Here in Australia they slashed the Xbox price in half to the same price as the GameCube.
Europe may have been similiar.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2012 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)
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Here in Australia they slashed the Xbox price in half to the same price as the GameCube.
Europe may have been similiar.
Well then what was supposed to increase PS3 sales YOY for Q3+Q4?
I'm using their own stated forecast, which was just reaffirmed 2 months ago. They knew they didn't have a price drop coming, and hardware sales had been declining YOY for the first half of the year. Why did they expect the sales pattern to reverse over the back half of the year if the new hardware model wasn't expected to play a role? That was the only significant change in the equation (because the software release schedule wasn't any better than the previous holiday season).
Its Sonys public forecast. To sell 9.7M PS3s+PS2s from Oct-Mar. Last year they did 9.9.
Maybe its his assumption that Sony expected the new PS3 model to do some work to keep interest up instead of [....], but its a reasonable assumption.
How did you said, forecast not showed exactly that; sony is not in a good conditions to release pessimist forecast, looks how 'ambiguous' are their expectations. So, the better thing for them is to stay vague, are you surprise about that?
If they don't drop the price, the sales in the UK will be as bad as the Vita. No Gamers except Nintendo fans are buying Wii U consoles.
And I am sure in Japan its the same situation, despite Iwata's steady sales claim.
Retailers cannot afford to have slow selling stock occupying vital store shelf space.
It's not vague. The forecast is 16M. We know last year's numbers, and we know they've stopped PS2 production completely at this point. What are you failing to understand?
If you go with this comparison yes, both NSMB U & Nintendo Land would chart in this top 10,but I'm not sure it would make sense, except to point the weak Sony's first party offer for Japan.
They are talking of ps3+ps2, do you see it's not pretty clear what they want to predict? why they haven't released a clear ps3 prediction if they have stopped ps2 production?
Opus Angelorum
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So PSVita is just over 70k for the five week period?
shinra-bansho
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Presumably it was.
Just not in the territories in which its ASP didn't change or actually increaded (US, iirc).
The PS3 in the UK/Europe prior to the Super Slim was ~£199/€249. A PS3 (+game in UK) can now be bought for £149/€199. With even better deals during the Christmas period iirc from the PAL threads.
Sammy Samusu
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MH3U Wii U
16.773 > 14.494 (-13%)
LEGEND! Growing with the install base, I see you!
MH3U 3DS
24.846 > 24.171 (-2%)
PREACH! Plus many digital copies sold!
16.773 > 14.494 (-13%)
LEGEND! Growing with the install base, I see you!
MH3U 3DS
24.846 > 24.171 (-2%)
PREACH! Plus many digital copies sold!
YAS
It's pretty clear they started PS3+PS2 because it was blatantly obvious that they were trying to hide the Vita failure when they started combining PSV+PSP. So they then started combining both sets of systems to make it look like their new corporate policy so it wouldn't look like such a blatant obfuscation of the Vita performance.
But yeah, most of that 16M will be the PS3, because they've been shutting down the PS2 production facilities all year. And the PS3 sold 13.9M last year by itself. And the PS3 was down YOY the first 6 months of this year.
Add it all up, and we know that as of November they expected the PS3 to sell more (or at least equal) this year than last year, even though the PS3 was already behind last year's pace after 6 months.
The only significant new addition to the mix this holiday season was the new PS3 model - so unless you have another suggestion, it seems quite clear that Sony expected the new PS3 model to make the difference.
Yeah, but there are always some sweet deals in the holiday season. There were some pretty sweet deals on the PS3 (and all systems) here in North America last holiday season as well.
(Oops, double post)
You're absolutely right. Still, we are comparing 3 weeks x a whole year and 700k vs 8500k
I don't want to repeat myself, you can read again my post below to understand what I think sony expected:
but it's my opinion, of course.
As far as I can tell, you never did come out and say why you think Sony expects the PS3 to sell better in Q3+Q4 YOY if it's not because of the new model.
Why do you think they expected that?
Honestly I don't know. The only thing I can presume, they tried to release a more optimist forecast possible because they haven't too much choice.
buy some financially weak companies maybe?
test_account
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I see, fair enough =) When you said "even with a new model", that "even" can easily be interpreted as more is expected, that is why i asked.
Isnt next week the biggest selling week of the year?
Sammy Samusu
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Old? Nintendo to post financial results on Jan 30.
Gianni Merryman
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Yeah, Wii U is not to be expected to nosedive on 1st week 2013, still it is bound to drop in following weeks; even considering NSMU's legs, W101, Pikmin 3, Game & Wario, Wii U fit, Rayman and DQX cannot sustain sales at these levels for next 6 months.
How did this become about the PS3? Probably the least interesting numbers this month. I see nothing noteworthy in them. Old system sells less. Probably making Sony a bit more per system with the new design. That's the real reason for changing it.
And I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but next year it will sell less than this year.
Interesting numbers this month are WiiU, Vita and 3DS. And all for different reasons. Hope this weird PS3 tangent doesn't carry over to the New MC thread.
And I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but next year it will sell less than this year.
Interesting numbers this month are WiiU, Vita and 3DS. And all for different reasons. Hope this weird PS3 tangent doesn't carry over to the New MC thread.
the androgyne
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test_account
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Yep, it shall be interesting to see the upcoming sales
Yes, which is the main reason why used games took off so early in Japan because they're basically an alternative to renting, with the high buy back prices that were established in reaction to the rental ban. But for DQX they made an exception, as urfe already said. You can also buy the game after some weeks of renting for a lower price than new, even if you add what you already paid for the rent.
Also, the offline mode can still be played even after returning the disc so I guess they're also trying to get more people to at least play the offline part. Maybe the original idea was that people who bought the game gave the offline part to their friends for free (there's a slime in a well telling players about what they're missing out on by not playing the online part, obviously meant as a sneaky way of promoting the full game).
You must have missed this:
In other words, the Wii U price is inhibiting NSMBU's potential as a system seller.
Obviously. But it's been getting some pretty notable titles and very early at that. Mario and DQ can sell a console at the right price. Which they missed. Lesson not quite learned.
Of course, they should have made enough games instead. If that had been possible they wouldn't need NSMBU though. Asking for the impossible is not a viable solution. A lower price on the other hand would help and would pave the way for more software releases later.
JoshuaJSlone
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If they were going to have nearly a million more available for Q4 than Wii had, I don't know why they'd choose to give Wii U one less December week in Japan than Wii had.