself just like all the other guys LITERALLY spamming comparison pics/gifs - do you also have a problem with them ?
It goes both ways Goomba, doesn't mean that I - or whoever else - has to also agree with the circle jerk, pic spamming or deferring opinions.