I meant the end of the year predictions for games
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Media Create Sales: Week 32, 2013 (Aug 05 - Aug 11)
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I meant the end of the year predictions for games
BishopLamont
Banned
Taiko should just go multiplatform, I don't see any downsides besides higher development cost which would be offset by better sales and the fact they they like to release Taiko on most platforms already anyway. The casual market is split between many platforms.
What alternative revenue stream does Crytek have? I've always wondered how they survive when their games don't even sell that much.
No it wouldn't. If Taiko is on Wii U and not PS3, it'll only be because of the Wii versions' success and the potential higher sales for the series when the Wii U userbase gets bigger.
michaelius
Banned
They can always port it later.
And it might be upgrade of Wii version like DQX Wii U anyway
And it might be upgrade of Wii version like DQX Wii U anyway
Middleware. They license their latest version of Crytek Engines to other devs.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Taiko games chart for months, and that's not happening on PS3. Plus, Taiko appeals to kids too, not just families and casuals. That audience is non existent on PS3.
BishopLamont
Banned
Oh right, so obvious.
Do you think the Wii U is capable of selling Taiko for months right now? You're better off advocating for a Wii version instead, but then we'd be back to the MH3G situation and the PSP, you have to move on sometime.
Sammy Samusu
Member
If things go right this holiday season, yes. It will grow with the install base.
Well, if we go by Nintendoland, also a party game, which is still charting... It could happen.
And i think Taiko is already multiplataform. You have PSP versions, 3DS versions, Wii versions... The series never was locked on a single platform. If people wants a Taiko fix, they got plenty of opportunities. If what you meant was a PS3 version, well, i don't think there would be a problem releasing it. Namco probably never found it to be viable.
And i think Taiko is already multiplataform. You have PSP versions, 3DS versions, Wii versions... The series never was locked on a single platform. If people wants a Taiko fix, they got plenty of opportunities. If what you meant was a PS3 version, well, i don't think there would be a problem releasing it. Namco probably never found it to be viable.
BishopLamont
Banned
I was talking more about multiplatform at release for each release, not staggered releases for each platform, I mean people buy sequels by the dozens already. It'd just make things easier for them.
Well Bandai is probably the biggest third party to benefit from a Wii U success and with next-gen systems not even out yet, its a no brainer what platform they'll release it on. I just think a PS3 would be worth it for them on top of a Wii U version. In general, big third party casual games should try to establish themselves on every platform, just so they can minimize the risk when a new gen start, they'll be able to find a market regardless which platforms succeed.
Hero of Legend
Member
Namco, that's the side behind Taiko. XD
BishopLamont
Banned
Well thats like blaming Enix for DQ browser games lol
MGR was a success, so hopefully Konami has their backs.
Really? I thought they usually got a cut of the sales.
Generally independent developers have contracts that are one of the following:
1.) Completion bonus (and maybe metacritic bonus), no royalties.
2.) Completion bonus (and maybe metacritic bonus), royalties start after the publisher has completely made back development + marketing costs + return fee insurance + X amount of profit, and then they get some really low percentage. Basically this is so stacked against the developer that they're not going to get anything in 90%+ of cases, and if they do, they get very little.
There are exceptions to this, but it's for mega-indie studios like Epic, Respawn, and Bungie who can negotiate excellent deals because they sell millions upon millions of copies.
Aquamarine
Member
Most of the time, third-party studios under the auspices of a publisher get paid a set amount for development.
It's favorable for the publisher because it requires them to constantly be looking for new work, instead of coasting for years on one massively-successful title (like Mojang and Minecraft).
The reward if their game is successful is more contracts with the same publisher and various bonuses.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
I'm suprised by people's surprise about W101 sales.
Just look at the sales of externally-developed new IPs from Nintendo on Wii. Takt of Magic, Captain Rainbow, Disaster Day of Crisis, Pandora's Tower, Endless Ocean and Zangeki no Reginleiv are all under 50k LTD. Xenoblade and Last Story were the only ones to have decent sales, but those have much broader appeal
Just look at the sales of externally-developed new IPs from Nintendo on Wii. Takt of Magic, Captain Rainbow, Disaster Day of Crisis, Pandora's Tower, Endless Ocean and Zangeki no Reginleiv are all under 50k LTD. Xenoblade and Last Story were the only ones to have decent sales, but those have much broader appeal
distantmantra
Member
Taiko is running on the PS3 already as a mini game in Ryu ga Gotoku 5, so the engine exists in some form.
michaelius
Banned
Still no first day sell through numbers ?
Monster Hunter 4 download cards now on sale?
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/08/20/69584.html
Will these be in next week's Famitsu numbers?!
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/08/20/69584.html
Will these be in next week's Famitsu numbers?!
I think there were no releases last week.
Wait what? Why is it available now?
test_account
XP-39C²
Well, we havnt really seen how much W101 has sold yet, only what the retailers have ordered. I'm not sure if Nintendo has the same sales expectations for The Wonderful 101 compared to the games that you listed though. W101 is said to have a bigger budget than Bayonetta, so it isnt exactly a small budget game. W101 also have TV commercials (although i dont know if any of the other games had that or not), and the WiiU hasnt exactly seem many game releases on it yet.
In what probably isn't surprising news, the PS4 won't launch in Japan this year: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=656560
Sad times for consoles in Japan. It's now the land of handhelds and smartphones.
metalslimer
Member
And they shouldn't launch this year. They are smart not to end up like vita and wiiu selling 10k a month in
Glass Rebel
Member
So they have practically nothing for the Japanese market this year, leaving it all to Nintendo.
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Sammy Samusu
Member
Sony did the right thing here. At least someone is learning from past mistakes.
wth the thirst
metalslimer
Member
They have the ps3 which will be 2nd this holiday behind 3DS which is good considering this will be ps3's 8th holiday
metalslimer
Member
Damn neogaf errors
Sammy Samusu
Member
DP
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Sometimes they get paid on a sliding milestone scale, if they miss a milestone or are late it can affect overall payment, as well.
And I wouldn't worry too much about Platinum, they likely don't cost as much as you think and have never been big sellers anyway. Not even close.
And I wouldn't worry too much about Platinum, they likely don't cost as much as you think and have never been big sellers anyway. Not even close.
leatherhat
Member
Smart idea, wait til next year and launch with Yakuza. Plus MGSV and FF15 will likely not be that far off.
Hero of Legend
Member
Is Famitsu's magazine out this week? Oban likely kept it from coming out last week, and that's over right?
vicissitudes
Banned
No it won't. WiiU will have a strong lineup and Nintendo consoles typically do better during holidays. It will probably be 3DS > WiiU > Vita > PS3.
It's just amazing that we're seeing PS4 releasing in places like Brazil and Peru before Japan... It's unbelievable. Wiiu still wasn't released in Brazil, for christ sake.
I know with that lineup it would be a dumb thing to do, but it's not like that ever mattered. I guess they are learning from their past mistakes, but it also makes me a little sad. To see Japan neglected like this is a damn shame. Specially because it seems i will not get a PS4 this year. :\
I know with that lineup it would be a dumb thing to do, but it's not like that ever mattered. I guess they are learning from their past mistakes, but it also makes me a little sad. To see Japan neglected like this is a damn shame. Specially because it seems i will not get a PS4 this year. :\
Glass Rebel
Member
That's more saying about places 3 and below though.
metalslimer
Member
We'll see, and lol at vita doing better than ps3 with the lineup it has
Don't worry, Japan will be tier 1 again when the whole world is united in smartphone gaming.
Yes, it is. Obon, by the way. =P
Hero of Legend
Member
For the people that think Taiko for PS3 is less riskier than Wii U, are you guys forgetting the Taiko drum controller for Wii that will most likely be usable for Wii U? If Bamco were to make a PS3 version they'd have to engineer another piece of hardware for another system just for a single game series.
If someone already bought one for one system, I highly doubt they'd buy another one just so they can play it on the other system especially since we're nearing the end of the generation.
If someone already bought one for one system, I highly doubt they'd buy another one just so they can play it on the other system especially since we're nearing the end of the generation.
Yeah, we'll see - but the PS3 has been selling horribly this year in terms of hardware. We're at Week 32, and the PS3 is barely over 500k for the year, and is down 25% YOY - and it was only selling like 50k/wk during the holidays last year. And I don't see much in the software lineup that won't be selling to the same base of customers that already owns a PS3.
Whatever place it finishes in for the holiday season - it won't be putting up good numbers.
test_account
XP-39C²
What is the strong lineup for WiiU?
Glass Rebel
Member
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Wii Fit U (lol)
Wii Party U (lol)
Super Mario 3D World
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
Don't know if it was posted but Dynasty Warriors 8:Xtreme Legends was announced for PS3/Vita.
Cross save nd cross play.
Releasing November 28.
Also W101 got 39/40 in Famitsu and JoJo a perfect 40/40.
Cross save nd cross play.
Releasing November 28.
Also W101 got 39/40 in Famitsu and JoJo a perfect 40/40.
A console with no real killer-app has no place in stores. Wise decision.
release near or day/date with FF15, MGS or KH3 and you are all set.