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frankie_baby · Apr 20, 2013

michaelius said:
How enjoyable is playing your ps3 in train ?

yeah their is the portability aspect which will attract some but (unless they make the vita games budget priced) the value proposition makes it very hard to justify

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

Since 3DS won't have DS 2006 and 2007 crazy years the software king has more similar trend with it.

PS2 {2000.03.04}

2000 CY {1999.12.27 - 2000.12.31} [PS2] Software Sales - 7.601.400 / 7.601.400
2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 18.817.400 / 26.418.800
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [PS2] Software Sales - 26.947.500 / 53.366.300
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [PS2] Software Sales - 31.519.900 / 84.886.200
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PS2] Software Sales - 34.055.200 / 118.941.400
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PS2] Software Sales - 29.074.935 / 148.015.400
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [PS2] Software Sales - 24.410.700 / 172.426.100
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 13.262.872 / 185.689.000
2008 CY {2007.12.31 - 2008.12.28} [PS2] Software Sales - 7.111.971 / 192.801.000
2009 CY {2008.12.29 - 2009.12.27} [PS2] Software Sales - 3.230.000 / 196.031.000
2010 CY {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26} [PS2] Software Sales - 811.700 / 196.842.700
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PS2] Software Sales - 171.737 / 197.014.400
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 38.047 / 197.052.400

Nekki · Apr 20, 2013

I'm pretty certain 3DS can reach 120m SW, if it keeps up the good environment.

LayLa · Apr 20, 2013

PSP {2004.12.12}

2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PSP] Software Sales - 550.665 / 550.665
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PSP] Software Sales - 4.179.374 / 4.730.039

PSV {2011.12.17}

2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PSV] Software Sales - 396.414 / 396.414
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PSV] Software Sales - 1.953.478 / 2.349.892

really drives home how miserable Vita software sales have been, people tend to focus on hardware sales but that's less than half of the already pretty mediocre PSP software sales. "but but digital sales" isn't going to work as an argument either.

MasterSheen · Apr 20, 2013

3DS should overtake GBA HW by the end of this year, and SW by the end of 2014.

Psycho_Mantis · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
Since 3DS won't have DS 2006 and 2007 crazy years the software king has more similar trend with it.

PS2 {2000.03.04}

2000 CY {1999.12.27 - 2000.12.31} [PS2] Software Sales - 7.601.400 / 7.601.400
2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 18.817.400 / 26.418.800
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [PS2] Software Sales - 26.947.500 / 53.366.300
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [PS2] Software Sales - 31.519.900 / 84.886.200
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [PS2] Software Sales - 34.055.200 / 118.941.400
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [PS2] Software Sales - 29.074.935 / 148.015.400
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [PS2] Software Sales - 24.410.700 / 172.426.100
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 13.262.872 / 185.689.000
2008 CY {2007.12.31 - 2008.12.28} [PS2] Software Sales - 7.111.971 / 192.801.000
2009 CY {2008.12.29 - 2009.12.27} [PS2] Software Sales - 3.230.000 / 196.031.000
2010 CY {2009.12.28 - 2010.12.26} [PS2] Software Sales - 811.700 / 196.842.700
2011 CY {2010.12.27 - 2011.12.25} [PS2] Software Sales - 171.737 / 197.014.400
2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [PS2] Software Sales - 38.047 / 197.052.400

PS2 was on a next level. Truly the god tier console.

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

Speaking for underperforming systems,

GCN {2001.09.14}

2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GCN] Software Sales - 1.784.900 / 1.784.900
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GCN] Software Sales - 5.476.000 / 7.260.900
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [GCN] Software Sales - 7.300.400 / 14.561.300
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [GCN] Software Sales - 4.985.200 / 19.546.500
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [GCN] Software Sales - 3.116.528 / 22.663.000
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [GCN] Software Sales - 769.200 / 23.432.200
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [GCN] Software Sales - 3.300 / 23.435.500

WIU {2012.12.08}

2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [WIU] Software Sales - 875.972 / 875.972
2013 Q1 {2012.12.31 - 2013.03.31} [WIU] Software Sales < 500.000

zroid · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:

SOFTWARE

Code:

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    [B]482.000[/B] |    647.000 |    [B]482.000[/B] | 14.170.000 | 14.001.000 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

that's kind of spooky

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

2013 Q1 software: Vita=2xWiiU and better not talk for third party sales ratio

Man God · Apr 20, 2013

GCN had a really outstanding software run in the beginning. Most of those 2001-2003 sales are from a few big titles!

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
2013 software: Vita=2xWiiU and better not talk for third party sales ratio

I honestly think that says more about the Vita since it actually has games releasing and that price drop push.

DaBoss · Apr 20, 2013

Can you do 3DS SW for Q1?

Man God said:
GCN had a really outstanding software run in the beginning. Most of those 2001-2003 sales are from a few big titles!

It had god damn Melee in its first year!

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

DaBoss said:
Can you do 3DS SW for Q1?

3DS=5xVita

Man God · Apr 20, 2013

DaBoss said:
Can you do 3DS SW for Q1?

It had god damn Melee in its first year!

3 months after it launched in Japan. It was about three weeks later in America.

Bruno MB · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
2013 Q1 software: Vita=2xWiiU and better not talk for third party sales ratio

I guess that with the exception of Dragon Quest X, no other Wii U third-party game reached 20.000 units this year.

DaBoss · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
3DS=5xVita

So 3DS Q1 SW <5,000,000

Man God said:
3 months after it launched in Japan. It was about three weeks later in America.

Yes, but it was the best game to have in its first year and it is pretty much evident with this:

Code:

2001-11-19	|	357,101	| 	357,101
2001-11-26	| 	62,506	| 	419,607
2001-12-03	| 	47,933	| 	467,540
2001-12-10	| 	74,555	| 	542,094
2001-12-17	| 	139,845	| 	681,939
2001-12-24	| 	116,971	| 	798,910
2001-12-31	| 	121,960	| 	920,870

Nearly a million before the year ended.

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

Bruno MB said:
I guess that with the exception of Dragon Quest X, no other Wii U third-party game reached 20.000 units this year.

I'm tempted to search it but this must be a new record of what early support means

[WIU] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.01.31} (¥8.190)
[WIU] Tank! Tank! Tank! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.21} (¥5.040)
[WIU] Need for Speed: Most Wanted U - A Criterion Game <RCE> (Electronic Arts) {2013.03.20} (¥6.615)
[WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935)
[WIU] Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980)

Man God · Apr 20, 2013

The next two or three years follow that pattern. Small releases that do nothing and then games like Mario Kart or Zelda come out, create gigantic waves for a week or two, settle into decent sales and then die back to sell steadily below the charts, well, for Mario Kart at any rate.

Nekki · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
Speaking for underperforming systems,

WIU {2012.12.08}

2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [WIU] Software Sales - 875.972 / 875.972
2013 Q1 {2012.12.31 - 2013.03.31} [WIU] Software Sales < 500.000

Touchè!

fabricated backlash · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
Speaking for underperforming systems,

GCN {2001.09.14}

2001 CY {2001.01.01 - 2001.12.30} [GCN] Software Sales - 1.784.900 / 1.784.900
2002 CY {2001.12.31 - 2002.12.29} [GCN] Software Sales - 5.476.000 / 7.260.900
2003 CY {2002.12.30 - 2003.12.28} [GCN] Software Sales - 7.300.400 / 14.561.300
2004 CY {2003.12.29 - 2004.12.26} [GCN] Software Sales - 4.985.200 / 19.546.500
2005 CY {2004.12.27 - 2005.12.25} [GCN] Software Sales - 3.116.528 / 22.663.000
2006 CY {2005.12.26 - 2006.12.31} [GCN] Software Sales - 769.200 / 23.432.200
2007 CY {2007.01.01 - 2007.12.30} [GCN] Software Sales - 3.300 / 23.435.500

WIU {2012.12.08}

2012 CY {2011.12.26 - 2012.12.30} [WIU] Software Sales - 875.972 / 875.972
2013 Q1 {2012.12.31 - 2013.03.31} [WIU] Software Sales < 500.000

Wait... wouldn't that comparison make more sense if the WiiU would have 12 months of sales just like the GC?

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

fabricated backlash said:
Wait... wouldn't that comparison make more sense if the WiiU would have 12 months of sales just like the GC?

You want 12 months comparison?

Q1 < 500.000
H1 < 1.000.000
CY < 5.000.000

fabricated backlash · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
You want 12 months comparison?

Q1 < 500.000
H1 < 1.000.000
CY < 5.000.000

But didn't the GC sell 1.7 million SW in it's first 12 months or am I reading this wrong?

serplux · Apr 20, 2013

fabricated backlash said:
But didn't the GC sell 1.7 million SW in it's first 12 months or am I reading this wrong?

GameCube released in September of 2001, so it had four months of sales.

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

fabricated backlash said:
But didn't the GC sell 1.7 million SW in it's first 12 months or am I reading this wrong?

If Wii U sold 0,9 million SW in it's first 12 months yes

jimmypython · Apr 20, 2013

Is it time for another round of SCEJ Kawano direct for Vita??

Nekki · Apr 20, 2013

toleoring said:
Is it time for another round of SCEJ Kawano direct for Vita??

Those come every six to eight months, so nope.

DaBoss · Apr 20, 2013

What is the software schedule for Vita for the rest of the year? I can only remember God Eater 2 and FFX-HD as the biggest games unreleased so far.

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

DaBoss said:
What is the software schedule for Vita for the rest of the year? I can only remember God Eater 2 and FFX-HD as the biggest games unreleased so far.

6/27 Toukiden(also coming to the PSP)
7/11 Ragnarok Odyssey Ace(also coming to the PS3)
7/25 Dragon's Crown(also coming to the PS3)

Tales of Festival is on June 1st so we'll probably see a Tales of the Tempest R announcement or something.

ohlawd · Apr 20, 2013

Sandfox said:
Toukiden(also coming to the PSP)
Ragnarok Odyssey Ace(also coming to the PS3)
Dragon's Crown(also coming to the PS3)

Tales of Festival is on June 1st so we'll probably see a Tales of the Tempest R announcement or something.

Is Tales of the Tempest R guaranteed to be the next Tales Vita game?

frankie_baby · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
Is Tales of the Tempest R guaranteed to be the next Tales Vita game?

only if namco are desperate for another bomba

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
Is Tales of the Tempest R guaranteed to be the next Tales Vita game?

They've hinted at it pretty heavily. The Vita may get additional spinoffs as well announced though.

Hero of Legend · Apr 20, 2013

I still say Tempest R should be given to Dimps and put on 3DS, 7th Chord were the main folks behind the previous remakes (and got help from others, I think one was Digital Works).

Maybe if the original dev did the remake and they tried it on 3DS it might get better reception and better sales.

Also I just want some Dimps and Tales goodness on 3DS. I believe they can fix whatever were the issues in the DS game. Watching the game on YT, and to me the game looks very playable and actually pretty great looking graphically on DS.

Road · Apr 20, 2013

If Namco wants so much to put another Tales game on the Vita, I think it might be better to just make the next one PS3-Vita. Unless these companies are making these remakes for one ramen dish per worker per day, I think a port would be cheaper, no?

Gianni Merryman said:
So do you think this is good?
What may we expect for first week? Over 600k?
I guess we don't have any reliable shipments extimations, so I know everybody's guess is good as mine.

As far as I'm concerned I think it will break the first million mark in a couple of weeks.

The blog said if it kept the same pace of the first day it could do 3x to 4x times what the previous one did, or 300k to 400k. (It obviously doesn't mean it can't do 600k).

Chris1964 said:
bunch software sales

Are these all complete sales (not top 30 and stuff)? Thanks!

ohlawd · Apr 20, 2013

Sandfox said:
They've hinted at it pretty heavily. The Vita may get additional spinoffs as well announced though.

I see.

As long as Bamco ain't touching Symphonia, they can do whatever they want.

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
I see.

As long as Bamco ain't touching Symphonia, they can do whatever they want.

I'm expecting that to get a remake announced this year as well.

frankie_baby · Apr 20, 2013

Sandfox said:
I'm expecting that to get a remake announced this year as well.

for vita?

ohlawd · Apr 20, 2013

frankie_baby said:
for vita?

For one thing, I don't want a masterpiece like Symphonia bombing >_>

Just put it on 3DS or PS3 since lolVita and lolWiiU

Alrus · Apr 20, 2013

frankie_baby said:
for vita?

It would be such a stupid decision, bamco would probably do it. (or make it a Wii U exclusive).

I still don't understand why they haven't tried a few more Tales port on the 3DS after Abyss, it sold pretty decently after all(better than both the PSV remakes). And porting must be cheaper than remaking DS games, no?

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

frankie_baby said:
for vita?

Either 3DS in the same vein as Abyss or a console release with added/updated features. It really depends on what else they have planned for the year.

Chris1964 · Apr 20, 2013

Road said:
Are these all complete sales (not top 30 and stuff)? Thanks!

geimin, bttb and leaked pdfs. You should have almost all of these.

KillerMan91 · Apr 20, 2013

Pyscho_Mantis said:
PS2 was on a next level. Truly the god tier console.

It truly was. Although didn't PS1 move even more software in Japan?

zroid · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
I see.

As long as Bamco ain't touching Symphonia, they can do whatever they want.

I would buy a Symphonia remake on Vita.

<_<

not that it'd ever get localized if it were on Vita... pssst, Scamco, 3DS

Road · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
geimin, bttb and leaked pdfs. You should have almost all of these.

You're right, I searched and I think I found them.

I was confused because I misread and thought it was calendar year for WS and NGP, but it's the fiscal year.

Thanks.

Bruno MB · Apr 20, 2013

Chris1964 said:
I'm tempted to search it but this must be a new record of what early support means

[WIU] Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 2 <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.01.31} (¥8.190)
[WIU] Tank! Tank! Tank! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.21} (¥5.040)
[WIU] Need for Speed: Most Wanted U - A Criterion Game <RCE> (Electronic Arts) {2013.03.20} (¥6.615)
[WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935)
[WIU] Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980)

Even Neo Geo Pocket had more releases during the same time-frame: (Wii U from January 2013 to April 2013 - Neo Geo Pocket from December 1998 to March 1999).

Neo Geo Pocket Color would be released in March 16, 1999. I've included those games that were compatible with the old model, which were all at that time.

[NGP] Samurai Spirits! (SNK) {1998.12.25}
[NGP] Neo Cherry Master (SNK) {1998.12.25}
[NGP] King of Fighters R-2 (SNK) {1999.03.19} - Compatible with old model.
[NGP] Neo Dragon's Wild (SNK) {1999.03.19} - Compatible with old model.
[NGP] Neo Mystery Bonus (SNK) {1999.03.19} - Compatible with old model.
[NGP] Renketsu Puzzle Tsunagete Pon! Color {1999.03.19} - Compatible with old model.
[NGP] Puzzle Bobble Mini (SNK) {1999.03.26} - Compatible with old model.

Re-releases for Neo Geo Pocket Color (same games, just with colors)

[NGP] Baseball Color (SNK) {1999.03.19}
[NGP] Neo Cherry Master Color (SNK) {1999.03.19}
[NGP] Pocket Tennis Color (SNK) {1999.03.19}
[NGP] Shogi no Tatsujin Color (SNK) {1999.03.19}

Soriku · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
For one thing, I don't want a masterpiece like Symphonia bombing >_>

Just put it on 3DS or PS3 since lolVita and lolWiiU

PS3? That just feels dirty

ohlawd · Apr 20, 2013

Soriku said:
PS3? That just feels dirty

It won't bomb on the PS3 doe. That's the point

serplux · Apr 20, 2013

Soriku said:
PS3? That just feels dirty

It was released for the PS2 in Japan. So...we've already had that betrayalthon.

zroid · Apr 20, 2013

never mind I am dumb

Sandfox · Apr 20, 2013

ohlawd said:
It won't bomb on the PS3 doe. That's the point

It could bomb on the PS3...

fabricated backlash · Apr 20, 2013

serplux said:
GameCube released in September of 2001, so it had four months of sales.

Ah now I get it thanks... was confused by the 01.01. date up there.

Thx for the clarification

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