Publisher # of units # of games
Nintendo 15,456,450 49
Square Enix 8,641,508 34
Namco Bandai Games 7,099,989 78
Nintendo/Pokemon Co. 4,671,440 9
Konami 4,642,387 53
Capcom 4,446,507 35
SEGA 3,048,887 30
Level 5 2,408,341 10
SCEI 1,761,038 24
Koei 1,578,720 19
Hudson 995,600 14
Atlus Co. 650,197 7
Marvelous 465,898 9
All Others 4,419,794 129
System # of units # of games
NDS 26,366,195 178
WII 12,996,230 70
PSP 9,059,275 109
PS3 7,761,352 63
PS2 2,764,000 49
360 1,314,899 30
GBA 24,805 1
First-Party
System # of units # of games
NDS 11,166,043 33
WII 8,937,042 24
PS3 913,630 12
PSP 847,408 12
360 240,160 7
GBA 24,805 1
PS2 0 0
Third-Party
System # of units # of games
NDS 15,181,842 144
PSP 8,211,867 97
PS3 6,866,032 52
WII 4,059,188 46
PS2 2,764,000 49
360 1,074,739 23
GBA 0 0
Kinda funny to see Level 5 in that list :lolPublisher # of units # of games
Nintendo 15,456,450 49
Square Enix 8,641,508 34
Namco Bandai Games 7,099,989 78
Nintendo/Pokemon Co. 4,671,440 9
Konami 4,642,387 53
Capcom 4,446,507 35
SEGA 3,048,887 30
Level 5 2,408,341 10
SCEI 1,761,038 24
Koei 1,578,720 19
Hudson 995,600 14
Atlus Co. 650,197 7
Marvelous 465,898 9
timetokill said:FF13 and Monster Hunter broke a million... what else this generation has broken a million that isn't on a Nintendo platform?
AniHawk said:And this is the last time we'll see a GBA game.
cvxfreak said:The only other non-Nintendo platform million sellers I can envision that aren't Final Fantasy or Monster Hunter are Biohazard 5's various versions, and perhaps Peace Walker if it has good legs.
[GBA] Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon)24,805 / 1,908,780
57 [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) 200,978 / 5,150,572
duckroll said:GT5 bomba? Or are we only counting third party?
cvxfreak said:It's possible, but I don't think that one is set in stone. GT4 sold 1,066,749, and only a few PS3 franchises have met their PS2 predecessors' sales. I'll have to see the hype machine that SCE builds for the game closer to release.
I like how Nintendo manages to be 2 of the top 10 publishers :loltimetokill said:Wow, Nintendo really dominates...
8 of the top 10, and 18 of the top 25 are on Nintendo platforms
6 of the top 10 are Nintendo games...
WTF? The last time I looked at Wild World numbers, it was at 3 millions :lolmutsu said:Wow, this ended up at 5 million? Amazing.
I wonder if Friends Collection will end up at Animal Crossing level...
duckroll said:Wow, you must be the only person on GAF who agrees with me what GT5 might not sell a million copies in Japan! :lol
grandjedi6 said:I like how Nintendo manages to be 2 of the top 10 publishers :lol
grandjedi6 said:I like how Nintendo manages to be 2 of the top 10 publishers :lol
cvxfreak said:If there were a "Nintendo/Super Mario Bros. Company" distinction, then Nintendo would still be #1, Mario Co. would be #4 and Pokemon would be #5. Nintendo would occupy 3 of the top 5. (Mario games = 5,279,859 units in 2009)
cvxfreak said:If there were a "Nintendo/Super Mario Bros. Company" distinction, then Nintendo would still be #1, Mario Co. would be #4 and Pokemon would be #5. Nintendo would occupy 3 of the top 5. (Mario games = 5,279,859 units in 2009)
cvxfreak said:Hah. The way I see it, as far as Japan is concerned, the first-third party distinction is becoming meaningless for the PSP, PS3 and 360. SCE may have built a name for itself in the PS1 that carried on into the PS2 era, but those days are long over and their franchises have shown to suffer big drops that we have few reasons to believe can be reversed. SCE is not a developer or publisher that can be placed on any special pedestal anymore. Expect a marketing blitz, some events, a few bundles and SKUs for GT5, but this is so par for the course as far as big games go. I think something like 700-800K is reasonable to predict. And then from there they can release a budget version and maybe cross the line. :lol
bttb said:205 [NDS] Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo) 57,012 / 4,991,999
First-Party
System # of units # of games
NDS 11,166,043 33
WII 8,937,042 24
PS3 913,630 12
PSP 847,408 12
360 240,160 7
GBA 24,805 1
Third-Party
System # of units # of games
NDS 15,102,892 144
PSP 8,309,127 98
PS3 6,847,722 51
WII 4,059,188 46
PS2 2,764,000 49
360 1,074,739 23
GBA 0 0
Third parties completely messed up, but that's old news by now.PSGames said:Wow.
cvxfreak said:If there were a "Nintendo/Super Mario Bros. Company" distinction, then Nintendo would still be #1, Mario Co. would be #4 and Pokemon would be #5. Nintendo would occupy 3 of the top 5. (Mario games = 5,279,859 units in 2009)
FRANCHISE TOTAL SKUs PUBLISHER
1 Mario 5,279,859 13 Nintendo
2 Pokemon 4,671,440 9 Nintendo
3 Dragon Quest 4,312,632 7 Square-Enix
4 Final Fantasy 2,743,752 11 Square-Enix
5 Monster Hunter 2,155,879 5 Capcom
6 Wii Fit 1,933,326 2 Nintendo
7 Wii Sports 1,897,192 2 Nintendo
8 Gundam 1,598,005 12 Bandai Namco
9 Winning Eleven 1,409,225 9 Konami
10 Musou 1,276,161 8 Koei
11 Tales 1,218,211 7 Bandai Namco
12 Inazuma Eleven 1,149,041 3 Level 5
13 TaikonoTatsujin 919,607 5 Bandai Namco
14 Prof. Layton 918,580 4 Level 5
15 Resident Evil 801,860 7 Capcom
16 Yakuza 766,660 5 Sega
17 Phantasy Star 642,241 3 Sega
Certainly not as a publisher of quality games. SCE still does well in that area, even though more and more of their hits are non-Japanese games like GoW or Heavy Rain. That said, there are many high quality developers and publishers these days, so it's not like SCE is much of a standout in that regard, either.Acosta said:Do you say that on a pure sales performance sense or in a general way?
About GT5, I think they can reach one million with a big marketing push. I feel that way because there has been a long waiting for it, and I feel there could be some accumulated hype and curiosity from traditional userbase. A-spec and GT 4 had barely three years and half of difference and maybe the whole userbase were not motivated to jump in.
Not sure, I may be biased, I feel sympathy for troubled projects that get delayed once and again.
Edit: Thanks for the list bttb.
cvxfreak said:Certainly not as a publisher of quality games. SCE still does well in that area, even though more and more of their hits are non-Japanese games like GoW or Heavy Rain. That said, there are many high quality developers and publishers these days, so it's not like SCE is much of a standout in that regard, either.
I'm referring more to sales performance, yes. In Japan, only Nintendo stands out as a first party. To even mention SCE as a first party in the same breadth as Nintendo is totally misleading and such expectations will only inflate expectations for games like GT5 and as we saw back in 2008, LBP.
timetokill said:FF13 and Monster Hunter broke a million... what else this generation has broken a million that isn't on a Nintendo platform?
cvxfreak said:Certainly not as a publisher of quality games. SCE still does well in that area, even though more and more of their hits are non-Japanese games like GoW or Heavy Rain. That said, there are many high quality developers and publishers these days, so it's not like SCE is much of a standout in that regard, either.
I'm referring more to sales performance, yes. In Japan, only Nintendo stands out as a first party. To even mention SCE as a first party in the same breadth as Nintendo is totally misleading and such expectations will only inflate expectations for games like GT5 and as we saw back in 2008, LBP.
Skiptastic said:Interesting statistics.
Out of curiosity, why did it take nearly four months to throw this together?
Okami is a budget game on the PS2 (and Wii, but less so). Budget games have huge legs. The PS2 version had the whole year to sell barely 1K more than the Wii version.nincompoop said:The Wii port of Okami sold fewer copies than the PS2 version sold in 2009? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
152 [WII] Deca Sports 2 (Hudson) 75,599
Pretty good "PS3 the Best" sales, almost on top except for Mingol. The total should be around 250k now.126 [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles [PlayStation 3 the Best] (Sega) 95,797
Aww, 3k short of being the best selling Atelier title since 2001. Still very nice.150 [PS3] Atelier Rorona (Gust) 77,404
duckroll said:Wow, you must be the only person on GAF who agrees with me what GT5 might not sell a million copies in Japan! :lol
duckroll said:Wow, you must be the only person on GAF who agrees with me what GT5 might not sell a million copies in Japan! :lol
cvxfreak said:Hah. The way I see it, as far as Japan is concerned, the first-third party distinction is becoming meaningless for the PSP, PS3 and 360. SCE may have built a name for itself in the PS1 that carried on into the PS2 era, but those days are long over and their franchises have shown to suffer big drops that we have few reasons to believe can be reversed. SCE is not a developer or publisher that can be placed on any special pedestal anymore. Expect a marketing blitz, some events, a few bundles and SKUs for GT5, but this is so par for the course as far as big games go. I think something like 700-800K is reasonable to predict. And then from there they can release a budget version and maybe cross the line. :lol