You took the sales of the worst selling Layton and use them as baseline for the series. Layton 6 sales are the reason we won't see the same Layton again.
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Media Create Sales: Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)
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You took the sales of the worst selling Layton and use them as baseline for the series. Layton 6 sales are the reason we won't see the same Layton again.
It should have been on the 3DS in the first place. I really don't understand that decision to put it on the Wii U.
Maybe it's a F2P social card game with microtransactions and online.
metalslimer
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You....you monster
Glass Rebel
Member
Nintendo Logic:
If Fire Emblem sells 500k and SMT IV sells 240k, SMTxFE will break 700k
on Wii U
Brainiac 8
Member
The WiiU needs games to boost sales.
The 3DS does not.
(Although it would fit more as a portable title than a console one)
Exterminieren
Banned
PL x AA was neither fish nor fowl, in fairness. It wasn't a very good Phoenix Wright game, it wasn't a very good Layton game... it sorta fell between the two stools, which didn't help at all.
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Pretty much.
The Wii U needs bigger games to boost sales, not a crossover game of two series that haven't seen entries on the console and would likely give it a small marginal boost.
It would fit better on 3DS due to both series that have had their most recent entries on the 3DS.
What if they announce a FE:A/SMT IV port to Wii U?
KillerTravis
Banned
Nah, I'm sure IntSys just wanted to make a new FE for Wii U, asked Atlus for help and they said it would be perfect to combine Fire Emblem and SMT and bring it to a modern setting.
strangedopamine
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Prediction League September, 2013
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Aug 26 to Sep 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2,455,000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 480,000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 110,500
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 33,333
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 91,000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 90,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 44,500
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 500,001
Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Aug 26 to Sep 29):
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (16 days) - 2,455,000
[PS3] JoJo's All Star Battle (32 days) - 480,000
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV ARR (34 days) - 110,500
[PS3+360] Lost Planet 3 (32 days) - 33,333
[PS3+PSV] Sen no Kiseki (4 days) - 91,000
[WIU] Zelda Wind Waker HD (4 days) - 90,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience Wars (4 days) - 44,500
[3DS] Hardware (35 days) - 500,001
metalslimer
Member
Im kind of starting to worry how wwhd will perform. Could 250k ltd be too lofty?
I'm not even sure if it'll do over 100k. Zelda on consoles have been on a straight decline in Japan, and this is nothing more than an enhanced port as far as content goes. I don't see why it would sell well at all.
Wind Waker GC - 742,609
Twilight Princess Wii - 552,476
Skyward Sword Wii - 297,441
At this point I honestly believe that porting Wind Waker to the 3DS would result in higher sales.
No way it reaches 250k.
Hell, I'm with duckroll here. I'd be surprised if it reaches 100k.
I'd say so.
I think it will do fine, higher than most the predictions here. Even if it's a remake it's the first easily recognizable Nintendo franchise on the console since launch. I'm thinking higher opening than Pikmin for sure.
Glass Rebel
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The three Wii U owners who want to play FE and SMT but don't want a 3DS will lose their shit.
We know how this was conceived from some interviews. That doesn't change the fact that it's baffling how they came to the conclusion that this would have any meaningful impact on the Wii U. They already said that a Fire Emblem game on Wii U would have to sell 700k units to be worth the effort. It just sounds like someone thought "this would be neat" with no regards for sales potential or what the console needs.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well, it was also announced back when people still had optimism for the future of Wii U.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yes.SS only did 300k and this is a remake on the WiiU.
The biggest worry for SMT x FE is if its a game that doesn't quite please FE fans and SMT fans. The respective rpgs are quite different and I am interested into to seeing what kind of the rpg the end product is.
The issue is that Zelda on consoles doesn't mean much to Japan anymore. If you think Pikmin 3's 95k opening on WiiU is bad, let's refresh some memories: Skyward Sword's opening on the Wii with a much larger userbase and as a brand new long awaited Zelda title.... was something like 195k.
I'm not even sure if it'll do over 100k. Zelda on consoles have been on a straight decline in Japan, and this is nothing more than an enhanced port as far as content goes. I don't see why it would sell well at all.
Wind Waker GC - 742,609
Twilight Princess Wii - 552,476
Skyward Sword Wii - 297,441
At this point I honestly believe that porting Wind Waker to the 3DS would result in higher sales.
I'm personally thinking Wind Waker does maybe 120-150K but it takes a while. Also when I read the bolded I was like "no duh"... I honestly don't think there's any Wii U game that wouldn't do better on 3DS. It'd mean compromising the vision a whole lot but even Wonderful 101, X and Bayo 2 would do better on 3DS. I'd probably say that even if Wii U was relatively healthy.
That spot is reserved for Majora's Mask.I'm not even sure if it'll do over 100k. Zelda on consoles have been on a straight decline in Japan, and this is nothing more than an enhanced port as far as content goes. I don't see why it would sell well at all.
Wind Waker GC - 742,609
Twilight Princess Wii - 552,476
Skyward Sword Wii - 297,441
At this point I honestly believe that porting Wind Waker to the 3DS would result in higher sales.
I meant higher sales than what new Zelda titles sell on console. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I think a Wind Waker on 3DS could outsell Skyward Sword, and maybe even Twilight Princess. OoT 3D already outsold Skyward Sword, and that's a touched up version of a N64 game. The handheld touch control Zelda which people looooooove to haaaate also sell far more than what console Zelda do in Japan. It's a pretty clear demographic shift for the brand.
Bald Cleft
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2012- Top 500 Media Create
WWHD does not require wii motion plus.
WWHD does not require wii motion plus.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
No but it requires a Wii U.
Oh yeah that's makes sense. Is OOT as revered in Japan as the west though? It's not just a Zelda game; it's the Zelda game. It's an interesting trend as well because the handheld Zeldas don't have anywhere close to the production values of the console entries. Console Zelda is probably the only AAA game Nintendo makes.
1st Course
Member
I expect 100-150k personally.
I don't think it will do 200k+, even KH HD barley sold that much.
Glass Rebel
Member
I think OoT3D might have outsold TP as well. MC had it at 558'496 in their 2012 Top 500 list
With WW remake and A Link Between Worlds, I'm just glad to see the Zelda team move away from their Ocarina-itis. Next mainline Zelda should be a WiiU/3DS combo ala Smash Bros.
The more I look at the new Smash, the more I think it's a mistake for it to be on 3DS, at least day and date with the Wii U version. It's going to look way more attractive for the multitude of 3DS owners to spring for it, rather than the few Wii U owners to.
I'd wager the same would happen with a platform combo with Zelda.
The Wii U needs all the games it can get for itself, the thing is practically nonexistent.
There are at least 3,084,343 Wii Motion Pluses in Japan thanks to Wii Sports Resort. That's more than there are Wii Us.
I own both a Wii U and a 3DS and feel more attracted to the 3DS version, myself. Really a bad decision from their part.
The lack of games on WiiU surely helped a lot so far those who get released.
WWHD > Pikmin 3, now that's something I want to see.
Hmmm... I see what you mean. But I still think it'll be a success on both hardware. NCL's problem with games for the WiiU in my eyes is their crap arse schedule they have for previewing them. 12 days before launch is not good enough.
Miiverse Communities should be up by now for any game announced. Spread the word now or else...
Agreed. Timed exclusive with Wii U version releasing a few months ahead is the only way it will be helpful for Wii U.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Careful, it's when people start to hype Nintendo's regular presentations that they start to suck.
This. Handheld Smash could be huge. I think they only brought it to the 3DS as well as the Wii U in order to take the franchise in a new direction. It's difficult to innovate a SSB game...
Sammy Samusu
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KillerTravis
Banned
Who says they thought this game would have a huge impact on Wii U? IntSys just likes making Fire Emblem games lol.
StreetsAhead
Member
Guess it's just me that's not sitting in the overlap.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Does anybody have that link to that new database some of you guys made?
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Yep, that's it.
I missed this, thanks for the link and thanks Road for making it.
Though personally, I'm waiting for a Dengeki database. They seem to give out numbers like its Christmas.
metalslimer
Member
Well it just seems like WW is the only game that can pass 100k for months (god that's sad) so it could reach at least 150-175k. If it doesn't even reach 100k that would be terrible. This is clearly positioned as one of Nintendo's big fall titles. Nintendo better get Dk out in japan this year