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[iifu]

I think that Oot remake did very well, honestly.

Sure, it did well for a remake. I just meant as a whole the Zelda series isn't really setting the charts on fire in Japan.

 

[Takao]

I wish Gravity Rush wasn't setting the charts on fire just like Zelda does.

 

[Why would you do that?]

I remember hearing that Zelda has declined in Japan, but sometimes I feel like the Zelda game caters a bit more to the West than it used to. Maybe it's a gross generalization, but haven't the Wind Waker style games like PH, ST and, well, WW sold more than most other Zelda games?

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D has already outsold Twilight: Princess.

Calling it Twilight: Princess will get a few people mad.

 

[gamergirly]

Anyone know how long has it taken previous platforms to have a 2m hit?



I think so - only thing that makes sense.
Improving the 3DS accounts would honestly help a lot more; atm I think people probably feel their not buying anything - Nintendo needs to make it feel physical and that their download is secure.



Agree; portable seems like the way to go for the series - OoT showed the 3DS as a capable device in this respect.
Personally I'd keep the artstyle of OoT for 3DS games and go back to Windwaker style on WiiU

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believe[/believe]

Spoiler

Yep, portable AND console is the way the to go for the series

 

[Aostia]

Sure, it did well for a remake. I just meant as a whole the Zelda series isn't really setting the charts on fire in Japan.

Yes, also if there aren't so many games able to sell 500K with remakes, in Japan.
SS issues are more related to the status of the console when it hit the market or to the episode itself, imho, if PH and Oot are able to put those number on the table.

It's still to be understood if for Japan is becoming more portable-oriented or whetever.

TP numbers were solid too, but are related to a moment when, thanks to the Wii, the home market was still relevant.

General consideration: I' curious to see, with the release of the Wii U and with the release of big software on PS3, if the home market can regain some market share in Japan versus the portable segment, considering the struggling VIta situation

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

TP also had around 100k (iirc) direct sales on Gamecube to consider, which none of the trackers counted afaik.

The performance of SS reminds me a lot of MM, 2nd Zelda released at the system's end and peripheral dependant, it manages about half the sales of it's predecessor.

 

[Spiegel]

General consideration: I' curious to see, with the release of the Wii U and with the release of big software on PS3, if the home market can regain some market share in Japan versus the portable segment, considering the struggling VIta situation

Common sense says home consoles will easily regain marketshare even if Wii U doesn't explode right out the gate. 3DS is no DS and Vita is a non factor.

 

[Jackano]

Calling it Twilight: Princess will get a few people mad.

Indeed, but I'm not as mad as when people mess up themselves with or without the "the": The Ocarina of Time, The Twilight Princess, Legend of Zelda, Wind Waker. Go see The Star Wars for frak sake!

 

[Aostia]

Common sense says home consoles will easily regain marketshare even if Wii U doesn't explode right out the gate. 3DS is no DS and Vita is a non factor.

Yes, but the market could be thinner than in the past, economical struggles could be affecting it more than we believe, smartphone market is increasing, Wii U could not be able to penetrate the market as the Wii did in its beginning, PS3 is selling less than 2012 and so on...

Please consider that my speech was inteded to include "the generation", more than the immediate launch period of the WiiU or simply the 2013 year.

TP also had around 100k (iirc) direct sales on Gamecube to consider, which none of the trackers counted afaik.

The performance of SS reminds me a lot of MM, 2nd Zelda released at the system's end and peripheral dependant, it manages about half the sales of it's predecessor.

I agree, and I repeat: I think that the brand is still strong as PH and Oot but also TP demonstrated. It depends on single episode/status of the console moment, imho

 

[electroplankton]

Not at all.
I think that some Wii ad DS titles have signed records that will be repeated only in many years, in particular economical/mode situations (and not necessarely by Nintendo itself). Something like the Wii selling 4 million units in one month only in the US, or MH selling 5 millions with a single SKU in Japan only.

I think it will sell well, with a LTD over 2 millions, btw.

No MH has ever sold 5 million units with a single SKU.

 

[Chris1964]

TP also had around 100k (iirc) direct sales on Gamecube to consider, which none of the trackers counted afaik.

100k from eshop there is no way has happened.

 

[donny2112]

100k from eshop there is no way has happened.

What is this in reference to? He was talking about the GCN Twilight Princess being sold directly by Nintendo in Japan. Don't recall seeing a number from that (maybe from shipment reports?) so can't speak to the 100K, but he wasn't talking about the eShop.

 

[electroplankton]

Do we know shipment numbers for BD and PxZ?

 

[StreetsAhead]

Do we know shipment numbers for BD and PxZ?

Small and slightly larger?

 

[Boss Doggie]

So I take it PxZ won't be counted in the upcoming MC?

 

[Orgen]

What is this in reference to? He was talking about the GCN Twilight Princess being sold directly by Nintendo in Japan. Don't recall seeing a number from that (maybe from shipment reports?) so can't speak to the 100K, but he wasn't talking about the eShop.

Maybe it's because the game was only sold online? (IIRC)

 

[StreetsAhead]

So I take it PxZ won't be counted in the upcoming MC?

We will get W1 figures next week.

 

[Sagitario]

Skyward Sword only sold 300K?

 

[Chris1964]

What is this in reference to? He was talking about the GCN Twilight Princess being sold directly by Nintendo in Japan. Don't recall seeing a number from that (maybe from shipment reports?) so can't speak to the 100K, but he wasn't talking about the eShop.

Nintendo online store

 

[Nibel]

I wish Gravity Rush wasn't setting the charts on fire just like Zelda does.

And still the Zelda franchise has sold more than Gravity Rush and its sequels ever will, what's your point? This is childish

 

[Chris1964]

And still the Zelda franchise has sold more than Gravity Rush and its sequels ever will, what's your point? This is childish

You didn't understand what he meant.

 

[Nibel]

You didn't understand what he meant.

Stop being anti-Nibel Chris, it hurts

 

[Mpl90]

You didn't understand what he meant.

Chris1964 defending Takao, and rightfully so.
Ok, now I've almost seen everything in my life.

 

[Chris1964]

I personally saw everything when I defended Parmenides.

 

[Road]

Nintendo online store

I think this is the confusion:

100k from eshop there is no way has happened.

eShop = 3DS online store for downloads.

Nintendo Online Shop is not the eShop.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Nintendo online store

Is this first week or total? I looked up shipments, Japan had 70k through March 2007, so less than I remembered offhand.

 

[donny2112]

Stop being anti-Nibel Chris, it hurts

Takao was saying that if Zelda wasn't "lighting the sales charts on fire," he'd love for Gravity Rush to not be "lighting the sales charts on fire" like Zelda, since that'd mean 300K+ for Gravity Rush.

Nintendo online store

http://i.imgur.com/OEuIP.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

Ah, so the maximum limit would be ~25K (unless that sold out and they made more). Nice to know.

[quote="Road, post: 43014503"]I think this is the confusion:

eShop = 3DS online store for downloads.

[URL="http://onlineshop.nintendo.co.jp/shop/item_detail?category_id=170026&item_id=591329"]Nintendo Online Shop[/URL] is not the eShop.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, figured Chris1964 might be using "eShop" as shorthand for Nintendo's selling it online, but wanted to make sure he wasn't talking about something else, since they're not the same thing. Thanks!

 

[Mpl90]

I personally saw everything when I defended Parmenides.

...Yeah, you're right. :lol

 

[Road]

Congratulations to Road for winning by both units and percentage!

BY UNITS                             BY PERCENTAGE

  1   160,289 Road                      1  214.5% Road
  2   205,476 hiska-kun                 2  217.6% Foshy
  3   217,810 Gradivus                  3  239.3% Bruno MB
  4   228,564 Bruno MB                  4  240.0% Orgen
  5   232,481 Foshy                     5  241.9% michaelius
  6   235,780 michaelius                6  243.2% Gradivus
  7   238,954 Orgen                     7  248.1% lunchwithyuzo
  8   249,392 Chris1964                 8  248.2% hiska-kun
  9   268,540 lunchwithyuzo             9  275.2% Chris1964
 10   280,882 electroplankton          10  318.7% electroplankton
 11   296,406 XDDX                     11  330.4% MasterSheen
 12   303,240 MasterSheen              12  334.1% Yeshua
 13   320,826 Yeshua                   13  355.1% Gianni Merryman
 14   336,426 Gianni Merryman          14  364.7% XDDX
 15   396,968 Nekki                    15  389.1% Nekki
 16   416,566 Kenka                    16  486.8% Kenka


                                       Famitsu   Bruno MB electrop Gradivus MasterSh Gianni M lunchwit Foshy    Chris196 michaeli Yeshua   Kenka    XDDX     Orgen    Nekki    Road     hiska-kun
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers        90,085    92000   115000   100000   110000   130000   101234    88888    98765    80000   100000   127000   125000   106000   100000   111111   129000
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst                 83,885    78000    85000    82000    85000   115000    67890    77777    65432   100000   100000    67000    95000    70000    70000    66666    75000
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f       185,353   145000   155000   150000   140000   156000   145678   159999   210987   220000   170000   147000   170000   177000   210000   155555   179000
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA                 39,615    54000    35000    50000    60000    46000    45678    59999    56789    50000    25000    67000    65000    49000    60000    88888    52000
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2         99,249   125000   125000   115000    90000    75000   134567   109999    67890   100000   120000    87000   120000    85000    70000    99999    99000
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd      49,737    62000    65000    70000    75000    46000    43210    44444    54321    40000   150000   107000    75000    61000    55000    55555    79000
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho       88,599    55000    45000    50000    35000   137000    65432    88888   123456   100000   100000    97000    75000   134000    30000    77777   111000
[PSP] Final Fantasy III                   63,455    45000    35000    50000    90000    36000    56789    55555    67890    50000    30000   117000    40000    73000    50000    66666    59000
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld   202,887   138000   145000   147000   110000   113000   112345    66666   145678   100000   130000    77000   120000   112000    25000   188888   149000
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5                 74,877    70000   110000    80000    75000    95000    45678    69699    34567    80000    50000    47000    45000    57000    50000    77777    49000
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta        38,806    45000    25000    50000    30000    23000    34567    24999    32109    60000    40000    27000    25000    41000    20000    33333    36000

UNIT DIFF                                          228564   280882   217810   303240   336426   268540   232481   249392   235780   320826   416566   296406   238954   396968   160289   205476

[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers             0     1915    24915     9915    19915    39915    11149    -1197     8680   -10085     9915    36915    34915    15915     9915    21026    38915
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst                      0    -5885     1115    -1885     1115    31115   -15995    -6108   -18453    16115    16115   -16885    11115   -13885   -13885   -17219    -8885
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f             0   -40353   -30353   -35353   -45353   -29353   -39675   -25354    25634    34647   -15353   -38353   -15353    -8353    24647   -29798    -6353
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA                      0    14385    -4615    10385    20385     6385     6063    20384    17174    10385   -14615    27385    25385     9385    20385    49273    12385
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2              0    25751    25751    15751    -9249   -24249    35318    10750   -31359      751    20751   -12249    20751   -14249   -29249      750     -249
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd           0    12263    15263    20263    25263    -3737    -6527    -5293     4584    -9737   100263    57263    25263    11263     5263     5818    29263
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho            0   -33599   -43599   -38599   -53599    48401   -23167      289    34857    11401    11401     8401   -13599    45401   -58599   -10822    22401
[PSP] Final Fantasy III                        0   -18455   -28455   -13455    26545   -27455    -6666    -7900     4435   -13455   -33455    53545   -23455     9545   -13455     3211    -4455
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld         0   -64887   -57887   -55887   -92887   -89887   -90542  -136221   -57209  -102887   -72887  -125887   -82887   -90887  -177887   -13999   -53887
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5                      0    -4877    35123     5123      123    20123   -29199    -5178   -40310     5123   -24877   -27877   -29877   -17877   -24877     2900   -25877
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta             0     6194   -13806    11194    -8806   -15806    -4239   -13807    -6697    21194     1194   -11806   -13806     2194   -18806    -5473    -2806

STATISTICS
                                        Famitsu  AVERAGE      MIN      MAX     OVER    UNDER  CLOSEST BY
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers        90,085  107,125   80,000  130,000      88%      13%   88,888 Foshy
[3DS] Senran Kagura Burst                 83,885   81,235   65,432  115,000      38%      63%   85,000 electroplankton
[PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f       185,353  168,201  140,000  220,000      19%      81%  179,000 hiska-kun
[PSP] Gundam AGE: CD / UA                 39,615   54,022   25,000   88,888      88%      13%   35,000 electroplankton
[PS3+360] Tekken Tag Tournament 2         99,249  101,466   67,890  134,567      56%      44%   99,000 hiska-kun
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd      49,737   67,658   40,000  150,000      75%      25%   46,000 Gianni Merryman
[3DS] Medabots 7: Metabee / Rokusho       88,599   82,785   30,000  137,000      50%      50%   88,888 Foshy
[PSP] Final Fantasy III                   63,455   57,619   30,000  117,000      31%      69%   66,666 Road
[PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld   202,887  117,474   25,000  188,888       0%     100%  188,888 Road
[PS3+360] Dead or Alive 5                 74,877   64,733   34,567  110,000      38%      63%   75,000 MasterSheen
[PSV] Ys: Foliage Ocean in Celceta        38,806   34,188   20,000   60,000      31%      69%   40,000 Yeshua

Are we going to get the Prediction League results today?

I massively underestimated Gundam.

Everyone underestimated Gundam (I assume you don't mean Gundam AGE). You had the 2nd lowest number, only Nekki had it lower at 25k (Maybe he forgot a zero?). I didn't notice at the time people were betting on such low numbers.

Or maybe I did...

 

[Kenka]

I am last?

Well done Road!

 

[Foshy]

2nd by percentage, not bad :]

 

[Pranay]

When will we get the numbers ?

 

[slaughterking]

In about 23 hours.

 

[Pranay]

In about 23 hours.

Ahh Fuck :\

 

[smbu2000]

Not sure if anybody is interested in these, but I took these today at my local Sofmap.

Wii U pre-order card location. You take one of those little cards up to the counter to pre-order one. Usually when there are no more cards, is when they stop taking pre-orders.The MH3G Wii U bundle is sold out. (that happened on the first day of pre-orders)

Closer look at the cards. The Premium bundle Wii U cards were pretty reduced, there were a lot of Basic bundle cards left.

Here's a picture of the main aisle in the store. (I blurred out the people's faces.) Those pre-order Wii U things hanging run all along the length of that aisle to the entrance of the store. One side has the Basic bundle and the other side has the Premium bundle advertised. The closest one in the picture is right next to the Vita.

Might be a bit hard to see. Sorry, for the bad pics. I can upload larger size pics of these three if requested. I shrunk them down for posting.

 

[hiska-kun]

Second by units and the closest for Hatsune Miku and Tekken Tag. Not bad.

Congratulations Road.

 

[Takao]

And still the Zelda franchise has sold more than Gravity Rush and its sequels ever will, what's your point? This is childish

I honestly don't know how you took offense to that. donny2112 explained my comment pretty well. There never was anything to get angry about in that post ... ?

Edit: Anyways, Shinriji has been posting up the top best selling Vita games on PSN (the numbers are the amount of user ratings, and their score out of 5)

JAPAN VITA PSN RANKING (Out 3 - Out 9)

1. Ys - Foliage Ocean in Celceta (499/4.90)
2. Earth Defense Force 2017 Portable (546/4.84)
3. Nobunaga's Ambition: Heavenly with Power-Up Kit (126/4.72)
4. Sound Shapes (224/ 4.67)
5. DJMAX Technika Tune (141/4.57)
6. Little Big Planet PS Vita (525/ 4.89)
7. Tottemo E Mahjong (208/3.80)
8. Assault Gunners (1058/4.56)
9. Hatsune Miku: Project f (2656/4.90)
10. Persona 4 Golden (3119/4.95)

JAPAN VITA ALL TIME RATED PSN RANKING

1. Samurai & Dragons (6149)
2. Gravity Rush (5575)
3. Guardian Hearts (3271)
4. Persona 4 Golden (3119)
5. Piccoto Knights (2896)
6. Hatsune Miku: Project f (2656)
7. Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (2630)
8. Ragnarok Odyssey (2597)
9. Super Stardust Delta (1854)
10. Escape Plan (1495)

For comparsion purposes

Final Fantasy 7 (7806)

 

[saichi]

I honestly don't know how you took offense to that. donny2112 explained my comment pretty well. There never was anything to get angry about in that post ... ?

There was... you mentioned Gravity Rush and Zelda in one sentence... how dare you!

 

[Nekki]

Everyone underestimated Gundam (I assume you don't mean Gundam AGE). You had the 2nd lowest number, only Nekki had it lower at 25k (Maybe he forgot a zero?). I didn't notice at the time people were betting on such low numbers.

Or maybe I did...

It hurts because it's true :/

Maybe i should stop for a while, go into the wild, and come back stronger, lol.

 

[Road]

Famitsu: famitsu.com/news/201210/10022544.html

Media-Create: http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20121010078/

 

[Bruno MB]

Famitsu

Resident Evil 6 (PS3) - 643,802
Winning Eleven 2013 (PS3) - 234,383
Resident Evil 6 (360) - 28,609

PS3 - 43,870

 

[Pranay]

MC

RE6 - 634,933
WE - 223,884

 

[Jonnyram]

Xbox 360 4,894
Wii 4,849

lol

 

[schuelma]

holy poop at Resident Evil. I knew it was going to do well..but damn.

 

[Bruno MB]

Wow, Resident Evil 6 is massive, that's a brutal opening.

 

[mugurumakensei]

That vita stability.

 

[Pranay]

Xbox 360 4,894
Wii 4,849

lol

haha

 

[Foshy]

I predicted 666'666 for RE6, but that's for 3 weeks. :/

Spoiler

I hope it suddenly stops selling

 

[Erethian]

Combined LTD total for RE5: 644381
Combined first week total for RE6: 672411

 

[BadWolf]

Combined LTD total for RE5: 644381
Combined first week total for RE6: 672411

Whoa.