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Media Create October 11-17

01. / 01. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) - 168.541 / 4.161.397 (-27%)
02. / 00. [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 92.280 / NEW
03. / 00. [PSP] Lord of Arcana (Square Enix) - 69.932 / NEW
04. / 03. [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:coded (Square Enix) - 31.247 / 126.753 (-67%)
05. / 04. [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive) - 26.293 / 96.982 (-63%)
06. / 06. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 23.304 / 1.122.732 (-11%)
07. / 02. [PS3] Gekijouban Macross F: Itsuwarino Utahime - Hybrid Pack (Bandai Namco) - 18.071 / 170.769 (-88%)
08. / 11. [PSP] Black Leopard: A New Tale of Yakuza (Sega) - 11.263 / 247.748 (-41%)
09. / 05. [PSP] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire) - 9.848 / 40.420 (-68%)
10. / 09. [PS3] Dead Rising 2 (Capcom) - 9.761 / 113.872 (-60%)
11. / 10. [PSP] K-On! After School Live!! (Sega) - 9.745 / 202.048 (-55%)
12. / 08. [PS3] F1 2010 (Codemasters) - 8.680 / 33.953 (-66%)
13. / 14. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Zero no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) - 8.293 / 103.799 (-26%)
14. / 22. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco) - 8.150 / 194.869 (+42%)
15. / 20. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best Reprint] (Capcom) - 6.529 / 449.895 (+4%)
16. / 17. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 6.270 / 855.836 (-10%)
17. / 07. [360] Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive) - 6.203 / 31.877 (-76%)
18. / 21. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 5.990 / 2.092.697 (+1%)
19. / 00. [PS3] NBA 2K11 (Take-Two Interactive) - 5.167 / NEW
20. / 26. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 5.023 / 2.952.634

21. / 25. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
22. / 12. [PS3] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire)
23. / 27. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
24. / 24. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)
25. / 13. [NDS] Okamiden (Capcom)
26. / 18. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team (Bandai Namco)
27. / 23. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village (Capcom)
28. / 28. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
29. / 29. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo)
30. / 16. [PS3] Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. 2 (Ubisoft)
31. / 36. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
32. / 31. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
33. / 30. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 5 (Konami)
34. / 33. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 [Reprint] (Square Enix)
35. / 00. [NDS] Galaxy Express 999 DS (Culture Brain)
36. / 41. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega)
37. / 00. [PSP] Memories Off 6: Next Relation (5pb.)
38. / 19. [360] Dead Rising 2 (Capcom)
39. / 40. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)
40. / 49. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
41. / 48. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
42. / 39. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom)
43. / 38. [PS3] Winning Post 7 2010 (Koei Tecmo)
44. / 50. [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco)
45. / 00. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
46. / 35. [PSP] Starry Sky: In Summer Portable (Asgard)
47. / 47. [NDS] Tetris Party Deluxe (Hudson)
48. / 00. [PSP] Sengoku Basara: Battle Heroes [PSP the Best Reprint] (Capcom)
49. / 45. [WII] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom)
50. / 00. [PSP] Hakuouki: Zuisouroku Portable (Idea Factory)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 838.752 / 45.479.823 (-26%)


NDS - 15
PSP - 15
PS3 - 10
WII - 8
360 - 2
PS2 - 0



HARDWARE

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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     47.101  |     50.038  |  1.964.345  |  31.243.425  |
|  PSP  |     38.717  |     34.874  |  1.633.887  |  15.376.975  |
|  PS3  |     22.201  |     19.948  |  1.121.396  |   5.622.763  |
|  WII  |     12.810  |     12.158  |  1.085.542  |  10.690.741  |
|  360  |      2.342  |      2.746  |    169.824  |   1.379.496  |
|  PS2  |      1.715  |      1.373  |     67.251  |  21.677.428  |
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| DSiLL |     21.084  |     21.777  |    988.498  |   1.495.405  |
|  DSi  |     20.749  |     22.301  |    783.554  |   5.122.500  |
|  DSL  |      5.268  |      5.960  |    192.293  |  18.040.049  |
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|  PSP  |     37.127  |     33.683  |  1.582.500  |  15.249.833  |
| PSPgo |      1.590  |      1.191  |     51.387  |     127.142  |
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[WillyFive]

Kirby! Kirby! Kirby!

How the heck did Pokemon get over twice of Kirby's sales?

 

[Regulus Tera]

How does this compare to Super Star Ultra's debut?

Kirby! Kirby! Kirby!

How the heck did Pokemon get over twice of Kirby's sales?

It's fucking Pokeymanz, that's how.

 

[Seda]

Kirby! Kirby! Kirby!

How the heck did Pokemon get over twice of Kirby's sales?

Nearly twice

 

[Frillen]

Sad times indeed. The 3DS can't come soon enough.

 

[Regulus Tera]

So did Pokeymanz already beat DQIX? Or should I wait for next week? :lol

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

How does this compare to Super Star Ultra's debut?

SSU got 260k in its first week.

 

[Chris1964]

Media Create

24/03/00 [N64] Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (Nintendo) - 337.035 / 927.269
23/08/00 [NGB] Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble (Nintendo) - 200.190 / 507.252
25/10/02 [GBA] Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land (Nintendo) - 213.300 / 585.700
11/07/03 [GCN] Kirby Air Ride (Nintendo) - 79.700 / 278.500
15/04/04 [GBA] Kirby & the Amazing Mirror (Nintendo) - 188.837 / 736.226
24/03/05 [NDS] Kirby Canvas Curse (Nintendo) - 75.365 / 310.251
02/11/06 [NDS] Kirby Squeak Squad (Nintendo) - 166.131 / 1.144.490
06/11/08 [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) - 265.654 / 1.157.813
14/10/10 [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 92.280 / 92.280

 

[Regulus Tera]

Media Create

24/03/00 [N64] Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (Nintendo) - 337.035 / 927.269
23/08/00 [NGB] Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble (Nintendo) - 200.190 / 507.252
25/10/02 [GBA] Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land (Nintendo) - 213.300 / 585.700
11/07/03 [GCN] Kirby Air Ride (Nintendo) - 79.700 / 278.500
15/04/04 [GBA] Kirby & the Amazing Mirror (Nintendo) - 188.837 / 736.226
24/03/05 [NDS] Kirby Canvas Curse (Nintendo) - 75.365 / 310.251
02/11/06 [NDS] Kirby Squeak Squad (Nintendo) - 166.131 / 1.144.490
06/11/08 [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) - 265.654 / 1.157.813
14/10/10 [WII] Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo) - 92.280 / 92.280

SSU got 260k in its first week.

That's really disappointing. Blame it on the platform?

 

[Chris1964]

Pokemon outsold full price DQIX.

[NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) - 2.557.779 / 4.161.397

[NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Square Enix) - 2.318.932 / 4.109.773
[NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies [Ultimate Hits] (Square Enix) - 40.797 / 147.321

Next week DQIX full sales, including the budget re-release.

 

[Loudninja]

Red Dead Redemption doing pretty good.

 

[Empty]

poor kirby.

 

[Road]

Wii barely went up. But Mario Collection is coming to the rescue.

Black and White logs its 5th week at no. 1. Next week it'll be dethroned by Mario, so it won't break the 8 weeks record set by Diamond and Pearl (Famitsu).

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

PS3 is pulling ahead now by a lot this year. I think this year is pretty much wrapped up for Wii.
EDIT: What caused PS3's rise were there some new HDD models coming out or something? nothing released for it. And I doubt it was NBA2k11 unless all 5,000 people that bought it were newcomers.

 

[sixteen-bit]

poor kirby.

it charted.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I'm very disappointed for Kirby. Then we wonder why Nintendo did not want to develop hardcore games anymore. Shit, every of them seems to sell much worse than predicted. Even B-games like Wii Music or re-re-remakes like Animal Crossing City Folk sell much better in the end.

If Donkey Kong Country Returns bombs as well, hardly will Nintendo shift his development teams to the hardcore side anymore.

 

[Road]

PS3 is pulling ahead now by a lot this year. I think this year is pretty much wrapped up for Wii.

I don't think it is -- GT5 might not even come out this year.

 

[Deleted member 284]

PS3 is pulling ahead now by a lot this year. I think this year is pretty much wrapped up for Wii.

Its only ahead by under 40K. While I don't necessarily disagree, it's still too early with the end of season coming up.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

I don't think it is -- GT5 might not even come out this year.

Even if it doesn't, Nintendo doesn't have the kind of launch lineup that the PS3 is getting anyway. there is just no hope for it to catch back up i think...unless the 25th anniversary edition of mario does gangbusters.

 

[ivysaur12]

Amazing numbers for Pokemon.

Meh numbers for Kirby. At this point, Nintendo-published Wii games in Japan that aren't super casual are definitely lagging behind expectations. I'm sure that DKCR and The Last Story will be the exact same.

 

[Spiegel]

Can someone make a list of the games released in 2010 with LTD sales higher than 100k? Road, Chris?

I miss garaph.

 

[Kinan]

Tomorrow is the Move release there, right? What are you expectation guys? Any considerable hype?

 

[Cygnus X-1]

PS3 is pulling ahead now by a lot this year. I think this year is pretty much wrapped up for Wii.

One of the big adjustments Nintendo has to carry out with the successor of the Wii is to build up a more solid audience. The reason is clear: even if the Wii sold like crazy for 4 years, it now appears that its audience did not buy games for the system anymore. The score of Kirby illustrates exactly this problem: only the remaining small fanbase seems to care about what's coming out for the system and thus games are really sent to die.

I think that Nintendo needs a successor of the Wii. Next year. A presentation at E3 and then worldwide shipment between september and december.

Ah, a smart move would be to move Skyward Sword to the next system as launch game, like it was with Twilight Princess. Otherwise I think the game will really sell very poorly.

I think anyway that Donkey Kong Country Returns will be a good test: if it revitalize the Wii at least a little bit and at least in the U.S., then maybe Nintendo will gain some additional time. Otherwise, I repeat, I would not waste a Zelda on a dying console.

 

[Busaiku]

That's really disappointing. Blame it on the platform?

It's more on the style of the game.
Canvas Curse wasn't the traditional Kirby game, and it suffered too.

 

[doicare]

Even if it doesn't, Nintendo doesn't have the kind of launch lineup that the PS3 is getting anyway. there is just no hope for it to catch back up i think...unless the 25th anniversary edition of mario does gangbusters.

That's the thing tho, the mario 25th anniversary game is going to sell big, even with GT5 if it is coming out this year in Japan, it might not be enough to make up for the mario boost.

 

[jj984jj]

I hope Kirby has legs.

I'm very disappointed for Kirby. Then we wonder why Nintendo did not want to develop hardcore games anymore. Shit, every of them seems to sell much worse than predicted. Even B-games like Wii Music or re-re-remakes like Animal Crossing City Folk sell much better in the end.

If Donkey Kong Country Returns bombs as well, hardly will Nintendo shift his development teams to the hardcore side anymore.

Nintendo's the one that developed their market that way.

 

[Road]

Can someone make a list of the games released in 2010 with LTD sales higher than 100k? Road, Chris?

I miss garaph.

Me too. You can have an idea here: http://geimin.net/da/db/2010_ne_fa/index.php

Even if it doesn't, Nintendo doesn't have the kind of launch lineup that the PS3 is getting anyway. there is just no hope for it to catch back up i think...unless the 25th anniversary edition of mario does gangbusters.

Mario should do gangbusters. It should also be noted that, according to Famitsu, the Wii is still ahead of the PS3 by ~30k. I just don't think the Wii is 100% sure destined to sell less than the PS3 this year in Japan.

 

[Busaiku]

Nintendo hardware/software always tends to get a bigger boost in the holidays than other manufacturers/publishers, so it's certainly possible Wii may end up ahead for the year.

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

That's the thing tho, the mario 25th anniversary game is going to sell big, even with GT5 if it is coming out this year in Japan, it might not be enough to make up for the mario boost.

I just don't see a compilation of old mario games selling a lot, but I'll eat crow if I'm wrong.

 

[Spiegel]

Me too. You can have an idea here: http://geimin.net/da/db/2010_ne_fa/index.php

That'll do it.

Thanks

 

[swerve]

Hold up there guys. Mario Galaxy 2 did fine.

Compare Epic Yarn to Wario Land Shake or Yoshi's Story, not to a class A title - which it clearly isn't - heck, even I didn't buy it and I can't remember the last Nintendo published game I didn't buy on day 1.

 

[Regulus Tera]

I just don't see a compilation of old mario games selling a lot, but I'll eat crow if I'm wrong.

The Famicom Mini releases were HUGE. Whether old Mario games can sell systems is another issue though.

 

[faridmon]

Nintendo's the one that developed their market that way.

They like money, thats why! I don't see anything wrong with that. There might be 1 or 2 games for you and me who are sweatty old geeks with Metallica T-shirts but the revenue is coming from everyone else in the family, mate.

 

[ccbfan]

I wonder if Nintendo got caught off guard by the decline of the Wii?

Thinking they should concentrate on the next DS against (At that time) a stronger handheld competitor. While the Wii on cruise control destroys its competition.

Suddenly the PS3 slim starts to take down the Wii in Japan while the 360 slim start to take down the Wii in NA. (Probably not so much those being slims but more PS3 got down to an OK price and 360 got a revision so people stopped being so scared of faulty hardware) And bam now its looks like the Wii is the one that needs a successor first not the DS unlike 2 years ago. With all their resources put into the 3DS launch their only option is letting the Wii flounder pretty much killing all momentum the Wii achieved and basically going back to where they were with the GCN.

Had they known then what we knew now. (Death of PSP in western markets both hardware and software, PSP Go, Fall of Wii, Rise of 360 and PS3, stability of DS.) We probably would be talking about the next Wii instead of the 3DS right now.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

I wonder if Nintendo got caught off guard by the decline of the Wii?

Thinking they should concentrate on the next DS against (At that time) a stronger handheld competitor. While the Wii on cruise control destroys its competition.

Suddenly the PS3 slim starts to take down the Wii in Japan while the 360 slim start to take down the Wii in NA. (Probably not so much those being slims but more PS3 got down to an OK price and 360 got a revision so people stopped being so scared of faulty hardware) And bam now its looks like the Wii is the one that needs a successor first not the DS unlike 2 years ago. With all their resources put into the 3DS launch their only option is letting the Wii flounder pretty much killing all momentum the Wii achieved and basically going back to where they were with the GCN.

Had they known then what we knew now. (Death of PSP in western markets both hardware and software, PSP Go, Fall of Wii, Rise of 360 and PS3, stability of DS.) We probably would be talking about the next Wii instead of the 3DS right now.

Honestly, I think Nintendo made the same mistake a lot of us did. They assumed if they gathered the largest userbase, third party shit would just rain from the heavens.

 

[[Nintex]]

Wii: 12.810

That shit keeps sinking, with everyone on team Nintendo going to 3DS the future for the platform isn't looking too bright. Next year they'll break the software drought record with ease.

 

[apana]

Amazing numbers for Pokemon.

Meh numbers for Kirby. At this point, Nintendo-published Wii games in Japan that aren't super casual are definitely lagging behind expectations. I'm sure that DKCR and The Last Story will be the exact same.

How are Kirby and DKCR not casual friendly? Does everything in Japan have to be Wii something or Mario? Kirby gave PS3 a hardware bump. :lol

 

[Tenbatsu]

 

[Littleberu]

I can't believe how good the PSP is doing in Japan. Wow.

 

[kame-sennin]

One of the big adjustments Nintendo has to carry out with the successor of the Wii is to build up a more solid audience. The reason is clear: even if the Wii sold like crazy for 4 years, it now appears that its audience did not buy games for the system anymore. The score of Kirby illustrates exactly this problem: only the remaining small fanbase seems to care about what's coming out for the system and thus games are really sent to die.

I think that Nintendo needs a successor of the Wii. Next year. A presentation at E3 and then worldwide shipment between september and december.

I disagree. I think a Wii successor would only alleviate the problem temporarily, and its success would be more short lived than the original Wii. The Japanese market is clearly being disrupted by handhelds and that's where Nintendo's success will be. A new home console would only serve as a temporary must-have item before the market returned to the current status quo. The only thing that could really help Nintendo's home console line is a Pokemon-like phenomenon. Something that could revitalize an old, yet popular system. And even then, I'm not sure that such a phenomenon could help the home console line for more than one generation.

I think anyway that Donkey Kong Country Returns will be a good test: if it revitalize the Wii at least a little bit and at least in the U.S., then maybe Nintendo will gain some additional time.

I agree. DKCR is a good barometer.

 

[thestopsign]

I'll eat the sock I'm currently wearing if Kirby doesn't end up selling over 500k LTD. Should see a good holiday boost.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I hope Kirby has legs.


Nintendo's the one that developed their market that way.

Of course. Nintendo did a mistake shifting the development teams from casual stuff to hardcore stuff thinking that casual gamers would have bought their hardcore games. Or better: they did it too late.

If this shift had been conducted one year before, probably the console's life span would have been enlarged and games would have sold well. The hype was still high at that time. But Nintendo still seems to have some problems in bringing to the market games regularly; probably because they make a lot of artistic experiments that take an undefined amount of time.

For this reason, or for misjudging the evolution of the market or for overestimate the capabilities of the Wii, or whatever, games now are coming out in a situation of end life cycle like it was with the gamecube during 2004/2005.

Of course I'll admit that it was not that easy to read as evolution. In fact, Wii dropped very fast after 4 years of craziness. Normally, one would think that, or the console is a fad, sells like crazy for 1 year and then drops like a rock, or it sells like crazy for 4 years and then it drops slowly. Hardly one would suspect that a console that sells so well for 4 years then start to drop so fast.

Probably Nintendo realized the problem too late, because it is anyway true that in Japan the signs of that evolution appeared earlier and one could have though that the same, sooner or later, would have happened even in the occident. But it's also true that DS showed analogues signs when PSP 3000 and Monster Hunter effect came out, but later, DS could still affirm itself as a long selling portable system thanks to the heavy third party support. That Wii hadn't and still hasn't and this also explain why is dropping like a rock.

And if I were Nintendo, I would not necessarily make Wii HD a motion controlled system, since Wii's audience is not a faithful audience like a fanbase. Doing the same, just HD would be IMO a big risk and probably the console would sell nowhere as good as the Wii.

Nintendo has of course of bring HD, but with something once again totally new. Like 3DS is bringing 3D without glasses as major point, whereas the original DS had mostly the touch screen as major selling point. Well, we'll see.

 

[nincompoop]

Wow @ Kirby bomba. WTF has happened to the Wii in Japan?

stuff

Why do you keep saying that Kirby is a hardcore game

 

[Mael]

Did I read the Pokemon number right?
I mean I know I didn't follow it closely but 4Mil already?
WTF!!!!
Imagine the number it'll do worldwide!
That's like the most profitable thing anyone have right now!
And for Kirby I blame Other M!

Spoiler

Actually for everything wrong this year I blame Other M.

 

[kame-sennin]

Honestly, I think Nintendo made the same mistake a lot of us did. They assumed if they gathered the largest userbase, third party shit would just rain from the heavens.

I think that would be one of the three major mistakes Nintendo made this gen. The other two would be losing their momentum with the release of Wii Music/AC and not developing enough software to support M+, which made people who bought the Wii for motion control games feel cheated.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I wonder if Nintendo got caught off guard by the decline of the Wii?

Thinking they should concentrate on the next DS against (At that time) a stronger handheld competitor. While the Wii on cruise control destroys its competition.

Suddenly the PS3 slim starts to take down the Wii in Japan while the 360 slim start to take down the Wii in NA. (Probably not so much those being slims but more PS3 got down to an OK price and 360 got a revision so people stopped being so scared of faulty hardware) And bam now its looks like the Wii is the one that needs a successor first not the DS unlike 2 years ago. With all their resources put into the 3DS launch their only option is letting the Wii flounder pretty much killing all momentum the Wii achieved and basically going back to where they were with the GCN.

Had they known then what we knew now. (Death of PSP in western markets both hardware and software, PSP Go, Fall of Wii, Rise of 360 and PS3, stability of DS.) We probably would be talking about the next Wii instead of the 3DS right now.

Yeah, Nintendo got off guard probably. But my opinion is that Wii's performance has little to do with PS3 and 360. It has mostly to do with the total lack of third party support and Nintendo's inability to bring out games regularly. Ah, and the fact that no Wii game really sustained the system after Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus.

Anyway, I agree with the dude over saying that we all had expected to see at least a decent third party support after 70 millions consoles sold. For many reasons we repeat since 4 years of course not as consistent as on HD systems, but I would have not bet a penny on a similar emptiness. That's really a situation that is comparable with the Gamecube. And the Gamecube sold 4 millions in Japan and 21 millions worldwide. Hardly a so straightforward link could have been done.

About Kirby being hardcore: sure it is more than Wii Sports/Wii Party/Wii Fit. And I would not say it is a mass market targeting game like Mario. It's more like Zelda somehow.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I think that would be one of the three major mistakes Nintendo made this gen. The other two would be losing their momentum with the release of Wii Music/AC and not developing enough software to support M+, which made people who bought the Wii for motion control games feel cheated.

Wii Music and AC "failures" sure had an impact, but Nintendo catched up nicely with New Super Mario Bros Wii., Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus. The problem was solved. Things went wrong after that. Even Motion Plus had an impact, but I would not say a major one. Motion Plus was important mostly in the west with games like Red Steel 2 and some EA sports games. But sales of Wii in occident started to slow down just some months ago, and thus one could think that Wii Motion Plus did not sustain the system, but I would not say it damaged its sales.

The point is that the system has not enough games. Third parties sabotaged the system from the beginning while Nintendo could not convince them to develop for the system even before it peaked. And Nintendo itself hasn't had any major driving games since 2009. Mario galaxy 2 and Wii Party sold well, but they did not drive the system.

As said, Donkey Kong Country Returns is the last possibility. But I doubt it will have a large effect. Only fans remember Rare's DKC and fanbase on the Wii is very weak.

 

[Ashes]

nintendo seem to look to change that with the 3ds...

 

[donny2112]

losing their momentum with the release of Wii Music/AC

Wii Sports Resort was originally slated to come out that Fall.

not developing enough software to support M+,

If nothing new is announced to follow Skyward Sword, I'll agree. I'm all for moving it to a Fall 2011 (in Japan) launch with Wii 2, though. Motion+ built-in to every controller standard.

which made people who bought the Wii for motion control games feel cheated.

My viewpoint may be skewed, but I'd imagine that most people who bought Wii for motion controls are probably fine with the system. Pointer controls being separate. Traditional gamers who bought Wii primarily for motion controls are probably a very small number. *shrugs*

 

[schuelma]

The Wii has a lot of serious problems in Japan. Using Kirby as an example of these problems is misguided IMO.