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Media Create Sales: Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)
- Thread starter Chris1964
- Start date
Mr. Pointy
Member
Wii U escape from death.
Bruno MB
Member
[NGB] Pokémon Yellow (Nintendo) {1998.09.12} - 851.091 / 2.294.065
[NGB] Pokémon Crystal (Nintendo) {2000.12.14} - 707.580 / 1.871.307
[GBA] Pokémon Emerald (Pokémon Co.) {2004.09.16} - 643.987 / 2.197.017
[NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon Co.) {2008.09.13} - 967.675 / 2.603.358
[NDS] Pokémon Black 2 / White 2 (Pokémon Co.) {2012.06.23} - 1.618.621 / 2.990.161
Aquamarine
Member
Dengeki Weekly Software Highlights:
Pokemon X won first place for 4 consecutive weeks with 138K units sold to consumers this week.
Best-selling 3DS games:
Wii Party U took second place with 71K units.
The debut game Little Battlers eXperience: Wars from Level-5 was also in the Top 5 software sold this week.
Top 50
3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 7
WIU - 3
WII - 1
New releases not present in the Top 50:
For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:
What is Dengeki?
Dengeki is a website (it's also a brand of magazines / a book and manga imprint) that publishes sell-through Japanese sales data tracked by ASCII Research Institute, courtesy of ASCII Media Works, Inc. Every week they publish a nationwide snapshot of Japanese video game sales with the cooperation of more than 3,000 specialty game stores and convenience store chains all across Japan.
Why post Dengeki numbers when you have Media Create / Famitsu in the OP?
1) Unlike any other tracker, Dengeki gives us software numbers for Top 50 sales so we can track low-performing titles for a longer period of time
2) Unlike the others, Dengeki gives us total software sales for every platform, so we can track the relative health of platform software ecosystems
3) Dengeki is a respected sales tracker with 5 consecutive years of being reported each week in GAF threads
Is Dengeki less accurate than Media Create / Famitsu?
1) Dengeki is just as accurate as Media Create and Famitsu. Just because each tracker has quirks and natural deviations from the others doesn't mean one is inherently superior to the rest.
2) Dengeki is the tracker most unfamiliar to GAF / the public, and sometimes people confuse lack of dissemination with inaccuracy in sales figures
3) The amount of retail stores Dengeki tracks is similar to Media Create and Famitsu
Here are the differences between the trackers:
Media Create:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Media Create Co., Ltd.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 20 software sales with numbers
+ Top 50 software sales without numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sometimes presents sell-through figures
+ Releases first (at the same time as Famitsu)
+ Nintendo uses these numbers in their investor presentations
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not track download cards
- Does not provide software sales figures past the Top 20
Famitsu:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Enterbrain, Inc.
+ Tracks about 3,600 retail stores / chains
+ Top 30 software sales with numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through ranges for all titles
+ Has the most historical data available for GAFfers
+ Tracks download cards
+ Releases first (at the same time as Media Create)
- Does not distinguish between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not report total software sales
Dengeki:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from ASCII Research Institute.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 50 software sales with numbers
+ Top 3 software sales per platform
+ Total software sales per platform
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through figures for a few titles
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Inconsistent data reporting over the years
- Does not track download cards
- Releases nearly 24 hours after Media Create / Famitsu
Dengeki Spreadsheet Archive
http://bit.ly/16xq86v
Dengeki Historical Sales Archive
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013
(A very special thanks to Road for making this archive possible)
Last Week's Sales Figures (Week 43, 2013, Oct 21 - Oct 27)
Pokemon X won first place for 4 consecutive weeks with 138K units sold to consumers this week.
- 74K units of Pokemon X (1.529 million LTD)
- 64K units of Pokemon Y (1.434 million LTD)
Best-selling 3DS games:
- Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 3.4 million LTD
- Pokemon X + Y - 2.963 million (first four weeks LTD)
- Monster Hunter 4 - 2.93 million LTD
Wii Party U took second place with 71K units.
- About 50% of Wii Party U's 70,556 sales came from the Wii U Family Premium Set hardware bundles (¥32,800 to ¥34,800, Black or White)
- Wii U sold 38,904 this week, so the bundle deals made up the vast majority of its weekly sales (around 95% bundle ratio)
- Original Wii Party performance: 2.35 million LTD (sold to Japanese consumers). Because of this, pay close attention to Wii Party U performance to see if it has legs like its predecessor
The debut game Little Battlers eXperience: Wars from Level-5 was also in the Top 5 software sold this week.
- First week sell-through percentage was 55%
- With a sell-through figure of 47,044, we can assume Little Battlers eXperience: Wars had ~85,500 initial shipments to retailers
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[B]DENGEKI TOP 50 SOFTWARE SALES
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]
[U][B]RANK/L.WK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD WK. CHANGE[/B][/U]
1/1 3DS Pokémon X Pokémon Co. 13/10/12 74,076 1,529,397 -41%
[b]2/- Wii U Wii Party U Nintendo 13/10/31 70,556 70,556[/b]
3/2 3DS Pokémon Y Pokémon Co. 13/10/12 64,141 1,433,875 -40%
4/3 PS3 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 58,430 142,169 -30%
[b]5/- 3DS Little Battlers eXperience: Wars Level 5 13/10/31 47,044 47,044[/b]
6/5 3DS Monster Hunter 4 Capcom 13/09/14 46,524 2,932,783 -27%
7/7 PSP Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 34,306 72,673 -11%
[b]8/- Vita Gundam Breaker Bandai Namco Games 13/10/31 33,650 33,650[/b]
9/71 Wii U New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo 12/12/08 32,078 602,216
[b]10/- Vita Chou Tsugitsugimono Game Neptune Re:Birth1 Compile Heart 13/10/31 31,507 31,507[/b]
11/6 PS3 Grand Theft Auto V Rockstar Games 13/10/10 30,582 457,385 -35%
[b]12/- PS3 Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei Aqua Plus 13/10/31 24,647 24,647[/b]
13/8 Vita Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 14,682 39,026 -40%
14/10 3DS Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! Bandai Namco Games 13/10/17 13,394 79,201 -29%
15/4 PS3 BlazBlue: Chronophantasma Arc System Works 13/10/24 11,897 89,957 -85%
16/18 3DS Animal Crossing: New Leaf Nintendo 12/11/08 5,506 3,402,958 -4%
[b]17/- PSP Shinsouhan Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World QuinRose 13/10/31 5,189 5,189[/b]
18/15 3DS Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 5,067 312,620 -17%
19/20 3DS Friend Collection: New Life Nintendo 13/04/18 4,865 1,485,425 0%
[b]20/- PSP Seishun Hajime Mashita! Honeybee 13/10/31 4,622 4,622[/b]
21/9 PSP Diabolik Lovers: More, Blood Idea Factory 13/10/24 4,050 25,323 -81%
22/12 PS3 FIFA 14 Electronic Arts 13/10/17 3,976 32,131 -44%
[b]23/- PSP Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. C-Territory 13/10/31 3,753 3,753[/b]
24/17 PS3 Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack Bandai Namco Games 13/10/10 3,106 101,411 -46%
25/14 PS3 Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! Sega 13/10/10 2,922 100,881 -55%
26/25 3DS Youkai Watch Level 5 13/07/11 2,856 207,429 -12%
27/16 PS3 Beyond: Two Souls SCE 13/10/17 2,841 28,858 -52%
28/19 Vita Dangan-Ronpa 1-2: Reload Spike Chunsoft 13/10/10 2,831 90,144 -47%
29/11 PSP Kamigami no Itazura Broccoli 13/10/24 2,830 16,643 -80%
30/27 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo 11/12/01 2,688 2,101,902 -2%
31/23 PS3 Fairy Fencer F Compile Heart 13/10/10 2,544 58,243 -43%
32/29 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2 Nintendo 12/07/28 2,469 2,033,955 0%
33/21 PS3 Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers Bandai Namco Games 13/10/17 2,389 28,200 -48%
34/31 3DS Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Nintendo 13/03/20 2,382 916,914 1%
35/28 3DS Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Nintendo 13/07/18 2,378 345,135 -10%
36/24 PS3 Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate Koei Tecmo 13/09/26 2,311 130,161 -31%
37/13 PS3 Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version Koei Tecmo 13/10/24 2,233 9,202 -68%
38/184 Vita Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) SCE 13/10/10 2,072 3,126
39/22 3DS Sonic: Lost World Sega 13/10/24 1,994 6,569 -56%
40/42 Wii U The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Nintendo 13/09/26 1,961 45,193 32%
41/26 Vita Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! Sega 13/10/10 1,822 45,076 -38%
42/35 PS3 Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn Square Enix 13/08/27 1,750 235,271 -7%
43/40 3DS Ace Attorney 5 Capcom 13/07/25 1,639 348,768 -1%
44/37 PS3 Armored Core: Verdict Day From Software 13/09/26 1,483 87,682 -18%
45/39 Wii Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 1,465 566,447 -12%
46/30 PSP J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + Sega 13/10/17 1,406 10,686 -43%
47/41 3DS Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D Nintendo 13/06/13 1,378 283,904 -9%
48/48 PSP God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) Bandai Namco Games 13/06/06 1,361 34,200 15%
49/34 Vita The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki Nihon Falcom 13/09/26 1,256 106,406 -35%
50/44 3DS Kuma-Tomo Bandai Namco Games 13/06/20 1,228 61,893 -9%Top 50
3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 7
WIU - 3
WII - 1
New releases not present in the Top 50:
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[B][3DS] Starry Sky: In Winter 3D
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Winter 3D (Limited Edition)
[PSV] Naitei! Shuukatsu Kanzen Taisaku - ES - SPI - Mensetsu
[PS3] Mahjong Haoh: Kaikyu Battle 3
[PS3] Darkstalkers Resurrection (Best Price!)
[/B]
Code:
[B]DENGEKI TOP 3 SOFTWARE SALES PER PLATFORM
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]
[U][B]RANK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD[/B][/U]
[B]PS3 Top 3[/B]
1 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 58,430 142,169
2 Grand Theft Auto V Rockstar Games 13/10/10 30,582 457,385
[b]3 Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei Aqua Plus 13/10/31 24,647 24,647[/b]
[B]PSV Top 3[/B]
[b]1 Gundam Breaker Bandai Namco Games 13/10/31 33,650 33,650[/b]
[b]2 Chou Tsugitsugimono Game Neptune Re:Birth1 Compile Heart 13/10/31 31,507 31,507[/b]
3 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 14,682 39,026
[B]PSP Top 3[/B]
1 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2013 Konami 13/10/24 34,306 72,673
[b]2 Shinsouhan Heart no Kuni no Alice: Wonderful Wonder World QuinRose 13/10/31 5,189 5,189[/b]
[b]3 Seishun Hajime Mashita! Honeybee 13/10/31 4,622 4,622[/b]
[B]WIU Top 3[/B]
[b]1 Wii Party U Nintendo 13/10/31 70,556 70,556[/b]
2 New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo 12/12/08 32,078 602,216
3 The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD Nintendo 13/09/26 1,961 45,193
[B]WII Top 3[/B]
1 Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 1,465 566,447
2 Mario Kart Wii Nintendo 08/04/30 629 3,597,157
3 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo 08/01/31 576 2,425,860
[B]3DS Top 3[/B]
1 Pokémon X Pokémon Co. 13/10/12 74,076 1,529,397
2 Pokémon Y Pokémon Co. 13/10/12 64,141 1,433,875
[b]3 Little Battlers eXperience: Wars Level 5 13/10/31 47,044 47,044[/b]
[B]NDS Top 3[/B]
1 Pokémon Black 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 261 1,624,574
2 Pokémon White 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 233 1,421,880
3 Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 10/03/04 218 191,839
[B]360 Top 3[/B]
1 Grand Theft Auto V Rockstar Games 13/10/10 607 32,327
2 Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition Microsoft Studios 13/06/06 130 11,239
3 Armored Core: Verdict Day From Software 13/09/26 93 6,042
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[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SALES
Week 44, 2013 (Oct 28 - Nov 03)[/B]
[U][B]SYSTEM SALES SALES(%) L.WEEK L.WEEK(%) FY 2013 SALES FY 2013(%) FY 2013(L.WK %)[/B][/U]
[B]SOFTWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 181,156 22.7% 290,301 34.0% 5,946,323 24.1% 24.2%
Vita 100,193 12.5% 49,013 5.7% 1,649,164 6.7% 6.5%
PSP 77,097 9.7% 98,250 11.5% 2,191,477 8.9% 8.9%
Wii U 111,556 14.0% 9,970 1.2% 800,916 3.2% 2.9%
Wii 9,294 1.2% 9,781 1.1% 568,102 2.3% 2.3%
3DS 313,736 39.3% 388,495 45.5% 12,991,310 52.7% 53.2%
DS 3,692 0.5% 3,907 0.5% 250,960 1.0% 1.0%
X360 1,929 0.2% 3,221 0.4% 247,867 1.0% 1.0%
Total 798,653 100.0% 852,938 100.0% 24,646,119 100.0% 100.0%
[B]HARDWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 10,263 6.1% 10,792 7.2% 372,162 9.6% 9.8%
Vita 26,396 15.8% 21,627 14.3% 470,597 12.2% 12.0%
PSP 3,828 2.3% 3,757 2.5% 176,967 4.6% 4.7%
Wii U 38,905 23.2% 2,484 1.6% 281,100 7.3% 6.6%
Wii 818 0.5% 653 0.4% 34,004 0.9% 0.9%
3DS LL 58,780 35.1% 73,019 48.4% 1,778,968 46.1% 46.6%
3DS 28,328 16.9% 38,385 25.4% 732,571 19.0% 19.1%
X360 256 0.2% 205 0.1% 10,925 0.3% 0.3%
Total 167,574 100.0% 150,922 100.0% 3,857,294 100.0% 100.0%
[B]*Note: FY 2013 refers to the period from April 2013 through March 2014[/B]For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:
What is Dengeki?
Dengeki is a website (it's also a brand of magazines / a book and manga imprint) that publishes sell-through Japanese sales data tracked by ASCII Research Institute, courtesy of ASCII Media Works, Inc. Every week they publish a nationwide snapshot of Japanese video game sales with the cooperation of more than 3,000 specialty game stores and convenience store chains all across Japan.
Why post Dengeki numbers when you have Media Create / Famitsu in the OP?
1) Unlike any other tracker, Dengeki gives us software numbers for Top 50 sales so we can track low-performing titles for a longer period of time
2) Unlike the others, Dengeki gives us total software sales for every platform, so we can track the relative health of platform software ecosystems
3) Dengeki is a respected sales tracker with 5 consecutive years of being reported each week in GAF threads
Is Dengeki less accurate than Media Create / Famitsu?
1) Dengeki is just as accurate as Media Create and Famitsu. Just because each tracker has quirks and natural deviations from the others doesn't mean one is inherently superior to the rest.
2) Dengeki is the tracker most unfamiliar to GAF / the public, and sometimes people confuse lack of dissemination with inaccuracy in sales figures
3) The amount of retail stores Dengeki tracks is similar to Media Create and Famitsu
Here are the differences between the trackers:
Media Create:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Media Create Co., Ltd.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 20 software sales with numbers
+ Top 50 software sales without numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sometimes presents sell-through figures
+ Releases first (at the same time as Famitsu)
+ Nintendo uses these numbers in their investor presentations
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not track download cards
- Does not provide software sales figures past the Top 20
Famitsu:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Enterbrain, Inc.
+ Tracks about 3,600 retail stores / chains
+ Top 30 software sales with numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through ranges for all titles
+ Has the most historical data available for GAFfers
+ Tracks download cards
+ Releases first (at the same time as Media Create)
- Does not distinguish between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not report total software sales
Dengeki:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from ASCII Research Institute.
+ Tracks more than 3,000 retail stores / chains
+ Top 50 software sales with numbers
+ Top 3 software sales per platform
+ Total software sales per platform
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through figures for a few titles
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Inconsistent data reporting over the years
- Does not track download cards
- Releases nearly 24 hours after Media Create / Famitsu
Dengeki Spreadsheet Archive
http://bit.ly/16xq86v
Dengeki Historical Sales Archive
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013
(A very special thanks to Road for making this archive possible)
Last Week's Sales Figures (Week 43, 2013, Oct 21 - Oct 27)
spatenfloot
Member
I'm still not sure how I feel about counting bundled games as sales.
1st Course
Member
Code:
Media Create
06./00. [WIU] Wii Party U <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 37.371 / NEW
Code:
Famitsu
02./00. [WIU] Wii Party U # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} (¥4.935) - 79.715 / NEW <40-60%>
06./00. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985) - 38.936 / 595.161 <80-100%>
Code:
Dengeki
2/- Wii U Wii Party U Nintendo 13/10/31 70,556 70,556
9/71 Wii U New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo 12/12/08 32,078 602,216MC is slacking.
Gaiaknight
Member
Nice to see ife in the wii u 
What this really shows me is there is interest in the system but people are just waiting for the best value before they pick one up which i cant blame them for lol.
What this really shows me is there is interest in the system but people are just waiting for the best value before they pick one up which i cant blame them for lol.spatenfloot
Member
Nintendo needs to be working on New Super Hotcakes U 3D.
I just don't see it holding any momentum next week. Expecting under 20k.
When do we get some pictures of lines for VitaTV? Just one person will be twice the number for the 2000 revision.
I just don't see it holding any momentum next week. Expecting under 20k.
When do we get some pictures of lines for VitaTV? Just one person will be twice the number for the 2000 revision.
pieatorium
Member
vita tv is 14th
michaelius
Banned
That new Monster Hunter 3DS bundle is launching today right ?
test_account
XP-39C²
I wonder if Nintendo could operate on the same level as they do now if it wasnt for 3rd party sales. Nintendo has been expanding and games are getting more expencive to develope.
There wasn't even half a person in line.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Wasn't there a pirate that accidentally walked down that path where a line was supposed to be?
The fanbase is probably annoyed that it isn't originally a PC hentai game like the first one.
Also, why is Danball Senki not dead yet? You disappoint me Japan.
Marvelous AQL earning's presentation: pdf.irpocket.com/C7844/GpH7/Ge6n/Awv7.pdf
Valhalla Knights 3 (Vita) shipment: 82k.
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{2008-07-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi - 34.376 / 55.415
{2009-07-16} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi [AquaPrice 2800] - 2.000 / 10.728
{2010-11-25} [PSP] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi Portable - 6.045 / 12.895
{2009-09-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo - 16.469 / 33.512
{2010-12-16} [PSP] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo Portable - ? / 10.134
{2013-10-31} [PS3] Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei - 24.621 / NEW
Tsutaya mentioned Japan Series, which happened last week.
It's already over Dragon's Dogma last known total: 470.141 (Famitsu).
Still tracking ahead of Yakuza 5 (Media Create):
Valhalla Knights 3 (Vita) shipment: 82k.
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{2008-07-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi - 34.376 / 55.415
{2009-07-16} [PS3] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi [AquaPrice 2800] - 2.000 / 10.728
{2010-11-25} [PSP] Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi Portable - 6.045 / 12.895
{2009-09-17} [PS3] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo - 16.469 / 33.512
{2010-12-16} [PSP] Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon no Nazo Portable - ? / 10.134
{2013-10-31} [PS3] Tears to Tiara II: Haou no Matsuei - 24.621 / NEW
Tsutaya mentioned Japan Series, which happened last week.
It's already over Dragon's Dogma last known total: 470.141 (Famitsu).
Still tracking ahead of Yakuza 5 (Media Create):
1st Course
Member
Speaking of VNs, is there any tracker that tracks PC sales in Japan? I imagine some of them like Fate/stay night must have sold really well there.
With a best version it should pass it easily.
With a best version it should pass it easily.
I dont know if it will become a trend, but wiiu already got a port of an smartphone game in togabito no senritsu. Which is a damn fine game, i must say. The problem with that approach is that those companies are only going to do the minimum and release on the eshop, with no changes whatsoever, so, wiiu retails presence is not going to get much different than it is now because of it, nor it is going to be a huge changer, since theres already cheaper ways to play those games.
That is, if the companies start to port their games, right.
And looks like Mario advertising already started. Maybe that will help the system to stay above awful levels. Also, zelda got an up of 32÷. Its nice. It shows some people waited on it, unfortunately, looks like this is the only game that got a bump.
I wonder if people on this board are too caught up in games when discussing sales. It seems to me image and hype are the bigger factor. How much is Nintendo advertising in Japan? I just walked out of a Best Buy. The Wii U section is appealing with its selection of games, bundles and prices, but of course it was barren. On the way out I saw a dad buying 3 (yes 3) PS3s, and someone else buying a 360 game. I think Nintendo needs a big marketing push that makes the Wii U more desirable to the 18+ audience that Sony and Microsoft have, because at the moment people don't even seem to care or know that it exists.
The biggest selling point for the WiiU are Nintendo games, those generally aren't very appealing to the MS/Sony crowd.
Famitsu (Enterbrain) tracks PC (or at least they used to), but numbers are hard to come by.
I just know rankings: http://pc-press.info/sales.html
You can tell by the pictures what type of PC games are the most popular in Japan...
pieatorium
Member
First day
Battlefield 40-50%
Akibastrip 40-50% vita slightly higher than ps3
Exstetra 30% vita 20% 3ds
Metal Max 30%
That snes game collection thing on 3ds 40%
Onechanbara 40%
Dream school tamagotchi - some kind of spill, maybe a broken egg?
Battlefield 40-50%
Akibastrip 40-50% vita slightly higher than ps3
Exstetra 30% vita 20% 3ds
Metal Max 30%
That snes game collection thing on 3ds 40%
Onechanbara 40%
Dream school tamagotchi - some kind of spill, maybe a broken egg?
Tamagotchi would've been better without a demo. The promotional videos are all amazing, the demo appalling.
Sammy Samusu
Member
3DS - 13.575.994
PSP - 20.021.162
This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.
Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?
3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
PSP - 20.021.162
This is going to take a while... 2015 most likely.
Around 15 million by the end of this year, and I don't see 3DS selling another 5 million in 2014, even with the help of Dragon Quest XI and a new redesign?
3DS is running out of system-sellers in Japan, it's time for Nintendo to offer SE some incentive, get that FF up and running.
shinra-bansho
Member
I thought we had all concluded that Puzzles and Dragon Quest is going to be multiplatform on smartphones anyway.
Still tracking ahead of Yakuza 5 (Media Create):
What, a Western game selling even better than a well-known Japanese franchise? Ok, Yakuza is no Monster Hunter, but that's quite impressive, really.
Looks OK for eXstetra, though I'm not expecting huge numbers. Not surprised it's selling better on Vita either, though the gap seems smaller than for Conception II (maybe because it's an original game?).
I'm surprised that retro-collection game is selling that well. I know it's just %, but I was expecting that thing to have 40% sellthrough... after 4 days, not from Day 1.
You're really setting yourself up for disappointement if you're looking forward to an FF on 3DS or rather on anything rather than the next gen consoles. The only new and original exclusive I see 3DS getting from Square is BD2.
You don't see TWEWY 2? I see at least a 3DS exclusive before an iOS version later down the road.
Sammy Samusu
Member
#JusticeForFinalFantasy
74,495 > 163.274
74,495 > 163.274
03./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Wars <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.10.31} (¥4.980) - 50.217 / NEW <60,31%>
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21./22. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800)
22./13. [PS3] FIFA 14 # <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.10.17} (¥7.665)
23./00. [PSP] Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. # <ADV> (C-Territory) {2013.10.31} (¥6.090)
24./16. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥8.379)
25./18. [3DS] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) {2013.10.24} (¥5.229)
26./17. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.10} (¥6.980)
27./27. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
28./00. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.10} (¥2.940)
29./30. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
30./24. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.615)
31./29. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800)
32./26. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800)
33./09. [PSP] Kamigami no Itazura # <ADV> (Broccoli) {2013.10.24} (¥6.090)
34./20. [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.17} (¥5.980)
35./23. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
36./12. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.10.24} (¥5.040)
37./21. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥7.480)
38./32. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300)
39./41. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.09.26} (¥5.985)
40./25. [PSV] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
41./34. [PSV] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.090)
42./00. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
43./36. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140)
44./40. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040)
45./43. [3DS] Kuma-Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
46./42. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.06} (¥1.800)
47./28. [PS3] Armored Core: Verdict Day <ACT> (From Software) {2013.09.26} (¥6.800)
48./33. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + <SPT> (Sega) {2013.10.17} (¥5.229)
49./45. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800)
50./48. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
00./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) - * / 207.000
Top 50
3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 8
WIU - 2
WII - 1
SOFTWARE
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21./22. [3DS] Youkai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800)
22./13. [PS3] FIFA 14 # <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.10.17} (¥7.665)
23./00. [PSP] Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko. # <ADV> (C-Territory) {2013.10.31} (¥6.090)
24./16. [PS3] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥8.379)
25./18. [3DS] Sonic Lost World <ACT> (Sega) {2013.10.24} (¥5.229)
26./17. [PS3] Tales of Symphonia Chronicles <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.10} (¥6.980)
27./27. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
28./00. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) # <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.10} (¥2.940)
29./30. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
30./24. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.615)
31./29. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800)
32./26. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Dream Team # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2013.07.18} (¥4.800)
33./09. [PSP] Kamigami no Itazura # <ADV> (Broccoli) {2013.10.24} (¥6.090)
34./20. [PS3] Beyond: Two Souls <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.10.17} (¥5.980)
35./23. [PS3] Fairy Fencer F # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
36./12. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 2 with Xtreme Legends & Empires HD Version # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.10.24} (¥5.040)
37./21. [PS3] Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥7.480)
38./32. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.08.27} (¥3.300)
39./41. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD <ADV> (Nintendo) {2013.09.26} (¥5.985)
40./25. [PSV] Soccer Tsuku: Pro Soccer Club! <SLG> (Sega) {2013.10.10} (¥7.329)
41./34. [PSV] Warriors Orochi 3: Ultimate # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.09.26} (¥6.090)
42./00. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
43./36. [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2013.09.26} (¥7.140)
44./40. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040)
45./43. [3DS] Kuma-Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
46./42. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.06} (¥1.800)
47./28. [PS3] Armored Core: Verdict Day <ACT> (From Software) {2013.09.26} (¥6.800)
48./33. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 8: Euro + <SPT> (Sega) {2013.10.17} (¥5.229)
49./45. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800)
50./48. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
00./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) - * / 207.000
Top 50
3DS - 17
PS3 - 14
PSP - 8
PSV - 8
WIU - 2
WII - 1
SOFTWARE
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 766.000 | 846.000 | 973.000 | 37.825.000 | 39.247.000 |
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Banned
I don't see TWEWY until KH3 is out of the way.
Sammy Samusu
Member
So the bundle was a bit popular.
Woo, over 200k.
I hope Youkai Watch becomes a million-seller for Level-5, the anime needs to happen already!
Refreshment.01
Member
I was wondering this the other day, is DQ XI targeted to the 3DS? Also i thought the DS remakes of the traditional FF games did well, what's holding up Square Enix for doing the same for the 3DS?
The only thing FF I could see is maybe the Type-0 subseries and even that looks happily smartphone bound instead of handhelds.
Bravely Default is a nice alternate though. It doesn't have the name brand but it's pretty much the most Final Fantasyish game in the ways that matter to me. So much moreso than the mainline games at this point too.
Why? That would contradict the nature of that type of game.
TWEWY was outsourced to Jupiter with only some involvement by SE staff. Therefore it was easy to do on the side since obviously as director and character designer Nomura can work on more than one project at the same time.
I don't see why a sequel would be different in that regard. The real question is, is 3DS the best platform for it since KH3D didn't do too great and the touch gameplay would maybe work better on a smart device.
KH3D underperformed in Japan but it did okay in the US. Same with TWEWY I believe.
1st Course
Member
Article about next-gen development cost and Japan:
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/west/west_economy/news/131109/wec13110912000001-n1.htm
I can't read Japanese but using the Google translation they apparently say average development cost for the PS3 was around 100m yen ($1m) per title or something like this if I understand correctly. They also expect PS4 development to be higher than PS3.
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/west/west_economy/news/131109/wec13110912000001-n1.htm
I can't read Japanese but using the Google translation they apparently say average development cost for the PS3 was around 100m yen ($1m) per title or something like this if I understand correctly. They also expect PS4 development to be higher than PS3.
I Stalk Alone
Member
oh dear.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Only Capcom and Square Enix (?) make full use of the PS3.
A lot of developers there are making yore zed low end PS2 titles.
Also given its Japan you have scenarios like the average programmer salary being 85% that of a janitor: http://www.worldsalaries.org/japan.shtml
In comparison in the West programmers are often incredibly expensive, so you're looking at quite a cost base disparity that likely applies to most if not all roles on a project.
Just how much is that, the Mega Drive, PC-Engine and Saturn had their own fanbases but saw a lot more support.
Sales goals from Sinobi:
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- Battlefield 4: 330k (PS3) 20k (360)
- Onechanbara Z Kagura: 50k (PS3)
- Akiba's Trip 2: 100k (Vita) 50k (PS3)
- Exstetra: 60k (Vita) 20k (3DS)
- J Legend Retsuden: 50k (3DS)
- Metal Max 4: 20k (Limited Ed.) 50k (Normal Ed.) (3DS)
- Medabots Dual: 140k (3DS)
- Seisou no Amazones: 20k (3DS)
- God Eater 2: 400k (Vita) 200k (PS3)
- COD Ghosts: 300k (PS3) 30k (360) 25k (WiiU)
- Winning Eleven 2014: 370k (PS3) 70k (PSP) 70k (3DS)
Aquamarine
Member
Just look at those expectations a few posts above...20K sales expectations for the Year of the Amazoness RPG at 6,090 JPY ($61.42)? That's a gross profit of $1,228,480 and a net of $600,000 (50% to publisher is just a random estimate)...apparently this is a figure that Arc System Works is happy with.
But are niche and mid-tier retail developers (aka. not Square Enix, Sega Sammy, Capcom, Nintendo, Konami, Namco Bandai or Sony) going to transition over to the PS4 with those PS2-quality titles? Or are the expectations for PS4 too different than PS3 for niche Japanese developers to switch from PS3 / Vita (for retail titles)?
In the article they were talking about soaring development costs and the vicious cycle that accompanies it (companies produce "safe" titles to recoup extravagant development cost, take less risks as a result, and the sequel sells less than the predecessor). But as you pointed out, few companies in Japan are taking the "skyrocketing development costs" seriously.
Many have stopped caring about the latest and greatest graphics...for the sake of maintaining a strict budget.
I keep worrying that these companies have reached a plateau in terms of aspirations...i.e. they're not going to move onto the next iteration of consoles...and they'll stay behind on mobile, PS3 and handhelds where there is fully-realized, reduced expectations of where graphics must be.
When I imagine the "plateau" of mid-tier Japanese graphics, I think of Toukiden for the Vita...clearly a step up from the PS2 generation, but nowhere near graphically intensive...and perhaps inappropriate as a retail title for the PS4?
This ties into concerns about the health of the Japanese console market as a whole. With the Wii U doing incredibly poorly and the Xbox One setting itself up to fail (in terms of third-party relations), does this set the PS4 up to take the reigns from the PS3? Or is it filling a need that doesn't exist?