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[anderedna]

Ouch D5. NIS choose to release it at the wrong time. However I still salute NIS for releasing their main IP on current gen console only, different from other pub which choose cross gen. You guys choose to move on and hopefully you'll be rewarded with a long leg for D5. Just don't kill that series tho. I'll buy it once it released in English in October.

Anyway congrats to Sony this week. Let see how the trend goes in the following weeks.

EDIT: Damn top of the page.

 

[Road]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

 

[Atram]

That is true but we also know that in Japan there not going on this gen systems as fast as every where else.
When DS1 came out the install base was 5 times bigger so all in all the sales pretty good taking everything in to account.

i´m here with you, i only wanted to explaine that a big base as nothing to mean in terms of sales.

 

[GunBR]

Someone has the numbers of all Disgaea debuts?

And looks like the game will sell only a little more than 50k worldwide (i'm assuming that Disgaea sales in the west are not that great). I hope that it's enough to the series survive

 

[Pillville]

Say hello to each of the new XB1 owners in Japan

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[Dargor]

I'll repeat what I said in the previous thread.

Expected (but good) result for Bloodborne. Great result for SAO given the 55k boost from PS3 copies. Disgaea 5 = roflmao bomba.

Could Sony have helped them financially to make it a PS4 game instead of a PS3/Vita one? I don't think they would have made it a PS4 game if they didn't have any incentive to do so.

Especially when they weren't doing great before.

 

[nightever]

PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 627,214 828,132 Ratio FW/LTD : 0.76
PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 269,035 407,132 Ratio FW/LTD : 0.66
PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 54,509 103,757 Ratio FW/LTD : 0.53
PS3+PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 323,544 510,889 Ratio FW/LTD : 0.63

PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 81.387
PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 42.845
PS4 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 37.812
PS3+PSV+PS4 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 162.044

With a ratio FW/LTD between 0.6 and 0.75 it should end up as selling between 216k and 270k

The franchise fatigue is huge, and they already tried to prevent it by releasing the third game two years after the second one

MC number make the game selling almost 200K rather than 162K though.

 

[Steroyd]

Of all the weeks to release Disgaea, that has to be the worse week ever, especially when you're contending with anime series' like One Piece and SAO, it just was not going to happen

 

[Foshy]

Good.

Now do one with new IPs on PS3.

meh. i don't really get the point of his comparison either but Bloodborne is hardly a new IP. It's a Souls game.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

Impressed by the vita hopefully it keeps picking up momentum.

 

[akitaone]

Wow, is NIS going under after this? That was mega-bomba numbers for D5.

What kind of numbers were you expecting considering the PS4 userbase?

 

[gigantor21]

Say hello to each of the new XB1 owners in Japan

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Ouch.

Nice to see the PS4 doing relatively well.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

(i'm assuming that Disgaea sales in the west are not that great).

[NIS] actually specifically said in the interview that overseas support was a factor of jumping to PS4 so early. He said more than half of their sales come from overseas markets in the Famitsu interview

There's no way Disgaea 5 will just do 20k outside of Japan.

 

[theprodigy]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

10/10 troll, would read again

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

I don't know if it's the best comparison since these games have different demographics targets but attach rates are really a needed information when talking about sales. (still thanks for these numbers)

it also excludes digital sales, which are much more prominent now than 7-8 years ago

 

[BadWolf]

Good.

Now do one with new IPs on PS3.

And adjust for consoles being less dead in Japan.

 

[akitaone]

Someone has the numbers of all Disgaea debuts?

And looks like the game will sell only a little more than 50k worldwide (i'm assuming that Disgaea sales in the west are not that great). I hope that it's enough to the series survive

Yes I did post these on the first page...D5 sales are around normal considering the userbase, and the IP is alot more mature than it was when D3 came out.

 

[Delusibeta]

And Sammy with the morbid truth!

"Established IPs tend to sell better than new IPs!"

 

[BlackBuzzard]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

 

[HIR0]

Comparison!

PS4: 1,229,554
- Bloodborne: 150k


PS3: 746,971
- Dynasty Warriors Gundam: 171k

PS3: 1,062,257
- Hot Shots Golf 5: 175k

PS3: 1,329,445
- Dynasty Warriors 6: 176k

That's not a very good comparison :/
New IP vs established franchises and you also have to consider the time period/climate.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

 

[Moobabe]

Any chance Sword Art Online might see a PS4 port or version at some stage? Seems to be pretty popular

 

[IAmRandom31]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

 

[test_account]

And Sammy with the morbid truth!

What is the truth?

 

[Kyoufu]

Any chance Sword Art Online might see a PS4 port or version at some stage? Seems to be pretty popular

Morpheus title would be good.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

Yeah there was certainly not several animes named Gundam when that game released...

 

[-Horizon-]

SAO doing god's work.

How does Estival Versus sales compare?

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

What is the truth?

Nothing to the effect of "omg, Bloodborne bombed!"

Just that the current market is terribly weak. Just another reminder of the obvious.

 

[mao2]

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

Hey Sammy Samusu, how do you feel about Senran Kagura Estival Versus' sales?

 

[Mpl90]

Look, Road! The trap is working!

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

And Sammy with the morbid truth!

What truth is that?

 

[Orgen]

So now we are playing the "install base is small" card? Just what Nintendo fans where spouting when Pikmin, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart... etc. where released and didn't sell on Wii U? It's going to be fun when FF XV releases ;D

To all these people making "horrible" math in this thread, how do you explain then Dark Souls 2 selling less than Dark Souls if the PS3 install base was bigger? uh? That's what Atram's trying to explain.

The question here was if BloodBorne is a system seller... difficult to say because PS4 is still putting great numbers but is impossible to say that BloodBorne is the direct cause for these numbers. We'll see next weeks

 

[akitaone]

To recap the PS3 Disgaea first week sales in one post:
Disgaea 3 - 54K (Jan 2008 -15 months after system launch, like D5)
Disgaea 4 - 79K (February 2011)
Disgaea D2 - 55K (March 2013)

 

[mintylurb]

Look, Road! The trap is working!

Seriously..road's post was almost as transparent as sammy's.
Gaf isn't what it used to be.. ;<

 

[wilflare]

Vita doing good numbers
seems like Vita Renaissance is indeed happening

 

[Ghost Slayer]

meh. i don't really get the point of his comparison either but Bloodborne is hardly a new IP. It's a Souls game.

???
It's a new IP. If not, why the hell they don't call it Demon's Souls 2

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Hey Sammy Samusu, how do you feel about Senran Kagura Estival Versus' sales?

Estival Versus sold less than Shinovi, just like Senran Kagura 2 sold less than 1.

It's fading.

 

[Atram]

To recap the PS3 Disgaea first week sales in one post:
Disgaea 3 - 54K (Jan 2008 -15 months after system launch, like D5)
Disgaea 4 - 79K (February 2011)
Disgaea D2 - 55K (March 2013)

But how big was the base?

 

[arevin01]

If Bloodborne has half the sales of Dark Souls, that's pretty much the definition of Bomba.

 

[Devilgunman]

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

You're serious, right? Just to make sure.

You're comparing Bloodborne to the Musou game based on one of the biggest Anime franchise in Japan. That's what you're doing.

 

[mao2]

Estival Versus sold less than Shinovi, just like Senran Kagura 2 sold less than 1.

It's fading.

LOL OK.

 

[thekiddfran]

Its the most hyped Japanese or Western PS4 game to date and the first real system seller on top of being a genuinely great game, I was expecting 250k-300k.

 

[Fisico]

MC number make the game selling almost 200K rather than 162K though.

Well we can use Media Create if you want,

[PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) - 97.362
[PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) - 54.308
[PS4] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) - 46.693

[PS3+4+V] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) - 198.363

With a FW/LTD ratio between 0.6 and 0.75 it should end up as selling between 265-330k

Point is the 350-400k range is a huge stretch and OPPW will not reach it, the 0.6 ratio is also a veeeeery optimistic one.
Honestly don't expect the game to even reach 300k across the 3 SKU.

 

[Shengar]

Comparison!

PS4: 1,229,554
- Bloodborne: 150k


PS3: 746,971
- Dynasty Warriors Gundam: 171k

PS3: 1,062,257
- Hot Shots Golf 5: 175k

PS3: 1,329,445
- Dynasty Warriors 6: 176k

This is the prove why you people shouldn't take number without context.

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

This trap is really like the trap in Forbidden Forest: really obvious but somehow it pass through people eye and still step on it.

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

Well you just proved how useless your number then by this post alone (hint: fanbase size and IP age).

You're serious, right? Just to make sure.

You're comparing Bloodborne to the Musou game based on one of the biggest Anime franchise in Japan. That's what you're doing.

Actually from that comparison, Sammy unintentionally makes Bloodborne number an amazing one

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I'm sorry, but if Bloodborne is a new IP, then so is Gundam Musou.

Estival Versus sold less than Shinovi, just like Senran Kagura 2 sold less than 1.

It's fading.

Please, go on.

I am surprised you didn't post any of your celebrity GIF like you usually do with your Nintendo sales.

 

[thekiddfran]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

I feel stupid reading after reading this tripe.

 

[Ryan95]

I'm so glad SAO Lost Song for Vita was a success for two main reasons:
-They will likely develop a sequel
-Now Bamco has to localize this to the West, they have no excuses. GIVE IT TO ME. RIGHT NOW.

 

[Mrbob]

Disgaea 5.

 

[Chû Totoro]

1st week

01./00. [PS3] Dark Souls <RPG> (From Software) {2011.09.22} (¥7.800) - 279.567 / NEW <90,09%>
PS3 7.080.303 LTD
Attach Rate > 3.9%

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW
PS4 1.302.706
Attach Rate > 11,7%

Imo almost all Bloodborne target audience is already on PS4. Dark Souls having more sales is mostly due to the way bigger install base but core audience for the game is already here on PS4.
Maybe 300k for Bloodborne but I'm not seeing it selling a lot more?

Do I eat shit? lol

I'm trying to understand how gaming sales works because even if I come in sales thread a lot I'm clearly not able to understand and explain the numbers. Which is something I would like to try more often

 

[Eolz]

01./00. [PS4] Bloodborne <RPG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 152.567 / NEW

Wow, didn't dark souls 1 and 2 sell over 250k first week?

Bloodborne is a huge bomba. From Software regretting going exclusive. It's nearly midnight in Japan and I bet everyone is in the studio working on the PC and Xbox one port.

Lol.

But yeah for those complaining about the comparisons, Demon Souls did 37k FW. Bomba!