grandjedi6 said:Not necessarily. You can only print so many units of a product at once. Its entirely feasible that they knew demand outstripped supply but couldn't do anything about it.
Farore said:I really don't get the extensive hate the Tales franchise gets...
Yes, the milking is a little bit excessive, but as long as the main games are good [like Hearts, Graces, Vesperia], I don't see the problem...
Even the spin off aren't bad games...
The only really, really bad is Tempest... that one deserves all the hate it can get (and I can't comprehend how Namco still acknowledge it)...
Vinnk said:They moved on. I did. I waited for the glut of RPGs a first-place system should get. I got Dragon Quest Swords, Obscure, and some PS2 ports.
I bought a PS3 around the time of VC. I am guessing a lot of others did too.
matmanx1 said:Me neither, but then again I'm an American and we don't get enough good Tales love over here. Vesperia came out in Autumn 08.
schuelma said:I wonder if Galaxy 2 is going to have more 2D type parts to it.
I dunno, slighly less dead?DMeisterJ said:So if it had spots 25-30 which combined have probably sold 150k thusly making it have seven int he top 30 it wouldn't be dead?
I predict SMG2 are more or less (probably less) like SMG, and going to be way less than NSMBWkswiston said:What are people expecting sales-wise from Super Mario Galaxy 2? We've never had two 3D Mario games in one generation before. Part of me hopes that the much larger Wii install base, Positive word of mouth from the first Galaxy, and spillover hype from NSMB Wii (to a lesser extent) will lead to higher sales for the sequel, but you never know.
How many used FF13 you see ? 10s ? 100s ?Segata Sanshiro said:Me and my buddy had a sweet snowball fight with used FFXIIIs today in Tokyo. To protect ourselves we made forts out of used copies of FFXIII.
in other words, the "stacks" have arrived.
Very great leg. Does this mean TC can reach 4 Million (since both AC:WW & NSMBDS crossed the 5 Million) ?Road said:On the topic of curiosities, Tomodachi Collection has logged 28 consecutive weeks since launch without ever going below 50,000 (Famitsu).
I checked other games with ridiculous legs and the best I found was AC:WW with 20 weeks and NSMB, 19 weeks.
Do you have game backlog ? If you have, you would think : Hey, I got so many PS3/X360/Wii game backlog, I probably should delay/cancel the purchase of Sakura Wars PS2.jay said:The moving on concept has always been strange to me. Do people tend to throw out consoles when they buy new ones? I have this gens systems but when a new PS2 game comes out that looks good (say Sakura Wars) I don't think to myself that I've moved on, I buy the game.
apujanata said:I predict SMG2 are more or less (probably less) like SMG, and going to be way less than NSMBW
Onesimos said:I think you are thinking about best-selling home console game of all time, as according to this list below (it is outdated) two Pokemon games on the GameBoy sold more copies that Super Mario Bros.
Well, the latest rumor about Galaxy 2's release date is that a French Wii fansite got a hold of a PAL retailer release list from Nintendo that had Endless Ocean in February, Sin & Punishment 2 in April, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 on August 27th: http://www.nintendoeverything.com/30319/ (There's a link through to the French site there, but my French is a bit rusty).Effect said:I wouldn't be surprised if Galaxy 2 is delayed now so they could rework some 2D elements into it due to NSMBW's success. They at least have to be discussing it.
The Pokemons (Blue/Red) and Inazuma 2s are pretty much the same game though, so I think it's fair to combine them like you do with say, games with special or "limited" edition SKUs. Pokemon Green and Pikachu are a different issue though, and might be more comparable to the International version releases of FFs in Japan.Moor-Angol said:Pokemon are combined titles, it's like to say Inazuma Eleven 2 is million seller while there are 2 different title which sold around 500k each other.
Any single Pokemon game has sold over 6M as Super Mario Bros. did, so in my opinion it is the best seller game of all time in Japan.
And Famitsu really made confusion with Pokemon titles, especially Blue, Red, then adding Green and then adding Pikachu to their LTD, usually they just add LTD when 2 titles are realeased on the same day, but they didn't with Green and Pikachu editions.
apujanata said:Anyone played both Tomodachi Collection & Animal Crossing:WW ? Do you think TC can be considered as AC DS 2.0 (with Mii) ?
given the ps3slim came out not long ago, i'd say gt5 will sell quite a few slims across the world (perhaps not so much in NA).Nirolak said:I kind of wonder how many Gran Turismo fans already own a PS3 since it seems to be coming out so late in the generation.
swerve said:I think it's doubtful this gets localised because Nintendo can't do text-to-speech with the same 100% accuracy as Japanese.
d+pad said:Oh, I hope you're wrong about this (Tomodachi Collection being localized). I want this game!!![]()
Busaiku said:The Professor Layton movie already hit theaters right?
It's a shame that it probably didn't do much at all for the series.
It might have helped it maintain its legs, but it's still performing worse than its predecessors.
I guess the mass release of all those budget puzzle games from Level 5 might have hurt it.
Still, I thought the 2 games and the movie would've helped push it beyond a million.
It's still a big release, but I wonder how the other 2 prequels will do, since they'll be coming out during the DS's final window.
Michan said:
On the shelves, about a half dozen to a dozen in most of the shops. Behind the counters... a lot. It's not an extraordinarily long game so I suspect most of them are coming back now. That said, the used copies are only going for a few hundred yen less than new, so there's clearly demand for it.apujanata said:How many used FF13 you see ? 10s ? 100s ?
Thanks, I've updated the chart.Moor-Angol said:new Mario DS was 5,6M already on 13th Dec.
source : Famitsu
Maybe I can convince somebody to give me some high-res shots of Penguin Mario in the Wii emulation thread.Regulus Tera said:Needs some more Penguin Mario!
Thanks for the update.![]()
It seems for week five, it would be double play for New Super Mario Bros. Wii as it is expected to pass the lifetime sales of both Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario Land 2. Super Mario World is next.Michan said:Week four of Mario domination.
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apujanata said:Do you have game backlog ? If you have, you would think : Hey, I got so many PS3/X360/Wii game backlog, I probably should delay/cancel the purchase of Sakura Wars PS2.
jay said:Sure I have a backlog, but how does that tie directly into which console a game comes out on and the idea of moving on? If someone isn't going to buy a game if they've got one to play already it seems this should apply somewhat uniformly regardless of what console the new game is on.
I do think the reasoning that ToG didn't do well because it came out in a flurry of big games makes sense. I'm only skeptical of the idea that Wii owners threw out their Wiis and graduated to HD. Or put less absurdly, moved on.
Also having a backlog of hundreds of games doesn't ever stop me from buying a new game. It's called being good with money.
Segata Sanshiro said:On the shelves, about a half dozen to a dozen in most of the shops. Behind the counters... a lot. It's not an extraordinarily long game so I suspect most of them are coming back now. That said, the used copies are only going for a few hundred yen less than new, so there's clearly demand for it.
Forgot to look. The stores were pretty busy and I was in the midst of a fun 1000 yen challenge.cvxfreak said:What about used PS3 Slims? Are their numbers picking up at all?
Segata Sanshiro said:Forgot to look. The stores were pretty busy and I was in the midst of a fun 1000 yen challenge.
nextgeneration said:Hopefully, it'll be a little bit more than Galaxy but I'm not counting on it. I think the masses just don't care for Mario in 3d, including me. I much prefer 2D, and I think the average consumer does as well.
HK-47 said:This is silly. A game doesnt sell 8 million copies if the masses dont like it.
Combining Diamond with Pearl or Inazuma Eleven 2 seems right me. Either way we don't know what they have sold seperately unless we use shipments from YSO (for every Pokemon there is) which would inflate the numbers very much.Moor-Angol said:Pokemon are combined titles, it's like to say Inazuma Eleven 2 is million seller while there are 2 different title which sold around 500k each other.
Any single Pokemon game has sold over 6M as Super Mario Bros. did, so in my opinion it is the best seller game of all time in Japan.
And Famitsu really made confusion with Pokemon titles, especially Blue, Red, then adding Green and then adding Pikachu to their LTD, usually they just add LTD when 2 titles are realeased on the same day, but they didn't with Green and Pikachu editions.
Nirolak said:Well, the latest rumor about Galaxy 2's release date is that a French Wii fansite got a hold of a PAL retailer release list from Nintendo that had Endless Ocean in February, Sin & Punishment 2 in April, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 on August 27th: http://www.nintendoeverything.com/30319/ (There's a link through to the French site there, but my French is a bit rusty).
I'm not sure how credible the site is, but if we see an April PAL release date for Sin & Punishment 2 pop up, it seems that you might be right.
jay said:The moving on concept has always been strange to me. Do people tend to throw out consoles when they buy new ones? I have this gens systems but when a new PS2 game comes out that looks good (say Sakura Wars) I don't think to myself that I've moved on, I buy the game.
nextgeneration said:I guess my definition of masses is different from yours. When I say masses, I'm talking upwards of 20 million +.![]()
Segata Sanshiro said:On the shelves, about a half dozen to a dozen in most of the shops. Behind the counters... a lot. It's not an extraordinarily long game so I suspect most of them are coming back now. That said, the used copies are only going for a few hundred yen less than new, so there's clearly demand for it.
Hard to say. Ordinarily, I'd say yes, but next week the kids get their New Year's money, and while the younger ones are probably all going for Wii/DS stuff, FFXIII is going to be the popular choice for the teens.oldie-newbie said:Thanks for the update. I wonder if this means that FFXIII will be below 70 k next week...
Vinnk said:I don't throw them away, but to get my RPG fix, the Wii alone was no longer good enough for me. Just like the PS3 would not fulfill my 2D mario or Wii Sports needs. What I am saying is that I and a lot of other people are no longer starving for the next Wii RPG. I can play a PS3 RPG or a DS game or something else. I have stopped waiting for Wii to get RPG games.
cvxfreak said:Going to play some Shenmue or Shenmue II as my first game of the decade! *high five*
jay said:That makes sense if you look at something like Opoona. If a game is average and you're no longer tied to a single console then I'd get why you would ignore it. But if a game looks good what does it matter what console it's on? Is ToG supposed to be mediocre?
Your PS3 comparison doesn't make sense because you chose two classes of games only Nintendo makes. To follow the idea of moving on you'd have to say you won't give a shit about Little Big Planet 2 because NSMB Wii already came out.
Ultimately I don't understand why you would see things through the lens of consoles and not games. When games come out don't you just look at the games to see if they fit your taste or look interesting? It sounds like you first go through some calculation to factor in the system something is on when to me the whole point of having all the consoles is you can be entirely console agnostic.
jay said:The moving on concept has always been strange to me. Do people tend to throw out consoles when they buy new ones? I have this gens systems but when a new PS2 game comes out that looks good (say Sakura Wars) I don't think to myself that I've moved on, I buy the game.
mujun said:I move on. Can't really be bothered to keep a bunch of older stuff, especially when it isn't my main console. I've had pretty much every console (most of them more than one or two) but I've only got a PS3 and 360 these days.
Vinnk said:I am not entirely sure what you are saying. I play both Wii and PS3 (probably a bit more Wii than PS3). I started this gen as a Wii only gamer and I waited for the RPGs (my favorite genre) to hit. They Didn't. So I bought a PS3 so I could play VC. But when a Wii game I like comes out I buy that as well. What I am saying is that I am not starved for RPGs. So when Graces came out I was not desperately needing it. FFXIII was more appealing to me (but in the end I didn't buy either RPG and just got NSMBwii) And many other RPG fans have also stopped being Wii-only owners. So the argument "Shouldn't all the Wii gamers starved for an RPG have jumper on it" doesn't work so well. I think any person who call themselves serious RPG gamers have more than just a Wii. ToG looks great. I will buy it at some point.
I am not sure what you thought I was saying in my post and perhaps they were worded wrong but It is entirely because of the games that I decided to move on from only owning one system.
But this thread is really not about me, and I a, not sure why I just spent so many words defending my game preferences.
I notice Final Fantasy XII's number doesn't include International Zodiac Job System, though maybe that's intentional since it's a bit more than just a rerelease.donny2112 said:That list rolls up International Editions and BEST re-releases into each games total (if those sales are available), too. Even if Pokemon sales were readily available as separate SKUs, they'd probably still be combined on that chart.
Well, they did seem to create the Mothership/Escort distinction specifically to demote Tempest. :lolFarore said:The only really, really bad is Tempest... that one deserves all the hate it can get (and I can't comprehend how Namco still acknowledge it)...
Maybe Matt Casamassina has been invited over to EAD Tokyo to ensure the game locks into IGN standards of innovation, graphics, downloadable content and online multiplayer.Effect said:I wouldn't be surprised if Galaxy 2 is delayed now so they could rework some 2D elements into it due to NSMBW's success. They at least have to be discussing it.
So we are looking at the first week in Japan that NSMBW had big supply problem? Without knowing I guess that stock situation in the bigger cities wouldn't be so bad since Nintendo would lead the majority of the shipments there. At least that's what the logic says. Unless they completelly ran out of copies after Christmas.Vinnk said:As for something useful:
Against my better judgement I decided to go shopping on New Years Day (basically the Japanese version of Black Friday). Big discounts and "door buster" sales are advertised in the paper. They list all the discount prices and deals. What was interesting is that one flyer did not list a discount price for NSMBWii at all but simply listed "in stock!" as it's main characteristic. It was full price at the store despite pretty much every other game being 10-20% off. Still sold out at a lot of places. Nintendo missed out on many kids laden with New Years money. I ask again, how was stock in the bigger cities?
Chris1964 said:So we are looking at the first week in Japan that NSMBW had big supply problem? Without knowing I guess that stock situation in the bigger cities wouldn't be so bad since Nintendo would lead the majority of the shipments there. At least that's what the logic says. Unless they completelly ran out of copies after Christmas.
BowieZ said:Maybe Matt Casamassina has been invited over to EAD Tokyo to ensure the game locks into IGN standards of innovation, graphics, downloadable content and online multiplayer.