...Some people would probably get mad at this comment, but hey I'm happy if more people branch out to the other games as well.
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...Some people would probably get mad at this comment, but hey I'm happy if more people branch out to the other games as well.
Persona 4 Golden also had the benefit of launching close to the cartoon.
But someone made a post almost exactly like that earlier lol. I seriously feel it to be true. :/ also Persona is SMT too so there's that! This SMT looks in a way like Persona too. Well to me. It's cute the clothes/customization. Looks way less dark and more accessible this time around.
That's kinda true but its not like the series were ever all that far from each other sales-wise.
Glass Rebel
Member
not in Japan tho
Magicpaint
Member
SMT made Persona
so at best it's a symbiotic relationship. Anyway, Nocturne sold pretty well (the last main numbered installment) already, so if IV does just as well well, it's continuing tradition, no?Post SMT and Persona 3/4 sales plz?
if you have them that is SMT looks so good, I never checked for the other games till now.
michaelius
Banned
I never understood why some SMT fans are upset about Persona popularity.
Because the spin off became more popular than the main game. It's not a biggy. Persona just became more appealing to people when 3/4 came out. This gave SMT more promo imo
Post SMT and Persona 3/4 sales plz?
SMTIII: 245,520
Persona 3: 210,319
Persona 3 FES: 165,471
Persoan 3 Portable: 208,877
Persona 4: 294,214
Persona 4 Golden: 229,044
No LTD? ;_;
Glass Rebel
Member
More success means higher priority and bigger budgets. Compare the battle systems of Persona 4 and SMT4 for example.
These are Japanese LTD numbers.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18043866&postcount=41
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PS2 Persona 4 10/07/08 192.812 314.835
PS2 Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne 20/02/03 184.700 219.700
PS2 Persona 3 13/07/06 116.682 196.008
PS2 Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 15/07/04 92.216 92.216
PS2 Persona 3: Fes 19/04/07 90.369 146.575
PS2 Devil Summoner 2: Raidou Kuzunoha Vs. King Abaddon 23/10/08 88.257 119.468
PSP Persona 29/04/09 79.192 93.453
NDS Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard 21/02/08 68.913 134.347
PS2 Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha Vs. The Soulless Army 02/03/06 63.833 86.552
NDS Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor 15/01/09 55.466 73.726
PS2 Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 2 27/01/05 51.246 51.246
PS2 Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne Maniax 29/01/04 37.400 47.900
NDS Etrian Odyssey 18/01/07 32.511 94.951
PSP Devil Summomer 22/12/05 13.000 13.000Mess. I was thinking WW for some reason so was expecting numbers in the millions.
Thank you for the numbers guys
michaelius
Banned
They are diffrent now ? Nocturne was very similar to P3/P4 from what i remeber.
I haven't watched any SMT4 gameplay trailer - only intro/story one.
I haven't watched any SMT4 gameplay trailer - only intro/story one.
The fact tat Atlus got so many sales out of Persona 3 is amazing but I guess that just shows how popular that specific game was in Japan.
Persona will never sell that well.
Persona will never sell that well.
Nocturne is not similar to P3/P4 at all lol.
Glass Rebel
Member
These are Japanese only numbers as well :lol
The only thing I could find about WW sales were Persona 4 NA numbers (110k) from Siliconera but I'm not exactly sure what their source is.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
What about worldwide? I am sure Persona is more popular.
Persona 4 broke 300k wow.
Is Persona now Atlus' biggest gaming franchise?
Financial reports probably.
I know. But I was curious about the other games as well. Very nice :3 you are all very helpful. SMT deserves all the good sales.
Magicpaint
Member
Of course.
Yeah, I didn't want to sound surprised, but just underline this shift. Add also the Digimon developments, and you'll have a very clear idea of the NB and of the general "manga-anime" tie-in coming to the console. I remember that few months ago we were wondering if or when the PSP heritage would have come to the 3DS.
I'm sure Persona is bigger WW but I think it would have more to do with SMT series doing ehh than the Persona series doing well(and IMO it did pretty ok).
I'm sure that Persona is Atlus' biggest franchise now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56788826&postcount=10
In US at least:
SMT: Devil Summoner - 43k
SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1 - 51k
SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2 - 43k
SMT: Nocturne - 60k
Persona 4 also sold 110k and Devil Survivor sold 40k according to Siliconera.
Also we know Soul Hackers on 3DS was somewhere above 21k according to NPD (first month), might be like 30k. I'm expecting SMT IV to sell better than Nocturne in US.
Palette Swap
Member
Kind of amazing for a franchise that hasn't had a proper new entry in 5 years. I guess it goes to show how effective they've been at keeping that flame alive/milking it/blueballing us depending on the way you choose to see it. Hell, even these P4G numbers on a console that's not doing too hot indicate pent-up demand.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yessssss! Praise the lord! It deserves it. Persona's characters, art style, gameplay and music was such a breath of fresh air in the jrpg genre.
The music imo are simply some of the best in gaming and Soejima's art style is godlike.
The SMT series in general is a breath of fresh air in JRPGs. Also Meguro has done great work on other SMT game OSTs besides Persona, as well as other composers.
praise ha yasss.
SMT shall rise. I hope SMT4 sales are steady for a few weeks and doesn't drop
I'm not trying to discredit Persona or anything but the only real competition it has is EO and SMT.
Palette Swap
Member
Definitely. The fact Atlus is pretty much its own competition in different flavors of the dungeon crawler niche is interesting in the sense that they've managed to keep this niche alive so well.
To an extent, Chun does the same with the Mystery Dungeon series (although being attached to so many big franchises probably helped a lot).
Well, certainly being attached to Pokémon helps a lot
...But they should reconsider the length of dialogues. They were ridicolously long and not interesting in the Gates to Infinity's demo. Damn.
Glass Rebel
Member
I wonder how many people didn't get P4 because it was released on PS2 in 2008. If it was a sizeable amount I could definitely see it happening but P4 is the best-selling entry...
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I've been trying to get into the SMT series but I don't have the time right now, and the only way I can play on a ps2 is through my cousin and he took it with him to uni :/
I really think Sony should get Atlus to release P5 on PS4 and PS3 so they can build a base for the next one. I mean at this rate P6 is going to come out in 2016 (assuming they are going to follow the P3/P4 dev time) on the PS3....thats just absurd.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Won't this be the same, unless the game comes out this year or early next year it will be in a similar position of releasing in last gen's hardware when next gen if in full swing (the ps2 also sold a heck of a lot more than the ps3).
Palette Swap
Member
It might even be in a worse position, considering PS3 offered BC while PS4 won't.
Glass Rebel
Member
I think that the PS3 only needed to sell to the "right" people and as far as "core gamers" go, the PS3 is definitely the home console of choice. I just hope they can get it out by the end of 2014.
I didn't consider this but then again...
this is a good point as well.
Palette Swap
Member
Considering they apparently did a bit more than 500k in Japan, that's almost equivalent to saying they did as well abroad as in Japan. That seems bold.
Holy market contraction, Batman!
I was under the impression their franchises had sustained the transition from last gen to this gen pretty well but it seems the previous transition hurt them pretty bad. Were all Sat/PS1 Megaten titles in that ballpark?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Iirc pretty much every jrpg contracted after the PS1 era. For some reason they sold amazingly on PS1. (correct me if I am wrong though)
Hero of Legend
Member
I'm floored by the amount of 3DS support by Namco Bandai, especially Bandai, I'm going to make a list of all their known titles.
Bandai:
Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission
One Piece: Unlimited World R
One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP
One Piece: Romance Dawn
Tamagotchi DS09
Tamagotchi DS10
Tamagotchi DS11
Digimon World: ReDigitize decode
Gundam 3D Battle
SD Gundam G Generation 3D
Gon Baku Baku Baku Baku Adventure
Grampa Danger
Naruto Powerful Shippuden
Pre-Cure 3DS
Pre-Cure 3DS 2
Super Sentai 3DS
Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist
Toriko Gourmet Monsters
Toriko Gourmet ga Battle
Detective Conan
Magi and the Lost Labyrinth
Aikatsu 3DS
Run For Money
Dual Pen Sports
Namco:
Taiko
Taiko Spin-off ported from Wii
Tales of the Abyss
Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy
Tekken 3D: Prime Edition
Pac-Man & Galaga Dimensions
Pac-Man Party 3D
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures
Ridge Racer 3D
Kuma Tomo
Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life
Famista 2011
Banpresto:
Project X Zone
Lost Heroes
Super Robot Wars UX
Brave Company
Crayon Shin-Chan
That MIGHT be all of them, including upcoming ones.
MOTHER OF GOD @ Bandai. O_O
Bandai:
Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission
One Piece: Unlimited World R
One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP
One Piece: Romance Dawn
Tamagotchi DS09
Tamagotchi DS10
Tamagotchi DS11
Digimon World: ReDigitize decode
Gundam 3D Battle
SD Gundam G Generation 3D
Gon Baku Baku Baku Baku Adventure
Grampa Danger
Naruto Powerful Shippuden
Pre-Cure 3DS
Pre-Cure 3DS 2
Super Sentai 3DS
Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist
Toriko Gourmet Monsters
Toriko Gourmet ga Battle
Detective Conan
Magi and the Lost Labyrinth
Aikatsu 3DS
Run For Money
Dual Pen Sports
Namco:
Taiko
Taiko Spin-off ported from Wii
Tales of the Abyss
Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy
Tekken 3D: Prime Edition
Pac-Man & Galaga Dimensions
Pac-Man Party 3D
Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures
Ridge Racer 3D
Kuma Tomo
Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life
Famista 2011
Banpresto:
Project X Zone
Lost Heroes
Super Robot Wars UX
Brave Company
Crayon Shin-Chan
That MIGHT be all of them, including upcoming ones.
MOTHER OF GOD @ Bandai. O_O
They're also decidedly not that relevant outside of Japan, so the incentive to make everything for 3DS is extremely high given it's the runaway winner in the region they make most of their money in.
Hero of Legend
Member
But the PSP got by far the lion's share of their support last gen right?