PSP : Tales of Eternia ( Namco ) { 2005-03-03 } - 74,630 / 193,541
PSP : Tales of Eternia [PSP the Best] ( Namco ) { 2005-12-01 } - - / 55,632
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Media Create Sales: Week 34, 2014 (Aug 18 - Aug 24)
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PSP : Tales of Eternia ( Namco ) { 2005-03-03 } - 74,630 / 193,541
PSP : Tales of Eternia [PSP the Best] ( Namco ) { 2005-12-01 } - - / 55,632
metalslimer
Member
I don't see why Sony would bother to cut the price of Vita right now. It's not like they are trying to compete with Nintendo. It would lose them more money as a decent sized price drop would probably get rid of a lot of the profit they are making off the system
I don't see why we even care about XBO. It will be below 2k in about a month.
I don't see why we even care about XBO. It will be below 2k in about a month.
Price compared with the other 2? I thought the kinectless version was around the same price.
Yes? Tales it a pretty big franchise as far as they go in Japan. The only franchises really significantly bigger at the time were owned by Square, Nintendo or called Monster Hunter. It's very possible Square weren't willing to have timed exclusivity of any of their major franchises and Monster Hunter may have been too much. Tales was pretty much likely the biggest franchise they were willing to fit the bill for.
Just talking about relative to it's competitors. As in, Xbox was the same price as it's competitors, Xbox 360 was cheaper than one of it's competitors and Xbox one is more expensive than both of its competitors. Those points were only comparing OG xbox to Xbone, there are a even more reasons it won't touch 360's userbase.
I think you may be overhauling tales in Japan, but I could be wrong, anyone got Japanese game franchise sales in Japan?
Whats the answer to the question I asked? Not sure where this turned into a LTD subjects.
There were some handheld franchises (Layton, Inazuma) that were pretty big for a while, but as I said, there really weren't (aren't?) many console franchises bigger than Tales that weren't Square/Nintendo/Monster hunter. I'll try and find you some numbers...
Edit: You know what, there's really no point to this discussion right now. Wait till next week to find out.
Regarding Tales. I'll try and find you some numbers.
Edit edit: I guess Musou was pretty big around the PS2 era so that could've been a worthwhile "moneyhat" maybe.
I believe even diehard Xbox fanboys have accepted XB1 fate in Japan. For some reason you want to believe the opposite and ignore all indications and data. If you are not trolling it's good to believe in miracles but the reality is much different.
The point of discussion was if the 360 was actually trying to get Japan. All I know is that unless there are bombs at THE Xone will be a fire bomb around end of Sept. Or something else.
Top 20 PS3 games, ToX is #7, ToX2 is #20.
Further down,
#29. Tales of Vesperia (late port after being 360 timed exclusive) 408.171
#40. Tales of Graces f (port from Wii game) 338.628
source: https://sites.google.com/site/japanltdrank/
I have not one time talked about xbox one sales outside of launch and I have said I expected it to drop. I have no idea why people believe I am saying its going to be a big hit.
Ahh, so its not that big in comparison. I figured Taking was a bigger deal as well.
Microsoft enlisted Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of Final Fantasy, and Akira Toriyama, the artist behind Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest, to create Blue Dragon for Xbox 360. To build the property up, Microsoft worked with other partners. This meant a TV anime that ran for two years, two separate manga series, merchandise lines and eventual DS spinoffs.
Yes, Microsoft tried to get Japan interested in Xbox 360. They weren't doing great, but they were growing in that region. Then they stopped trying. Now Xbox One will follow the first Xbox's performance in Japan.
Yes, Microsoft tried to get Japan interested in Xbox 360. They weren't doing great, but they were growing in that region. Then they stopped trying. Now Xbox One will follow the first Xbox's performance in Japan.
I'm not sure how the info you're getting out of this is "oh it's not that big" when it's literally one of the biggest 3rd party brands on home consoles behind FF/RE/MGS/GTA but ok. Seems like your mind is made up already.
You mean the same Blue Dragon that barely got pushed outside Japan and had iits 2 nintendo es sequel NO ONE really knew about?
Its not that big in relation to other franchises such as Yakuza etc. And not just square and such as the other poster above said. You make not that big sound like I said it was bad hold on now, thats not what I meant.
Kresnik258
Member
Are you genuinely doing this on purpose? Xillia sold just shy of 90k more than the best-selling Yakuza game on PS3. It's right there in the post you quoted.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Toemon what are you doing? What are you arguing? Please don't tell me you're arguing that XB1 will do well in Japan. It would be lucky to reach half of 360's LTD.
Ok, so let me just say I know jack about Japanese sales and we will see how much the Xbox does in the first 2 weeks. Again, I never said it was going to be a hit but I think it will have a "passable launch" to say the least.
Unless they drop bombs no ONE would ever think possible at tgs. Which I doubt.
Unless they drop bombs no ONE would ever think possible at tgs. Which I doubt.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
passable launch = ???
give us numbers bearing in mind you're looking at an LTD of <800k
metalslimer
Member
Then why are you even making this argument? Just to be contrarian?
I still dont see why people think this, I said multiple times I think XO will drop more than lead in pudding. Never said they were going to have a great LTD or anything.
The 360 trying in Japan argument is unrelated to the Xboxone maybe selling 90k or so in the first 10 or so days.
What is a passable launch and how will Microsoft achieve this relative to their past Japanese launch efforts?
Don't answer my question with a question either, that's common deflection.
Plenty of high profile Japanese games are stealth launched over here. That doesn't mean they're not high profile games in Japan. You called Yakuza a big series before. Those games don't get localized anymore and when they did, after the first, they were all sub-only. AFAIK they never had any kind of TV ad presence. I know Blue Dragon did. The anime eventually surfaced in NA too.
What you just quoted isn't a question and it also says 90k "or so" for X1 launch sales as well.
Tsutaya's weekly report
- Toukiden is on top this week as it was expected. There's the impression it had a slow start, though. But Vita Hardware is in a good shape now, so legs are expected.
- Persona 4: Arena is second. These days fighting games are not selling well, so the fact that Persona is selling well is special.
- Super Robot Taisen OG Saga and specially Medarot 8 have been stock limited.
Next week:
- Dragon Quest X for 3DS is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are favorable.
- The reputation for TitanFall was high and it's included as a download version with One, so it could promote a dash start.
- Pre-orders for Dead Rising 3 and Forza 5 are good.
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/02/20140902dog00m200053000c.html?mode=pc
- Toukiden is on top this week as it was expected. There's the impression it had a slow start, though. But Vita Hardware is in a good shape now, so legs are expected.
- Persona 4: Arena is second. These days fighting games are not selling well, so the fact that Persona is selling well is special.
- Super Robot Taisen OG Saga and specially Medarot 8 have been stock limited.
Next week:
- Dragon Quest X for 3DS is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are favorable.
- The reputation for TitanFall was high and it's included as a download version with One, so it could promote a dash start.
- Pre-orders for Dead Rising 3 and Forza 5 are good.
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/02/20140902dog00m200053000c.html?mode=pc
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 55,555
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 22,222
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 111,111
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 155,555
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 999,999
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 77,777
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 144,444
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 77,777
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 22,222
There was a guy who used to defend Microsoft in these threads. I can't remember his name. Then he was either banned or gave up after it became clear the Xbox 360 wasn't going anywhere.
I guess this new guy is just looking to fill that spot or something, I don't know. It doesn't actually seem he is defending Microsoft, but at least we're talking about Xbox concerning the Japanese market, so that's a win?
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 55,555
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 22,222
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 111,111
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 155,555
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 999,999
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 77,777
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 144,444
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 77,777
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 22,222
There was a guy who used to defend Microsoft in these threads. I can't remember his name. Then he was either banned or gave up after it became clear the Xbox 360 wasn't going anywhere.
I guess this new guy is just looking to fill that spot or something, I don't know. It doesn't actually seem he is defending Microsoft, but at least we're talking about Xbox concerning the Japanese market, so that's a win?
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
..eh, what the hell. I'm bored:
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 35,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 23,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 120,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 135,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 850,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 65,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 135,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 65,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 30,000
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 35,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 23,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 120,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 135,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 850,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 65,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 135,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 65,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 30,000
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
And yet two pages ensued
I predict 90k or so, or something, or I dunno, give or take 60k, can I be allowed in the prediction league?
I think his name was Jimbo
ambientmystic
Member
I think you guys got trolled by the contrarian junior lol. He got all of y'all Sales Age regulars and masters to respond to him and he hasn't even been 'round these parts before.
Personally, I'm expecting lukewarm numbers for the Xbone, but not as bad as others would have it.
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 65,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 25,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 115,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 140,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 900,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 70,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 115,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 71,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 27,000
Personally, I'm expecting lukewarm numbers for the Xbone, but not as bad as others would have it.
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 65,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 25,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 115,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 140,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 900,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 70,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 115,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 71,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 27,000
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Anyways, the XB1 will be irrelevant in Japan. Deleted my old post that I had written.
Sounds like lots of positives this week from Tsutaya =).
Sounds like lots of positives this week from Tsutaya =).
Road has his own site? Cool!
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
A mana game coming from Android? Hm interesting. Is it any good?
RyougaSaotome
Member
Definitely seeing Sen no Kiseki II at a little over 200,000 units combined its first week, unless it sees a significant drop due to the load issues present in the first version of Sen.
Hard to see it doing LESS than Sen no Kiseki though.
Hard to see it doing LESS than Sen no Kiseki though.
Mpl, you asked in a previous thread and it wasn't then but HW is now in the Wii U eShop all time charts, at 20 behind Wii Party U, sans VC.
I liked it. It's a bitch to install and keep updated with the shitty android region lock though and the frame rate was bad as well on my full hd tablet. Will probably play it more on Vita.
I liked it. It's a bitch to install and keep updated with the shitty android region lock though and the frame rate was bad as well on my full hd tablet. Will probably play it more on Vita.
WinterDemons
Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 31,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 14,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 100,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 800,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 50,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 125,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 85,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 25,000
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 31,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 14,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 100,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 800,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 50,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 125,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 85,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 25,000
Speaking of DQX, the PC version is now "region free" but what about the Wii/WiiU and soon to be 3DS one? I know the hardware itself is region locked, but if I were import the new 3DS with a copy of DQX, can I play it?
The IP lock was temporarily suspended for all versions but is also back for all versions. 3DS should be no different.
BishopLamont
Banned
According to expectations at least I'm guessing, since they keep coming, its already PS3/PS4 multiplatform, no reason not to add the Vita.
Okay I have Road to TGS ready, but I'm saving the actual post for the new thread that's out soon.
That said, here's a preview with the spreadsheet and stats so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-zF0jwT0Y1a3kcNbnRJYt323BgFtXwmAZHRF2vwzkZU/edit?usp=sharing
When this is done (Road to TGS as a whole) I'll try to roughly separate things out by sales tier so that it's a little more clear what the caliber of announcements is instead of just the volume.
3DS Retail: 10
3DS-Only Retail: 9
3DS eShop: 3
New 3DS: 1
Vita Retail: 15
Vita-Only Retail: 6
Vita PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Retail: 19
PS4-Only Retail: 6
PS4 PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Morpheus: 1
PS3 Retail: 12
Ps3-Only Retail: 1
PS3 PSN: 1
iOS: 20
Android: 17
XB1 Retail: 5
XB1 XBLM: 1
360 Retail: 1
360 XBLM: 1
Arcades: 1
Wii U: Um...
That said, here's a preview with the spreadsheet and stats so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-zF0jwT0Y1a3kcNbnRJYt323BgFtXwmAZHRF2vwzkZU/edit?usp=sharing
When this is done (Road to TGS as a whole) I'll try to roughly separate things out by sales tier so that it's a little more clear what the caliber of announcements is instead of just the volume.
3DS Retail: 10
3DS-Only Retail: 9
3DS eShop: 3
New 3DS: 1
Vita Retail: 15
Vita-Only Retail: 6
Vita PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Retail: 19
PS4-Only Retail: 6
PS4 PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Morpheus: 1
PS3 Retail: 12
Ps3-Only Retail: 1
PS3 PSN: 1
iOS: 20
Android: 17
XB1 Retail: 5
XB1 XBLM: 1
360 Retail: 1
360 XBLM: 1
Arcades: 1
Wii U: Um...
Pennywise83
Banned
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 72,486
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 19,983
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 123,456
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 261,732
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,456,123
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 87,775
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 148,112
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 75,876
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 23,010
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 72,486
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 19,983
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 123,456
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 261,732
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,456,123
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 87,775
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 148,112
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 75,876
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 23,010
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Well I certainly did not expect PS4 to have the most retail titles. TGS has been surprisingly good for the PS4 (of course due to the conference).
New thread already? Aren't there going to more announcements coming up?
Predictions:
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 60,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 33,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 77,777
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 180,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,415,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 72,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 127,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 50,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 33,333
[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 60,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 33,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 77,777
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 180,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,415,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 72,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 127,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 50,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 33,333
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Only question is if it could be the worst opening console of all time right?