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Media Create Sales: Week 1, 2014 (Dec 30 - Jan 05)
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Because people rather play a console game with better controls and on a big TV.
And it looks exactly the same as SB3.
Magicpaint
Member
They'd be switching versions of the same engine, not a brand new engine. But it's true that it looks basically the same as Basara 3 so yeah...
Aquamarine
Member
Very few people will shell out that kind of money from their own personal budgets just for sales data, but if you're willing to spend it, it's not off the table. NPD Group likes money.
That conversation is long gone pal. But don't worry, lurk around the first page of the gaming community and you'll find plenty of opportunities to defend the games and consoles you prefer.
Now that you mention that, I'd really like to know if we have LTD sales for FFCC and Dissidia on the west. I'd like to see how those games performed compared to Japan.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
The fuck? How are there no other attempts at the market at that kind of bullshit price?
Aquamarine
Member
Chartz isn't even competition. It's little more than a professional guessing website. NPD is the only provider of real, accurate, and trustworthy sales information.
It's market precedent. They set an absurdly high entry price to protect the integrity of their data. If it was like $100 a month, anyone could just swoop in, grab the data, and dump it online very easily.
Hell, even NPD---as expensive as it is---has been subject to a massive amount of leaks over the years. Especially here on GAF. ;-)
NPD is pretty cheap, relatively speaking. GfK is much worse. For the complete set of European data you'll pay like $23,000 a month.
NPD (USA only) - $3,000+ a month
NPD (Canada / Australia) - I have no idea, but probably like $3,000 a month each as well
Famitsu (Japan) - $4,600 a month
GfK (Europe) - $23,000 a month
That's what you have to pay to get a set of worldwide data.
Yeah the PS3/Vita multi approach has proved very beneficial for many publishers in Japan. Not sure why Capcom didn't bother branching out to Vita for a few extra K sales. Certainly has to be a more worthwhile venture than Dragon's Dogma QuestPlus doesn't Basara 4 run on MT Framework? I'm sure a Vita port would be feasible since they got that running on a Vita early on.
Proper Capcom Japan hasn't announced a Vita game since 2011. The crappy online games division is behind DDQ, and MHFG.
Glass Rebel
Member
It must be Tuesday.
I'm actually surprised to see NPD is only $3000/mo. I always imagined it would be more like $10000/mo.
Anyway, as if there were any doubt, sell-through blog on the upcoming sales numbers: "abrupt decline".
Aquamarine
Member
Well, there are tiers and gradations to the whole process. For example, you can have just numbers, or you can have numbers and analyses of the numbers, or you can get reports about the trends of the market...you know, stuff like that.
It also can depend on what kind of client you are, how much data you order, when you order it, etc. The prices can be variable depending on factors like that.
Extremely detailed NPD analyses / reports can easily add another $5,000-$10,000.
Presumably, the precedent for sales pricing is based on how many territories you cover. GfK covers a vast amount of countries, so it's incredibly expensive because you need the sales data for each country / region...which is a separate report with its own price tag.
NPD USA sales is just one database from one country...the USA may be a large country, but I don't think it's significantly harder for the company to gather numbers than countries like Canada or Australia.
Is there some reason behind this or is it just that they don't want to?
Road, you have the power to stop the platform wars, and you did nothing!
I know I said I was going to post the results last week, but, after that, I decided to change some stuff and it is taking longer than anticipated to finish it all.
That's quite cheap I think, for corporation
So for Japanese sales data, most of them are free then?
Sammy Samusu
Member
I'll save this thread!
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/01/14/20140114dog00m200033000c.html
Tsutaya says Kirby sold incredibly well. Google Transfu seems to indicate a record high for the series.
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/01/14/20140114dog00m200033000c.html
Tsutaya says Kirby sold incredibly well. Google Transfu seems to indicate a record high for the series.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
They properly saw the games the games they did release do badly and while looking at Vita's sales at the time decided to end most of the projects. and likely moved them over to smart phones. They haven't really supported the 3DS that much outside of MH and RE:R.
Sure. Outside of their three biggest franchises (MH3G, MH4, RE:R, RE:M, SSF4), their other big japanese franchise (PW5) and new IPs (EX Troopers, Gaist Crusher) they really haven't supported the 3DS that much.
No, Capcom has been a really good 3DS supporter.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
How many of those came at launch (notice the Vita received support at launch), I rest my case. It's not like they've released nothing but lets not pretend there isn't a large gulf in support in comparison to say the psp, or even DS. The total lack of MH spin offs is pretty glaring.
fredrancour
Member
But people don't really expect anything but MH and PW going forward, I thought? EX troopers and gaist crusher were bombs, and ssf and RE didn't do well enough to warrant continued releases, as far as we can tell. I don't follow this stuff that closely, these are my impressions of this off my occasional thread lurknig.
1? SSF3D is the only one that came out at launch.
The spin-offs are now more of a mobile thing while the mainline titles will come out on the 3DS, with ports and MHFG being available on other consoles.
I don't think that is true.
They know the main RE audience is on consoles where the big money can be made, but it seemd that RE:R did pretty well. SSF43D did really well, but that could be attributed to the fact that it was a launch title.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Both RE were launch period (first year). That leaves MH and new IP's, not an amazing amount of support, not exactly nothing, but like I said. it's not really great either..
That's some Nintendo definition of launch period. I don't think the rest of the world agrees.
fredrancour
Member
I guess that's what I mean: there's more money to be made off a console entry. The games would've had to be really big hits to keep handheld editions coming. The end result still seems to be that there won't be a revelations 2 for 3ds unless they take the handhelds -> hd edition path again, and plan that in advance.
What? Launch period is more like the first 3 months, unless you're Nintendo which is 6 months.
I don't think they would even do a handheld version of RE if they weren't planning on doing an HD port, but RE:R HD didn't seem to do well globally.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
What do you consider launch period, it's pretty much universal. Why do you think people consider Infamous SS as part of launch period and Titanfall.
3 months more people than Nintendo use more than that definition.
Either way Merc is launch is period.
I'd say the first three to four months counts as launch window. Resident Evil: Revelations launched eleven months later.
I've said this before, but that game really had no place being a 3DS exclusive. Resident Evil has no real heritage on handhelds, and it could've easily been a PSV/3DS multiplatform release, but I guess Nintendo (who apparently published it in Europe) wasn't having that.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
A lot of media does not which is why I've heard to term used in regards to those games a lot.
No doubt Nintendo played a hand but I don't think a Vita release would have made much of a difference to games fortunes, Vita's software sales weren't so hot at the time and the system was barely out. It's not a surprise Capcom decided to go with the Nintendo exclusivity and likely saved some money.
Titanfall and Second Son fall within the 4 month period pretty much.
This is a semantics argument, which will go no where, except it is certain that no one considers the first year of a console launch to be a part of its launch period.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
No they don't. that's closer to the 6 month barrier than 4.
X1: November 22, 2013
Titanfall: March 11, 2014
PS4: November 15/29, 2013
Infamous: March 21, 2014
Both are roughly 4 months after launch in the west.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I love me some Kirby! It looks like a great game and I'm looking forward to playing it. Has the game gotten any positive remarks or favorable reviews from Japan?
Sammy Samusu
Member
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00HJKZPOU/
Did we know about this?
Sony is so going to do another price cut/redesign in March.
Get that YOY growth.
Did we know about this?
Sony is so going to do another price cut/redesign in March.
Get that YOY growth.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Broken link
It's Phantasy Star Online 2: Episode 2 for Vita.
What could they possibly cheap out on if they wanted to make a cheaper redesign?
MasterSheen
Member
It's showing an error for me, what am I supposed to be seeing
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So if none of the trackers get every single store, does that mean that the number of sales is definitely more than what all the trackers report? Or do trackers do some kind of adjustment to account for stores they are missing?
Aquamarine
Member
The following image comes courtesy of a long-term study done by Japan's Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications and SMBC Nikko Securities, Inc., who shared it in a recent investor note.
It details the rise of the Japanese smartphone gaming industry and the decline of the feature phone markets.
It details the rise of the Japanese smartphone gaming industry and the decline of the feature phone markets.
Graphics Horse
Member
Smaller battery, slide pads, no wifi, non upgradeable storage, no card slot, e-ink screen, no power light, recycled cardboard chassis,
opticalmace
Member
When do we expect Week 2 numbers? Thanks.
WiiU - 18k
Kirby - 60k
Time for NCL to add "Mobile game development" to their portfolio.
Kirby - 60k
The following image comes courtesy of a long-term study done by Japan's Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications and SMBC Nikko Securities, Inc., who shared it in a recent investor note.
It details the rise of the Japanese smartphone gaming industry and the decline of the feature phone markets.
Time for NCL to add "Mobile game development" to their portfolio.
Why does it matter if it's at launch or not? Capcom had three times as many titles released for the 3DS when it was the same age as the Vita current is. At the time, the 3DS was just a few months away from Monster Hunter 4 and Ace Attorney 5.
If you still want to talk about launch, let's remember that Resident Evil: Revelations was one of the big 3DS titles being pimped out before the 3DS was launched. The disparity was always huge: Capcom had decided to take risks on in only one of the two.
Approximately 10 1/2 hours from now.
The already removed the OLED, that reduced the costs quite I bit I say...
A price drop is something I expect this year.