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[Trurl]

I think its pretty much a given at this point.

Other than the NES, no console has been lucky enough to have more than one great Mario Bros. game.

 

[Razoric]

Other than the NES, no console has been lucky enough to have more than one great Mario Bros. game.

Super Mario World
Yoshi's Island

 

[Magicpaint]

Other than the NES, no console has been lucky enough to have more than one great Mario Bros. game.

But only the NES had Mario Bros games.

 

[jj984jj]

I hope EAD plans on releasing another Super Mario Bros. game for the DS.

I hope New Super Mario Bros. 2 is as hard as Super Mario Bros. 2.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I think its pretty much a given at this point.

Ehh. Massive Nintendo successes getting a sequel on the same console is the exception rather than the rule, past 1990.

 

[JonathanEx]

PacSales for UNCONFIRMED sales for... the next thread.

 

[Angels of a Wing]

PacSales for UNCONFIRMED sales for... the next thread.

lol Ds light is Pac-man gobbling the rest of the current game systems. Brillant picture!

 

[Oblivion]

Super Mario World
Yoshi's Island

Damn it. How many times must we go through this? Yoshi's Island was called Super Mario World 2 because of NoA's marketing, to give it a bigger push.

So, although a good game, I don't think it should be counted as a Mario platformer.

 

[Oblivion]

I think its pretty much a given at this point.

As I've said before, like with SSB DS, NSMB2's existence will depend on how the PSP fares.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Damn it. How many times must we go through this? Yoshi's Island was called Super Mario World 2 because of NoA's marketing, to give it a bigger push.

So, although a good game, I don't think it should be counted as a Mario platformer.

Even in Japan the game was called "Super Mario: Yoshi's Island" and it has been included in the Super Mario Advance series. I agree that it doesn't really count as a Mario platformer, yet due to those facts it's still in a way a platformer... that is Mario.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I hope EAD puts Miyamoto and Tezuka on New Super Mario Bros. 2 and makes it totally awesome - co-op mode, vs. mode, original minigames, new power ups (that are also better than the highly lame Blue Shell, Mini Mushroom and Mega Mushroom), online play, create-a-level (kind of like MvDK2), have TOSE do bosses and make it the most nonlinear Mario game out there (either with a world map like SMB3/SMW or have a hub like SMS).

 

[Trurl]

Ehh. Massive Nintendo successes getting a sequel on the same console is the exception rather than the rule, past 1990.

Yeah, it seems that Zelda is the only exception.

 

[Magicpaint]

Yeah, it seems that Zelda is the only exception.

And Metroid, we got two of em on both the GC and GBA. I think why I'm sure of a sequel is because this one is doing so incredibly well + competition.

 

[Oblivion]

Even in Japan the game was called "Super Mario: Yoshi's Island"

Was it, really?

 

[Calimero]

Was it, really?

Oh, yes.

 

[loosus]

If they make "New Super Mario Bros. 2," I hope it goes nuts like Super Mario Bros. 2 (the US version) did, with weird shit like guys running around with masks; a multisexual, egg-shooting dinosaur dragon thing; bird heads that eat you to lead you to other worlds; and the ability to actually pick things up -- something new to the Super Mario Bros. series at the time. Basically, they need to make a platform game that's nothing like a traditional Mario game (even going so far as to not have Mario in it from its inception), and then just sticking the Mario character in it at the last minute and adding a few Mario-like additions.

 

[Scotch]

I hope New Super Mario Bros. 2 is as hard as Super Mario Bros. 2.

I hope they won't call it New Super Mario Bros. 2.

 

[Aft Dread Pressure]

I hope they won't call it New Super Mario Bros. 2.

I'd take that over Newer Super Mario Bros though.

 

[Fuzzy]

I hope they won't call it New Super Mario Bros. 2.

"Newer Super Mario Bros" it is then.


EDIT: Beaten. :lol

 

[yayaba]

I hope they won't call it New Super Mario Bros. 2.

That's like calling the second Batman Begins "Batman Begins Again".

 

[jarrod]

While it had elements from later games in the series, New Super Mario Bros really felt like a design throwback to SMB1 in terms of structure, control and physics... I wouldn't mind if a potential "New Super Mario Bros 2" followed the same pattern, giving us a real followup to Doki Doki/Mario USA.

 

[Oblivion]

While it had elements from later games in the series, New Super Mario Bros really felt like a design throwback to SMB1 in terms of structure, control and physics... I wouldn't mind if a potential "New Super Mario Bros 2" followed the same pattern, giving us a real followup to Doki Doki/Mario USA.

I agree, actually. I would like it if Nintendo sorta retread what they've done with the past 4 Super Mario Platformers. NSMB= SMB, NSMB2 = SM2, etc.

 

[Kroole]

I wouldn't mind if a potential "New Super Mario Bros 2" followed the same pattern, giving us a real followup to Doki Doki/Mario USA.

Won't happen though

I guess the next game will be more of a sequel to SMB3.

 

[Darmstadtium]

I kind of see "New Super Mario Bros. 2" as fitting. The question is though would it be based around the US Mario 2 or the Japanese Mario 2?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I hope they won't call it New Super Mario Bros. 2.

That's like calling the second Batman Begins "Batman Begins Again".

Comments like those have come up before, but I disagree. Noone complained that the second season of Star Trek: The Next Generation was still called Star Trek: The Next Generation, even though it was the same generation as the previous season. If there's a sequel in the next 5 years, I'd bet on it being New Super Mario Bros. 2.

 

[jarrod]

I agree, actually. I would like it if Nintendo sorta retread what they've done with the past 4 Super Mario Platformers. NSMB= SMB, NSMB2 = SM2, etc.

It'd be a pretty bankable pattern imo, it'd also help "genre fatigue" from overshadowing the games too... they'd each feel really unique, resonating with their own identities, unlike the annual Sonic/Crash/Spyro/Jak/R&C/Tak/MegaMan/etc installments.

 

[jarrod]

I kind of see "New Super Mario Bros. 2" as fitting. The question is though would it be based around the US Mario 2 or the Japanese Mario 2?

The western release... SMB2 JP is too closely associated with the original. In Japan they could even call it, "New Super Mario Bros USA" instead.

 

[Cheebs]

And Metroid, we got two of em on both the GC and GBA. I think why I'm sure of a sequel is because this one is doing so incredibly well + competition.

And Pokemon.

It's more like Nintendo hates doing Mario sequels on the same system.

 

[jarrod]

Metroid Prime Hunters - 9133
DQ & FF in Itadaki Street - 8574


???

Itadaki P's performace is even worse than Hanjuku DS it looks like. Crisis Core can't come soon enough...

 

[Trurl]

And Pokemon.

It's more like Nintendo hates doing Mario sequels on the same system.

Oh, and Pikmin.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

And Pokemon.

It's more like Nintendo hates doing Mario sequels on the same system.

Ehh, Pokémon has mostly had the variants that belong in a set.

GB: 1 set (Red/Green/Blue/Yellow)
GBC: 1 set (Gold/Silver/whatevertheotheronewas)
GBA: 1 set original (Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald), 1 set remake (FireRed/LeafGreen)


Yes, certainly there are examples of games with sequels, but they are the exception.

 

[cvxfreak]

Crystal.

With that in mind, I hope Nintendo doesn't milk Diamond and Pearl with a third game.

 

[Cheebs]

Metroid Prime Hunters - 9133
DQ & FF in Itadaki Street - 8574


???

Itadaki P's performace is even worse than Hanjuku DS it looks like. Crisis Core can't come soon enough...

So even DSL's huge insanity didn't make Metroid huge eh? (Well it did do 30k last week)

 

[Stormbringer]

With that in mind, I hope Nintendo doesn't milk Diamond and Pearl with a third game.

Oh, they will. Indeed.

 

[koam]

That's like calling the second Batman Begins "Batman Begins Again".

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Oh, they will. Indeed.

Yeah, seems inevitable. I'm guessing Opal.

 

[cvxfreak]

So even DSL's huge insanity didn't make Metroid huge eh? (Well it did do 30k last week)

It hasn't been readily available. I'm sure it's sales were probably better than expected, even though they're not a hell of a whole lot.

 

[KINGMOKU]

Were getting the numbers within the our, right?

 

[DCharlie]

jumping back a little - just WOW at the RRP of Yoshi's island...

9,800円

:O :O :O

 

[Oblivion]

Shouldn't we have gotten sales by now? :/

 

[AniHawk]

Shouldn't we have gotten sales by now? :/

Yes.

 

[Fuzzy]

Shouldn't we have gotten sales by now? :/

Those same ninjas that stole the black DSL shipment also stole the sales numbers for this week. We're out of luck.

 

[Archie]

Those same ninjas that stole the black DSL shipment also stole the sales numbers for this week. We're out of luck.

Sony is getting desperate.

 

[jj984jj]

I kind of see "New Super Mario Bros. 2" as fitting. The question is though would it be based around the US Mario 2 or the Japanese Mario 2?

I meant Japanese SMB2, shut up jarrod!!!! >_< SMB2 was really challenging throughout, I'd like NSMB2 to be the same.

 

[ioi]

A 245k week 3 would put NSMB ahead of both Street Fighter II and Pokemon FR / LG (the two closest comparisons):

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japcomp.php?name1=New+Super+Mario+Bros&name2=Street+Fighter+II

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japcomp.php?name1=New+Super+Mario+Bros&name2=Pokemon+Fire+Red+%2F+Leaf+Green

And makes 3m very possible now. I'd expect NSMB to sail past FF XII in about 6 weeks at this rate...


245k would also be around the 7th biggest week 3 on record (with 2 of the games above having their week 3 fall in the big xmas week and the other 4 being Pokemon / DQ):

http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japwk.php?week=3

 

[osyrus]

hmm, where are the #s? they were posted 30 minutes ago this time last week :lol

 

[Jonnyram]

A 245k week 3 would put NSMB ahead of both Street Fighter II and Pokemon FR / LG (the two closest comparisons):

NSMB: 244882 :lol

 

[ioi]

NSMB: 244882 :lol

??

 

[Archie]

??

Numbers are out

http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/ranking.html

1. NSMB
2. ?
3. Brain Age 2
4. Winning Eleven?
5. Brain Age
6. Animal Crossing
7. English Training
8. Tetris DS
9. Mario Kart DS
10. Pokemon Ranger

 

[Doogdogg]

it's out. someone translate! cvx i'mloooking @ u! :lol