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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2013 (Dec 23 - Dec 29)
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metalslimer
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Last year Wii U- 70,662
It seems to be pretty much following the same path. Probably below 20k this week
PSV did really well.
It seems to be pretty much following the same path. Probably below 20k this week
PSV did really well.
I don't think they were dissapointed with SV sales though. So maybe they're trying to expand the series, or the game is focusing on competitive online mode. Funny thing is SV is marked as a PSV/PS3 game in the trophies, was that really a mistake?
I would be shocked if they were disappointed but it really feels like all of the games on a Sony platform that should be exclusive are being made multiplat and I don't like that.
Mmm mmm. Lovely stuff.
Magicpaint
Member
Dat Sony bump! Good numbers for PS3/V, but like with the bump WiiU enjoyed it won't last and week 2 we'll see huge drops for all systems involved. I hate Week 2 -_-
January is usually one of the most boring month for sales, there's barely anything to discuss because nobody releases anything and you have massive drops from the holidays season.
from what I remember, usually N platforms go down at week 1. Am I wrong? What about 3DS drop?
I always find that a bit surprising, .
For the 3DS (the Wii U is a different beast altogether), I think New Year was pretty favourable too, but sales being so high for Christmas, it "nullified" any potential boost. I mean, it was over 200k last week, and I have no doubt the drop would've been much worse if not for New Year.On the other end, PS3 went only from 27k to 41k.
By the way, makes me wonder whether Famitsu/MC are gonna stop tracking Wii starting with W1.
Nintendo 3DS went up in 2012 and 2013 Week 1. First time it drops, not s good sign.
Week 1 2012
3DS | 240.819 | 197.952
Week 1 2013
3DS # | 279.259 | 250.205
I would suspect so.
Nintendo is big with families and younger audiences so they would get a bigger holiday gift boost.
Teenagers or individuals using holiday money to buy for themselves are more likely to end up with a PlayStation given their current line-up, especially since they likely bought a 3ds ages ago if they wanted one.
Magicpaint
Member
Yeah. At least we have Kirby - I'm expecting good numbers from that...
Yeah I was expecting a slight bump too. 3DS numbers all holiday have been very disappointing. But then again it had Animal Crossing last year.
That seems legit
Last week, it had the Zelda bundle that boosted the figure: without it, I suppose it would have been around 190-195k. Basically around the amount of this week.
...And how can 190k being sold in week 1 be considered bad? Checking past years, that's a pretty high value for this week.
Too bad it's releasing on a Saturday... how come by the way? It's hardly the big game people would skip school/work for
It should at least ease the pain of Week 2...
@MPL90 : oh, I forgot about the Zelda bundle. So yeah, it's pretty cool for the 3DS, though I'm afraid W2 will have it drop below 100k... I doubt Kirby is the kind of game to boost hardware sales.
I can't create threads yet, but this is big, especially for Nintendo, I'd say:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25635719
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25635719
It's a platform in decline.
At least, I hope it is. That way they might push the boat out a little more with the hardware on their next system.
Magicpaint
Member
Captain Smoker
Member
I don't understand this logic.
I hope they earn less money to spend more money on their next system.
I don't know if it's going to help hardware, but I feel it'll have a debut among the greatest ones for the series. Comgnet preorders were just slightly under those of SuperStar Ultra on DS, and with the current Comgnet ratios, that could even mean a...300k+ opening?
That would be amazing for Kirby.
I'll wait until see the software ranking. If games are up, I won't have complains even hardware is down. If software is also down, that's bad.
Magicpaint
Member
At this point in the 3DS' lifespan very little will push hardware sales in the bulk so yeah. But I was thinking maybe 250k+? 300k+ seems really high for Kirby o_0
As a consumer it makes more sense to me than 'I hope they make a decent amount of money off sub-par hardware'.
I just want Nintendo hardware that I can actually look forward to and enjoy using. With Sony out of the handheld game and iOS controller adoption being hobbled by the ridiculous pricing, it's starting to look like high-end handhelds started and ended with the Vita. What a pisser.
wouldn't it be strange to see SW up with less HW sold, on a weekly base?
Well, it's not like this year was empty. I'd have thought that it should have done more wirh Pokemon, MH4 and Pazudora.
I really wouldn't worry about the 3DS, Nintendo is quite certainly going to do something this year (price drop? new model?). They're not going to let sales drop without doing anything right now.
I really hope so. By the way, the other day, I realised that Kirby was pretty much the only Nintendo franchise, with Mario and Zelda, to have had 1) frequent release since the first game, 2) not huge gap between releases (think Metroid for example). It's definitely one of Nintendo's "ever-green" franchises, and you're never gonna see people say stuff like 'OMG, it's been so long since the last Kirby game, it's dead!!'.
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By the way, almost forgot : looks like that Touch Detective spin-off is getting a re-release on March 13th. There's still the 3rd game coming out this Spring, but we haven't heard anything about it in a looooong while.
mpl90 said last week hardware was bigger cause the Zelda bundle. So if that's the cause, there's possibility for software to be up
High end portables are a bad idea when people want cheap products.
The high specs race is a high risk game. There will always be someone who will try again. But who knows, maybe someone will one day succeed and the market will default to premium products costing in the excess of $400.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Nintendo went comparatively high-spec this time. If Vita (the completely high-end handheld) pushes Sony out of the handheld-business and the 3DS performs weaker than Nintendo expects, what direction do you think will that push Nintendo into? I'd like the 3DS successor to have about the same jump over PSV as 3DS had over PSP, but for that to happen, the 3DS needs to succeed, otherwise Nintendo will probably take a closer look at GBA and DS and conclude that aiming for a lower price will help them more than the technological leap.
A technological jump over Vita comparable to Vita's over PSP is out of the quetion though. First, I doubt this would result in a big advantage graphically, second, the battery drain would just be too much, third, the price would be just too high, especially if Nintendo wants to make progress on other fronts, too (which they should always strive for).
Aye, sadly this much is clear. If anything, I expect the next Nintendo handheld to aim for a much lower launch pricepoint and be even further behind other mobile devices than the 3DS is now.
Fucking market realities
Bruno MB
Member
Code:
WEEKLY HARDWARE SALES
GAMECUBE WII U
2002-11-18 32.099 2013-11-18 20.177
2002-11-25 30.341 2013-11-25 27.325
2002-12-02 39.849 2013-12-02 46.773
2002-12-09 44.902 2013-12-09 72.982
2002-12-16 66.410 2013-12-16 119.159
2002-12-23 60.290 2013-12-23 79.174
2002-12-30 71.945 2013-12-30 61.000
2003-01-06 13.526 2014-01-06I really wouldn't worry about the 3DS, Nintendo is quite certainly going to do something this year (price drop? new model?). They're not going to let sales drop without doing anything right now.
I really hope so. By the way, the other day, I realised that Kirby was pretty much the only franchise, with Mario and Zelda, to have had 1) frequent release since the first game, 2) not huge gap between releases (think Metroid for example). It's definitely one of Nintendo's "ever-green" franchises, and you're never gonna see people say stuff like 'OMG, it's been so long since the last Kirby game, it's dead!!'.
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By the way, almost forgot : looks like that Touch Detective spin-off is getting a re-release on March 13th. There's still the 3rd game coming out this Spring, but we haven't heard anything about it in a looooong while.
About re-releases...and about boobies (they're always pertinent to any subject!)
Senran Kagura Burst (Best Collection)
March 6th
2,838 Yen
Magicpaint
Member
Pokemon and MH4 created big bumps during their respective releases. People didn't wait until the holidays to buy a 3DS for them. Animal Crossing basically opened up a whole new demographic to the 3DS while these other games are more 'traditional' titles. It's going to be harder as the userbase increases to create sustaining system sellers.
By the time the 3DS successor comes out they' should be able to make a good enough leap and give the device a decent price.
Aye, sadly this much is clear. If anything, I expect the next Nintendo handheld to aim for a much lower launch pricepoint and be even further behind other mobile devices than the 3DS is now.
Fucking market realities
Sucks. I think it would have been wiser to create a line of Ipod touch like products that served as their handheld line. Each time an Xperia released, they released a phoneless play version.
2014 is already the time when LPDDR4 RAM, in packs of 4GB, will be used in Samsung devices. They definitively can do that.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
So we can see the result of focussing solely on Mario instead of having Resident Evil Zero, Zelda Wind Waker on top of Mario Sunshine and Mario Party
? I think Nintendo set themselves up for a bad start into the new year by offering nothing directly targeting teenagers and younger adults this year. I know their situation is such that it would hardly have been possible, but it's interesting anyway.Can't see the reason, honestly. Last week there was an HW bundle, this week (without the HW bundle) is similar to the previous one, so why should we see more sw sold? also considering that the brand new softwre (Zelda) seems sold out (I've seen it reported here many times)
This.
And to Smokey: I understand personal feelings and preferences, but N is still alive because it's somehow conservative, compared to the new competitors (MS and Sony), can't be really compared in terms of structure, nature, business model and so on. It is what it is: a videogame company that has only that business to succed/survive. an high-end spec top notch console (expensive or sold at a loss) in the actual business (not the old one with Atari, Sega or whoever) would be a suicide
EDIT: Oh, and don't be silly with that "Sony out of portable market" thing!
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Finally sold most of its shipment, and with no price collapse from what I've seen in Amazon/marketplace. While way down from BiS, it wasn't a failure (at least in Japan, no clue about numbers for the rest of the world...)
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
There were almost seven years between DS and 3DS, chances are high it will be less this time. So of course they won't offer the same tech again. How big the jump ends up being is up for debate though. They could very well aim for sub-Vita specs to achieve a price of around 150/$/(*100 Yen). Also depending on the progress in battery tech and whatever their next special feature is going to be.
Magicpaint
Member
EDIT: Oh, and don't be silly with that "Sony out of portable market" thing!
Yeah that reeks of melodrama to me...if anything I think they'll adapt their next effort to the current realities of the mobile space. The Vita wasn't created with that in mind. What that means though, well, we'll see. But I'm thinking something more elaborate than the Xperia line.
I totally foresee a 200/$(*100Yen) maximum launch price, for a Vita-like HW or a 150bucks for a slighlty-less-powerful-than-Vita device, at launch.
I'd prefer the first one, maybe waiting for a bundle.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
That would be no problem if whatever new feature the new handheld offers is cheap. If it ends up being cheap however, is not clear.