perfectchaos007
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I hope Nintendo's plan of action for Wii U will be more significant and effective than Sony's for Vita. As a WiiU owner, I'm already concerned about it's 3rd party support and longevity.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2012 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
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DXB-KNIGHT
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NSMB 2 being > NSMB U is a crime 
I know new system and such but its painful to watch
I know new system and such but its painful to watch
NSMB 2 being > NSMB U is a crime
I know new system and such but its painful to watch
Umm it's not THAT bad! It has recycled music, yes, but it has many redeeming qualities (including portability).
Wow, I wonder why? Software not good, or just bad experiences? I do wonder if the day one update, super slow OS and crashes were just too much.
If you mean Western titles it's not looking good.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
Well a lot seemed unopened. Maybe scalpers exist in Japan too
perfectchaos007
Member
I'm American so...yeah. And I already have accepted the best eastern Nintendo titles won't be translated/ported to my region locked console. It took 5 years of begging Reggie just to give us Xenoblade for Christs sake. And we never even got Disaster Day of Crisis etc. etc.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I know it's not bad, but I enjoyed U more since every level was unique while 2 was mostly COINS COINS COINS so if felt more like a challenge mode to collect coins first a 2D Mario game second.
I'd think it would double next week, no?
This is a pretty interesting analysis.
It´s getting even worse if we compare it to WiiU which sold 80k units the same week.
That would be amazing for any system much less a launch system, so no.
I wouldn't be surprised with another 80k week in Week 1, then the descent to ~20k a week excluding major game releases.
Last years week 52 didn't have Christmas Eve.
Hmm. Could it be that Nintendo is deliberately following the 3DS pattern? lol
As in, year of weakness, then price drop, and Iwata maintains his salary cut lol.
Then Wii U soars to gaming heaven.
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
That's definitely an...interesting theory.
MasterSheen
Member
oconnomiyaki
Member
I can't help shake the feeling that the Wii U's own worst enemy is the 3DS. Not really in the sense that if you took the machine away the Wii U is still the best selling machine, but in the sense that the hype behind the 3DS is at such levels that's it's more desirable and people only have so much to spend. Didn't Iwata say something recently about how people plonking down 20,000 Yen in such numbers was unheard of? So can you imagine people going out to get a 3DS and also slapping down the cash for a Wii U at the same time?
perfectchaos007
Member
I hope so. If there aren't a boat load of titles near the end of their development for Wii U then what the hell have Nintendo's first parties been working on with the console front for the past 2 or 3 years? They sure as hell weren't working on Wii titles!
Only if Iwata is too scared to quit and so wants to be fired.
In 2011 PSV did even worse than this years PS3, ~40k (week52).
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
Hopefully soon and actually introduces new games.
If there just gonna reshuffle their release window then they shouldn't bother with a Direct especially if its something like
Pikmin 3 April, Game & Wario June Wonderful 101 September and Don't forget we have Nintendo Land and NSMB 2 and Mass Effect 3 plus Batman "All new content" edition.
that's literally been the format of almost every nintendo direct so far
don't expect any new game announcements. at the most we'll get concrete dates on pikmin, g&w and wonderful 101 with some new footage. wait til e3 for new game announcements.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think we were due one in December, but I'm guessing Nintendo will wait now until after their financial briefing (due end of this month.)
If I recall, they did something similar previously too.
Actually that's not quite true. There have been quite a few key announcements and reveals detailed right up through to the announcement of the 3DS XL post E3 last year.
Since then, though, they've been literally recycling details about a handful of games.
perfectchaos007
Member
The concerning part being that Nintendo vowed they learned their lessons from the 3DS launch woes.
MasterSheen
Member
Looks like PS2 and DS is gone. Total LTD cell is gonna look a lot smaller now.
They did... somewhat. Just not all the lessons, apparently.
i think most of the lessons to take away from the 3ds's initial (and ongoing) problems were too late to change for the wii u. the similar name and design causing brand confusion being a big one.
shinra-bansho
Member
Wii U in line with what I expected. They're going to need something to buffer the fall.
Pity that throwing the NSMB U at the start of a launch didn't go as well as expected for them. I just hope the next Nintendo direct doesn't fail.
I think Wii U numbers are going to keep falling week by week. No new releases in sight, stores around me are flooded with consoles (both new and used), amazon has started lowering the price on it ever so slightly, lackluster to negative reviews by many Japanese gamers is not spreading good word of mouth, etc etc etc.
perfectchaos007
Member
How? The 2 key issues for 3DS's lackluster launch sales were due to price point and game titles.
Yes the WiiU launched at a much more reasonable price than the 3DS, but it wasn't low enough to reach the impulse buy threshold that the 360 and PS3 are already at. And as for the launch lineup, Japan's may have been passable with MH3, but in America it was essentially just NintendoLand, SMBU, ZombiU, and a lot of multiplatform games. Had WiiU launched with Pikmin, maybe it would have been passable here as well. Nintendo is going to have to claw themselves out of the launch rut yet again....they did it with 3DS, but do they have the resources to do it again?
Oh yes, there was also that. Wii 2 or Super Wii would have been a Billion times better name than Wii U. Product differentiation how does it work?
The holiday season is about to end. All platforms will fall after next week.
Well you pretty much just said what I was thinking :lol
What can they do? Western pubs currently aren't giving a shit, I doubt they will want to price cut like 3ds again, and they are stuck with the hardware they have. They seem to be focussing on Japan so maybe they'll get software rolling there and be OK.
These would have been relatively simply to change if they really wanted to. They had 18 months from their lukewarm and widely chastised E3 reveal to rename/brand it and ensure clear marketing.
In fact, it's nicknamed the "Super Wii" in some promotional materials. I'm not sure why they chickened out on that name.
test_account
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Out of curiousity, why are you expecting the new PS3 Slim to increase hardware sales when the price is the same , and when the revision gives no clear advantage over the older PS3 Slim?
Only one of them launched a month ago.
shinra-bansho
Member
Are you actually surprised a system at its seventh holiday is seeing declines?
I didn´t expect an increase. I´m just stating the fact that there has been a sharp decline compared to last year and that the new model wasn´t of any significant help.
It had 2 atrocius first years and a userbase of barely 8.5m. There actually is alot room to improve.