Your comparison makes no sense, you should compare it to the PS3/Vita release.
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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2015 (May 11 - May 17)
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Your comparison makes no sense, you should compare it to the PS3/Vita release.
In the end, only one of the versions would be successful. I am only stating this is probably why the ps4 version bombed. By doing it this way, they sabotaged the sales of the PS4 version. That is all I am getting at. Square tried getting people to double dip and it did not work.
you are 100% correct, and that is exactly why we just witnessed this game bomb.
Codename Steam is a typical case of a Japanese developer failing at trying to make a game that appeals to the American/western audience. It has an artstyle that the developers consider "western", when in fact it is just ugly and not appealing to anyone. It's a shame, since Steam is a solid game that definitely deserved a lot better than this. Instead it's bomb literally everywhere in the world. Quite sad, really. Makes me wonder how much it could have sold if it didn't look so damn ugly.
I'm sure FFX HD on PS4 will more than cover its production costs based on worldwide sales. It also now is on every PS platform so you can choose which one you prefer. On top of that if you bought it on PS3 before, this time if you buy it on PS4 you can play it on Vita with remote play too for free. And, unlike a lot of remasters, they were all physical releases so you never have to worry about losing access.
Basically it's one of the least anti-consumer releases in recent times lol.
Moor-Angol
Banned
before dooming the japanese market, you know how many games were released last week ?
a port of a port of a 15 years old PS2 game, a game who anyone was interested in it, even Nintendo, which didn't market at all, a compilation of 2 western games
so now you think that people will get crazy and running into shops to buy consoles with such a release list ?
ok, japan market is not in good condition, but all those "my god japan is doomed" posts are non-sense
Minecraft Vita
Style Savvy
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| | Minecraft PSVita | |
| | [PSV] (2015/03/19)| |
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Variation |
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 36.151| 36.151| //|
| 2 | 21.069| 57.220| -42%|
| 3 | 15.880| 73.100| -25%|
| 4 | 11.842| 84.942| -25%|
| 5 | 12.175| 97.117| +3%|
| 6 | 12.667| 109.784| +4%|
| 7 | 16.166| 125.951| +28%|
| 8 | 18.025| 143.976| +12%|
| 9 | 11.303| 155.278| -37%|
|----|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -| 155.278| |
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| | Style Savvy 3 | Style Savvy 2 | Difference |
| | [3DS] (2015/04/16)| [3DS] (2012/09/27)| |
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|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | SS3 SS2 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 1 | 55.179| 55.179| 65.908| 65.908| -10.729|
| 2 | 23.724| 78.903| 34.288| 100.196| -21.293|
| 3 | 20.103| 99.007| 22.195| 122.391| -23.384|
| 4 | 21.764| 120.791| 14.282| 136.672| -15.881|
| 5 | 7.422| 128.213| 11.446| 148.119| -19.906|
| 6 | | | 9.699| 157.818| |
| 7 | | | 8.599| 166.416| |
| 8 | | | 6.696| 173.113| |
| 9 | | | 7.364| 180.476| |
| 10 | | | 7.528| 188.005| |
| 11 | | | 11.286| 199.291| |
| 12 | | | 17.179| 216.470| |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total -| 128.213| -| 381.000| -252.787|
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Interfectum
Member
before dooming the japanese market, you know how many games were released last week ?
a port of a port of a 15 years old PS2 game, a game who anyone was interested in it, even Nintendo, which didn't market at all, a compilation of 2 western games
so now you think that people will get crazy and running into shops to buy consoles with such a release list ?
ok, japan market is not in good condition, but all those "my god japan is doomed" posts are non-sense
Japan isn't doomed but the console industry in Japan is.
I see. We'll just have to see what they actually put out in the future then.
Wow what a disaster
Nintendo IP? No need to even go there, it's a worse debut than pretty much every XB1 game so far, and worse than most 360 and Xbox games.
Must be Nintendo's biggest bomb in like a decade. Not surprising as it looks very unapealing.
Firestorm ZERO
Member
The big ones I believe are...
May 21 Witcher 3 (Is Witcher popular in Japan?)
May 28 Psycho-Pass (xbone bump?)
May 28 Splatoon
May 28 Miku Mirai DX
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
then you wonder why Intelligent systems split Fire Emblem If into 3 parts. Gotta make back that STEAMing mistake they seemed to have made
every machine is down YTD with the exception of the XB1 since it wasn't out this time last year.
Either these machines are being sold at too high a cost for current japanese consumer tastes or they're just simply not as interested in what they have to offer anymore. What we're seeing is another transition: It was first that the money was in portable games so the major console games started going into a decline. Now, the shift is from portables to mobiles, further detaching the average japanese consumer from the console market.
really, you wonder why Microsoft even bothered in japan. They have no major portable to fend for over there and the console market has been pretty much in the doldrums since the Wii tailed off half a decade ago. it just seems like throwing money into a burning garbage can.
every machine is down YTD with the exception of the XB1 since it wasn't out this time last year.
Either these machines are being sold at too high a cost for current japanese consumer tastes or they're just simply not as interested in what they have to offer anymore. What we're seeing is another transition: It was first that the money was in portable games so the major console games started going into a decline. Now, the shift is from portables to mobiles, further detaching the average japanese consumer from the console market.
really, you wonder why Microsoft even bothered in japan. They have no major portable to fend for over there and the console market has been pretty much in the doldrums since the Wii tailed off half a decade ago. it just seems like throwing money into a burning garbage can.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Because FF X HD was already released on the major platforms in Japan last year (or was it 2013?) and Xenoblade X is the first portable remake after the title originated on Wii. One is not like the other at all.
Moor-Angol
Banned
There's still Fire Emblem If coming in June(?) and we may see a new first party title somewhere down the line, like last year with Pokemon ORAS.
Pretty sure that delay's only for the Western release.
Not the PS4.
djplaeskool
Member
before dooming the japanese market, you know how many games were released last week ?
a port of a port of a 15 years old PS2 game, a game who anyone was interested in it, even Nintendo, which didn't market at all, a compilation of 2 western games
so now you think that people will get crazy and running into shops to buy consoles with such a release list ?
ok, japan market is not in good condition, but all those "my god japan is doomed" posts are non-sense
Okay let me fix that. If it wasn't for the West, Japanese developers would have no reason for console development and would be better off focusing only on mobile/handheld.
At least, the n3DS bought Iwata that extra 9+ months he wanted...
Honestly, even with the western market, they're better off just making mobile games. That's why a ton of the talent pool has bailed towards that. The only reason to keep making console games is because you actually like making them despite the decline in profits.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Japan needs to start breeding ASAP; no new kids = declining sales!
Just kidding, the kids would be raised on mobile platforms anyway.
test_account
XP-39C²
Sad to see STEAM (and games in general for that matter) sell that little. Much really suck for the developers.
Arent there only two versions?
Bruno MB
Member
There has to be more Nintendo published games with a worse debut, for example bit Generations series had very low sales.
[GBA] bit Generations: Dotstream (Nintendo) {2006.07.13} - 3.499 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Coloris (Nintendo) {2006.07.27} - 2.033 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Orbital (Nintendo) {2006.07.27} - 1.833 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Soundvoyager (Nintendo) {2006.07.27} - 1.620 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Dialhex (Nintendo) {2006.07.13} - 1.607 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Boundish (Nintendo) {2006.07.13} - 1.199 / NEW
[GBA] bit Generations: Digidrive (Nintendo) {2006.07.27} - 1.016 / NEW
Kotetsu534
Member
So this is what a dying market looks like - 20-30% YoY declines. Ugly stuff. And once Konami and Sega get MGS V and Persona 5 out and set sail for good there will be very little of significance coming to consoles from Japan beyond Nintendo and Square (both increasingly focussed on the west).
Even though this week in itself is obviously not significant, seeing such awful sales brings home how established the mobile transition really is. I really hope Nintendo do a good job with their next handheld.
They released 3 on the same week, and another 4 two weeks after that. As a new IP, it was already way more successful than Codename STEAM. Lol.
Smiles and Cries
Member
What is so fun?
Your fact is not fun, your fact is sad.
I'm pretty sure Atlus will continue to develop console games, Capcom has Street Fighter, deep down, dragon's dogma.
There will be more Japanese games, just expect more mobile games as well.
The last console game Atlus developed was released in 2011. The next one doesn't have a date yet. Wow, what a console powerhouse.
On this note we might see an increasingly large portion of remaining console development go f2p as companies run out of games to remaster.
astrogamer
Member
This week is Witcher 3
Next week is Splatoon, Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX, and Cross Ange
June 4 is Stella Glow, Atelier Rorona 3DS, Natsuiro High School
June 11 is Rhythm Heaven The Best+, Alien Isolation, Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden
June 18 is Harvest Moon x Popoplocrois, DMC4 PS4,
June 25 is Fire Emblem If, Chaos;Child, IA/VT -COLORFUL-, Idolmaster Cinderella Girls pack 2 and P4 Dancing All Night with FFXIV: Heavensward on the 23
July 9 is Ace Attorney, Taiko Vita with Yokai Watch Busters on July 11