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I really hope Freedom Wars sells great because the game looks like its going above the boundaries of Monster Hunter and it looks better.
Wow...
Wii U 2012: 627,287
Wii U 2013: 898.143
That is really close.
Just out of curiousity, why does it matter what you call those people who play games? As long as people who play games, they are playing games.Videogames have become a medium even when they weren't meant to be one, and that means that a lot of people can approach them even if they're not gamers.
In other words, would you say that my aunt playing wii-fit is a gamer? Would she be a gamer if she did the same in a gym?
And what about people interested on the plot or the graphics? Could you say they're hardcore gamers? Why? Their interest is not in gaming, but in real time rendering or in the plot.
I define "gamer" as someone that's interested on gaming, not viewing, not listening, not doing exercise...
There are so many games out there, so i dont understand how you can say that traditional gaming is dying. Today its so easy to publish your own game since the internet so widespread. There are also extremely few WiiFit and WiiSports like games out there compared to how many games that excist in total, so traditional gaming isnt dying at all.Without any doubt. This is why I'm pissed with this industry, because traditional gaming is facing total death.
So I've got to ask, Vita hardware sales seem to be better in Japan (300K+). However, the software sales just seem very anemic to me.
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So software sales of the new titles this year so far are 228,462. Even with downloads and sales of old titles, do we even get an attach rate of one for this year (I guess FFX/X-2 might have pushed it over an attach rate of 1 for the new Vita owners since it's sold 72K this year)? Are the future announced Vita releases relatively bigger?
Dengeki (retail) 2014
Vita software - 713194
Vita Hardware - 300405
Top 20/30 doesn't paint the full picture. For example, this week:
Vita software - 56,057
Oh ok. That seems much better. The top 20/30 this week doesn't even represent 50% of the Vita SW sales for this week. Do we have similar #s for Wii U out of curiosity?
Decent hold for PS4 considering the software available for it. Great numbers from Vita, where are those Paul Bearer gifs !!! .
Here is an honest question...
Does the Vita recovery show that there is at least still a slight chance WiiU could stabilize at a much higher weekly average ?. I'm not talking 30k per week but how about 20k ?. If Nintendo could sell 20 000 WiiU consoles per week that would be around 1.5 million units per year (factoring in the Holiday bump) and around 7.5 million lifetime sales by early 2019.
Would Nintendo be happy with 7.5 million WiiU's sold for an entire generation in Japan ?.
Huh?they'd probably be happy with that worldwide
I really hope Freedom Wars sells great because the game looks like its going above the boundaries of Monster Hunter and it looks better.
Those aren't real games.Just out of curiousity, why does it matter what you call those people who play games? As long as people who play games, they are playing games.
Last week's bump to 30k was probably mostly caused by a new bundle called welcome box which included an 8 gig memory card, a pouch and the card is preloaded with some demos and free to play games. One of the demos is Soul Sacrifice Delta which may be why it shows some legs. I was hoping it would be well beyond 100k by the first week thoughNo one bought soul sacrifice what are people buying vita's for?
Yes, because the Wii U will clearly be on the market and maintain sales rates more than twice what it does now for another 5 years.
Also, the PSV's "recovery" is localised and relatively mediocre.
I expect nothing from Bayonetta and Sonic. I expect Mario Kart 8 will spike sales around the week of release and have an effect that will still ultimately be transient rather than sustained long term. Likewise Smash. I don't know what to expect from Hyrule Warriors considering the market for games like Dynasty Warriors isn't really on the platform.And that's my point, Vita was considered to be in just as bad a spot as WiiU not so long ago and now it's selling 30k per week. If WiiU sales improve and it gets to even 20k per week then it will most definitely still be around in 5 years.
Don't you expect any kind of improvement from Japanese WiiU hardware sales with MK8, a Zelda Dynasty Warriors title, Bayonetta 2, an exclusive Sonic, X and Smash all releasing in the last 7 months of the year ?.
On the vita software sales; didn't some source say that about half of purchases are digital?
I feel like I'm watching my kid slam home a solid second place in the egg and spoon race on sports day.
My kid that was born without arms and emits an egg-destroying wave every ten seconds.
On the vita software sales; didn't some source say that about half of purchases are digital?
Last I saw, it was about 1/3, but that was a worldwide number. Japan seems to run about 8-15% depending on the title.On the vita software sales; didn't some source say that about half of purchases are digital?
On the vita software sales; didn't some source say that about half of purchases are digital?
Vita's recovery has to do with its appealing to a (largely) niche audience through third party support. There's little reason to believe that the Wii U will get that. In fact, it would be pretty miraculous if it did.
Slow abandonment of 360 sales in preparation for Xbox One September launch confirmed!
I really hope Freedom Wars sells great because the game looks like its going above the boundaries of Monster Hunter and it looks better.
Being a handheld helps Vita to establish profitable niche since the development cost on the platform isn't that high. Wii U need bigger user base if it want to have profitable niche and that indeed is impossible.
More than that, the Vita has provided a better environment for third-party software. We've seen that games don't automatically bomb by virtue of being on the Vita, and some series can perform well, which is a lot more than you can say about the Wii U at this point.
I'm not seeing it. It looks like a GE clone rather than having anything to do with MH.
This myth is becoming the new Hulk Hogan slamming an 8 foot giant in front of 100,000 Hulkamaniacs.On the vita software sales; didn't some source say that about half of purchases are digital?
WiiU will be lucky to crack 4 million units in Japan unless it has some kind of PS3 resurgence... and I don't really see that being likely.
I do think they'll crack seven million worldwide. I don't think they'll exceed 15 million units worldwide. NA will be the largest share, but I might even be optimistic placing it at 9 million units there.
All of these numbers could be much worse though. I'm thinking of LTD unit sales in year six. If it doesn't live that long the numbers could be lower.
In any case WiiU is likely to be the largest drop-off generation to generation any game hardware manufacturer has ever seen. 100 million units down to optimistically 15 million units.
PS3 might have looked in danger coming off of the PS2, but Nintendo will definitely lose both a higher percentage of their marketshare generation to generation than Sony did with the PS3, and in total unit sales. The only area they are likely to come out ahead is in profit. Sony lost twice as much in a year on the PS3 than if Nintendo had their recent losses for the next three.
I love Nintendo, but everything about WiiU has been an unmitigated disaster.
Hmm, that reminds me, since Aquamarine doesn't seem to be active in MC sales threads, is there anyone else that will post Dengeki weekly sales?
Also, where can you find it being posted?
Found here: http://dengekionline.com/sp/softranking_top50/
Split the diff at 8?9 million is optimistic as hell for the Wii U in North America
7 million sounds about right
Split the diff at 8?
This year in America I think Kart and Smash will give it its best year with around 1.6-1.9 million units. The year after back down to around 1.3 million, 1.1 the year after, 1 million units the next.
That's if they can get costs down enough to liven it up for a month every once in a while with deep price cuts.
Even this dire scenario requires them to have at least one year out-pacing their first by at least a half a million units.
In Japan I think the course is set to end around 3 million units. Marginally higher maybe, but not much so.
I expect Europe to be worse in the long run. I don't know if they even get to 3 million units there. I mean really sold through units.
Wow at that PSP numbers. You have to break that 400k numbers Vita version! Make it for the Burst!God Eater 2 Vita charted in this week Dengeki Top 50
GE2 Vita 1,897/394,305
GE2 PSP 1,149/219,947
Game now 600K+ sell-through.
God Eater 2 Vita charted in this week Dengeki Top 50
GE2 Vita 1,897/394,305
GE2 PSP 1,149/219,947
Game now 600K+ sell-through.
Yes, because the Wii U will clearly be on the market and maintain sales rates more than twice what it does now for another 5 years.
Also, the PSV's "recovery" is localised and relatively mediocre.
Those aren't real games.
He's wrong as well, this is the only real game.
If it's not Pong, it's wrong.
What's impressive is that there is an almost 1 to 2 PSP to Vita sale ratio.1.8% to be exact
Can we expect Burst release this Autumn? (judging by God Eater -> God Eater Burst release difference)
I think so. What I'm curious to see is the platforms it'll be released. Vita exclusive? PS3/Vita? Vita / 3DS would be hard since the game won't have cross-platform multiplayer and they don't want to fragment the userbase.
Do we know if Toukiden expansion is Vita only or Vita / PSP ?
I'm not sure about 3DS, that would be a big surprise to me. Vita is exclusive, I can almost see it, if they want to encourage people to transfer to Vita but I doubt it. It's going to be PSP and Vita. I'm pretty sure next God Eater will drop PSP though.
Do we know if Toukiden expansion is Vita only or Vita / PSP ?
Zelda mudou is a weird product as in i dont know if its supposed to help gather a musou audience or an zelda audience on the wiiu, since ww sold like 50k in The end and musou hyper sold 40k. If its objective is overseas, then i think it males more sense, but why musou then? So weird.
But it may do sell on the fact it an exclusive. Not as well as the musou games on the ps3, but it might do as the samurai warriors game on the Wii. I dont know. Between zelda, kamen rider and bayonetta, nintendo is trying to cultivate an action oriented fanbase. Dont think it will matter much, but its better than nothing.
And i dont believe the wiiu will sell only 3 million in Japan. I think this year will be better than the last and if that happens, unless the system is killed fast next year, which is also dont think it will happen, males 3 million a lock.
Do we know if Toukiden expansion is Vita only or Vita / PSP ?
With the Vita selling decently and the PSP being in it 10th year, people still consider the PSP a possibility? I'd be really surprised.
I think Toukiden is going to have the Vita and a homeconsole next. Tecmo doesn't usually stick to a single platform and it'll be (kinda) smart to release the 1.5 version on a platform that doesn't sell like shit in the West (lowing risk and that stuff). Tecmo has been releasing games on the 360 for years iirc, so there is a precedent.
I'm not seeing it. It looks like a GE clone rather than having anything to do with MH.
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 693.000 | 597.000 | 958.000 | 9.352.000 | 10.471.000 |
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