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Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2014 (Feb 03 - Feb 09)

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Total sales of Puyo Puyo Tetris are 68.000. Dragon Quest Monsters 2 didn't have shortage instead of Monster 1

01./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.05.31} (¥5.490) - 513.183 / NEW <93,96%>

p.s. Another multiplatform sold more on 360.


Media Create Sales: Week 6, 2014 (Feb 03 - Feb 09)

01./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2014.02.06} (¥5.490) - 443.656 / NEW <78,65%>
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21./14. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.10.17} (¥4.980)
22./19. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985)
23./12. [PS3] Saints Row IV <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) {2014.01.23} (¥5.980)
24./22. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800)
25./00. [WIU] Puyo Puyo Tetris <PZL> (Sega) {2014.02.06} (¥5.229)
26./18. [PS3] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140)
27./15. [PS3] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.01.23} (¥7.480)
28./23. [PSV] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster: Twin Pack # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.26} (¥7.140)
29./25. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800)
30./27. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.11.14} (¥7.980)
31./21. [PSV] Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2014.01.23} (¥6.480)
32./08. [3DS] Toushin Toshi <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2014.01.30} (¥6.279)
33./00. [PS3] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Memorial Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.02.05} (¥6.090)
34./30. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
35./26. [PS3] Battlefield 4 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} (¥7.665)
36./31. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800)
37./29. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980)
38./32. [3DS] Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai 2 # <ACT> (Sega) {2013.11.28} (¥6.279)
39./38. [WIU] Taiko no Tatsujin: Wii U Version! # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480)
40./00. [360] Fable Anniversary <RPG> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2014.02.06} (¥3.990)
41./28. [WIU] Wii Fit U # <HOB> (Nintendo) {2014.02.01} (¥5.985)
42./34. [3DS] Aikatsu! Futari no My Princess <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.480)
43./35. [3DS] Disney Magic World # <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.01} (¥5.480)
44./41. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
45./36. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go Galaxy: Big Bang / Supernova <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.12.05} (¥5.500)
46./50. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited World Red # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.21} (¥5.980)
47./37. [PSV] God Eater 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.11.14} (¥5.980)
48./39. [3DS] Kuma Tomo <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.06.20} (¥4.980)
49./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Memorial Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.02.05} (¥6.090)
50./45. [PS3] Call of Duty: Ghosts - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2013.12.12} (¥7.980)

Top 50

3DS - 22
PS3 - 14
PSV - 8
WIU - 4
360 - 2

SOFTWARE
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    941.000 |    845.000 |  1.337.000 |  5.436.000 |  5.768.000 |
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Koren

Member
About Puyo Puyo Tetris...

Thanks for the clarification. Seems Wii U owners don't like the game then.
Wii U numbers are just half those of PS3 version. I'm pretty sure it's a game that people will more often buy on a portable.

I just hope they decide to publish it in EU (I really hate region-locking on Nintendo consoles)
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
About Puyo Puyo Tetris...


Wii U numbers are just half those of PS3 version. I'm pretty sure it's a game that people will more often buy on a portable.

I just hope they decide to publish it in EU (I really hate region-locking on Nintendo consoles)

Apparently it's retail only on PS3, so you can't even DL it there... region-locking wouldn't really make a difference unless you import it...
 

Takao

Banned
Frontier is clearly a dying game, and the platform expansions seemingly haven't helped the subscriber base in Japan. Based on the sales of the Wii U releases (~5k for the starter set) I'm kind of surprised Capcom is even continuing given the drop offs further expansions will have.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Frontier is clearly a dying game, and the platform expansions seemingly haven't helped the subscriber base in Japan. Based on the sales of the Wii U releases (~5k for the starter set) I'm kind of surprised Capcom is even continuing given the drop offs further expansions will have.

Wasn't there an expansion like 3 months back anyhow? It seems too quick to me imo... Are the expansions not downloadable?
 

Sandfox

Member
Comgnet chain stores preorders comparison, as of February 14th, 2014

[PS3] Yakuza Kenzan - 198pt
[PS3] Yakuza 4 - 474pt
[PS3] Yakuza 5 - 374pt
[PS3] Yakuza Ishin - 139pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 64pt

[PSP] Kuroko's Basketball: Games of Miracles - 40pt
[3DS] Kuroko's Basketball: Miraculous Victory - 61pt

[3DS] Harvest Moon: A New Beginning - 37pt
[3DS] Harvest Moon: Connecting to a New World - 55pt

[PS3] Battlefield 4 - 120pt
[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 30pt

[PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - 163pt + 26pt (Premium Pack) = 189pt
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 28pt
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 20pt

PS4 v.s. recent launches: 8 days to go

[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles - 169pt
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - 52pt
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles - 51pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Shiba & New Friends - 36pt

[PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 54pt
[PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 39pt
[PSV] Dynasty Warriors NEXT - 31pt

[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 156pt
[WIU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Version - 65pt

[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 64pt
[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 30pt
[PS4] Killzone: Shadow Fall - 19pt
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 8: Extreme Legends - 16pt*

** = latest known value, since game out of top 20 today, with 20th being 18pt

Notes: I accept suggestions about what to put in the Ground Zeroes comparison the next time. Portable Ops? Open to hear your opinion.
Notes 2: Dem PS4 games low preorders.

The Harvest Moon number is amazing and it looks like the ads are paying off lol
 

antibolo

Banned
I tried the PS3 and Vita demos of Puyo Puyo Tetris and have trouble understanding why it's a 4000+ yen retail game and not a digital-only game for less than half the price. But apparently the Japanese gamers don't really mind.
 
Frontier is clearly a dying game, and the platform expansions seemingly haven't helped the subscriber base in Japan. Based on the sales of the Wii U releases (~5k for the starter set) I'm kind of surprised Capcom is even continuing given the drop offs further expansions will have.
The client can be downloaded for free, so I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of new players skip the retail release.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
03./00. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns <ACT> (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} (¥5.800) - 163.310 / NEW <56,63%>
01./00. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 104.569 / NEW <54,34%>

For what this worths A-Train 3D > Tropical Freeze at gamesmaya
 
03./00. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns <ACT> (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} (¥5.800) - 163.310 / NEW <56,63%>
01./00. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 104.569 / NEW <54,34%>

For what this worths A-Train 3D > Tropical Freeze at gamesmaya

what's that
I'm guessing it's hilariously niche
 
I take it you can just download the expansions too?
Well, the news sites have been describing the new stuff as updates, rather than major expansions, so it doesn't sound Capcom is charging for them. They've already got subscription fees and microtransactions after all.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Well, the news sites have been describing the new stuff as updates, rather than major expansions, so it doesn't sound Capcom is charging for them. They've already got subscription fees and microtransactions after all.
They are not expansions, just the same game with new habilities or weapons and without the fee for a while, just like the first one.

GG is going to be an expansion.
 
03./00. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns <ACT> (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} (¥5.800) - 163.310 / NEW <56,63%>
01./00. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 104.569 / NEW <54,34%>

For what this worths A-Train 3D > Tropical Freeze at gamesmaya

Sub 30k opening....nah not happening. I'm going to say 50k.
 
Comgnet chain stores preorders comparison, as of February 14th, 2014

[PS3] Yakuza Kenzan - 198pt
[PS3] Yakuza 4 - 474pt
[PS3] Yakuza 5 - 374pt
[PS3] Yakuza Ishin - 139pt
[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 64pt

[PSP] Kuroko's Basketball: Games of Miracles - 40pt
[3DS] Kuroko's Basketball: Miraculous Victory - 61pt

[3DS] Harvest Moon: A New Beginning - 37pt
[3DS] Harvest Moon: Connecting to a New World - 55pt

[PS3] Battlefield 4 - 120pt
[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 30pt

[PS3] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - 163pt + 26pt (Premium Pack) = 189pt
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 28pt
[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 20pt

PS4 v.s. recent launches: 8 days to go

[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles - 169pt
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - 52pt
[3DS] Samurai Warriors Chronicles - 51pt
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Shiba & New Friends - 36pt

[PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 54pt
[PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 39pt
[PSV] Dynasty Warriors NEXT - 31pt

[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 156pt
[WIU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Version - 65pt

[PS4] Yakuza Ishin - 64pt
[PS4] Battlefield 4 - 30pt
[PS4] Killzone: Shadow Fall - 19pt
[PS4] Dynasty Warriors 8: Extreme Legends - 16pt*

** = latest known value, since game out of top 20 today, with 20th being 18pt

Notes: I accept suggestions about what to put in the Ground Zeroes comparison the next time. Portable Ops? Open to hear your opinion.
Notes 2: Dem PS4 games low preorders.

But... but..
 
Yesterday heavy snowfall in Tokyo, today wind and rain, most train and subway lines delayed or stopped
Maybe this will affect sales ?
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
03./00. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns <ACT> (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} (¥5.800) - 163.310 / NEW <56,63%>
01./00. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.06.13} (¥4.800) - 104.569 / NEW <54,34%>

For what this worths A-Train 3D > Tropical Freeze at gamesmaya

What is GamesMaya? A chain of stores? A single store? A reporting agency like Media create?
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Hmm just noticed that Mario Kart 8 has an MSRP of 6155 yen compared to the usual 5985 (Mario 3D World + Donkey Kong)?

Nintendo increasing prices for Wii U games going forward? Have you heard anything on that front Chris?
 
SS

ßig

Unconfirmed Member
Hmm just noticed that Mario Kart 8 has an MSRP of 6155 yen compared to the usual 5985 (Mario 3D World + Donkey Kong)?

Nintendo increasing prices for Wii U games going forward? Have you heard anything on that front Chris?

Consumption tax increase? 5 to 8% on April 1.
 

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
Hmm just noticed that Mario Kart 8 has an MSRP of 6155 yen compared to the usual 5985 (Mario 3D World + Donkey Kong)?

Could be related to sales tax increasing by 3 points from April 1st.

3% on 5985 is 180¥ = 6165¥

edit: beaten

Yes, sounds like the perfect excuse for Donkey Kong in next weeks thread.

Why does it always have to be some kind of excuse, even going as far as having posts like this one, damage-controlling the chance there'll be (supposedly) damage-control next week...

That kind of weather, not heat-waves and crap like that, sounds like a reasonable way to explain why next week's releases (and not just DK) will be lower than what they might have been, not so much an "excuse". Unless you're a paranoid fanboy going after other fanboys, of course.

Moor-Angol was just reporting an interesting tidbit, he didn't even mention DK in his post.
In the end what will count are the numbers and the numbers only, you could have Godzilla attack Japan but that wouldn't help making a bomb into a sales success story anyway. It's not like we don't know if DK will bomb, 'cause it will. That doesn't mean we can't even discuss such things without having the words spin, excuse, damage control and the like thrown at us.

What would be good fw numbers for DKCTP anyway? DKCR sold 160k+ on Wii (half its shipments) when the market was much more receptive of 2D platformers and going gaga about this kind of forgotten classics "reboots", all of that has shown signs of over saturation since a while ago.
First week sales won't mean much, problem will be in its LTD.
 
I tried the PS3 and Vita demos of Puyo Puyo Tetris and have trouble understanding why it's a 4000+ yen retail game and not a digital-only game for less than half the price. But apparently the Japanese gamers don't really mind.

I like that it has a retail release, it'll quite likely be the last time either a Puyo Puyo or Tetris game gets one. :(
 

Soriku

Junior Member
Seeing Comgnet numbers, PS4 is going to bomb so hard in Japan.

Well it's not like it has the greatest library at launch. The two major Japanese games it has are Yakuza and MGS. Yakuza being on PS3 in addition to PS4 and MGS also on PS3 (doesn't seem like it's going to do too well on PS3 too) and it's a 90 min-2 hour "demo".

PS4 is definitely riding on its third party support, and well, games like Tales and Persona are still on PS3.
 
PS4 caught Japanese developers with their pants down and I can't imagine how.

Either Sony shopped it to them late (which doesn't seem unlikely) or they decided not to/were not able to commit enough resources to it to meet a 2014 launch. Even past the launch, they haven't really detailed what a next-gen 2014 looks like from Japanese developers.

Another possibility, which might be the most insane possibility, is that they are specifically taking a wait-and-see approach and have seemingly learned nothing from the last eight years.
 

Ratrat

Member
How fast third party support comes depends on how much the PS4 bombs. It's a neverending cycle.
This has been argued to death but where exactly is the support going to go if not ps4? All the big guys that want to sell in the west have but one option.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
200, 300 or 400k first week(end) sales of PS4 don't mean much. Sales one month later are the important are right now they are heading to be low.

We are one week away by the way.
 
This has been argued to death but where exactly is the support going to go if not ps4? All the big guys that want to sell in the west have but one option.

It doesn't have to really go anywhere. It can change in subtle ways.

Take Deep Down, for instance. That is a game that is clearly taking cues from Dragon's Dogma, but definitely is not a new Dragon's Dogma. It is a F2P downloadable game. Capcom made a choice to make that game and not a Dragon's Dogma 2, or a Devil May Cry 5, or what have you, games that would get people pretty damn excited about a launch. They are banking on a new model to justify expense because the days of make-it-sell-it-move-on are over.

Capcom doesn't have to go anywhere for their output to no longer excite anyone or slow down in terms of the number of releases. They could be a one-off example or the start of a trend, who knows.
 

Steel

Banned
This has been argued to death but where exactly is the support going to go if not ps4? All the big guys that want to sell in the west have but one option.

There aren't many big guys that still want to sell in the west though. I mean, you've got Square and Capcom. Sega with Atlus. From will do their thing. That's pretty much it.
 

Into

Member
Regardless of how it does in Japan, major Japanese publishers will make games for the PS4, because of its astounding success in the West.

Plus there is no better home console to rally behind, one is dead and the other one did badly in the only market it can do well in.
 

Jamix012

Member
This has been argued to death but where exactly is the support going to go if not ps4? All the big guys that want to sell in the west have but one option.

iOS and Android for anything that isn't a big budget AAA+ game.

Regardless of how it does in Japan, major Japanese publishers will make games for the PS4, because of its astounding success in the West.

Plus there is no better home console to rally behind, one is dead and the other one did badly in the only market it can do well in.

They matter if they're bad, but yeah, they mean very little if they're good.
 
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thepotatoman

Unconfirmed Member
How fast third party support comes depends on how much the PS4 bombs. It's a neverending cycle.

Except that cycle can be easily broken with the PS4. Konami and Square Enix have to put games on PS4 if they want worldwide sales, and developers are going to need to go somewhere after the PS3 completely dies out. It just might not be right away.

It'd be nice if Sony did more to help out there though.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
We are heading for another very weak Golden Week this year. Mario Golf is supposed to be the 'big' game among all releases and systems? Give me a break.
 
I think the worst thing for the PS4 from Japanese developers will be if third party support doesn't go anywhere, but instead consolidates. Instead of six games a year, a publisher may focus on two or three real big ones and focus on making them events with higher returns. That can do some significant harm to consistent releases.
 

Jamix012

Member
Except that cycle can be easily broken with the PS4. Konami and Square Enix have to put games on PS4 if they want worldwide sales, and developers are going to need to go somewhere after the PS3 completely dies out. It just might not be right away.

It'd be nice if Sony did more to help out there though.

Big AAA games from 4/5 Japanese studios will not make the PS4 sell PS3 numbers (which i guess is sort of the bar for success I'm setting.) Middleware will likely sell better on Smartphones or Handhelds.
 

Sandfox

Member
Except that cycle can be easily broken with the PS4. Konami and Square Enix have to put games on PS4 if they want worldwide sales, and developers are going to need to go somewhere after the PS3 completely dies out. It just might not be right away.

It'd be nice if Sony did more to help out there though.

I'm curious to see how many put a larger focus on handheld/mobile going forward.

I think the worst thing for the PS4 from Japanese developers will be if third party support doesn't go anywhere, but instead consolidates. Instead of six games a year, a publisher may focus on two or three real big ones and focus on making them events with higher returns. That can do some significant harm to consistent releases.

I could see that happening ww tbqh.
 
I'm curious to see how many put a larger focus on handheld/mobile going forward.



I could see that happening ww tbqh.

I added the "from Japanese developers" part because I didn't want to stray too far from the Media Create thread subject, but yeah, it could pretty easily happen to a lot of publishers that aren't EA or Take-Two.
 

Ratrat

Member
It doesn't have to really go anywhere. It can change in subtle ways.

Take Deep Down, for instance. That is a game that is clearly taking cues from Dragon's Dogma, but definitely is not a new Dragon's Dogma. It is a F2P downloadable game. Capcom made a choice to make that game and not a Dragon's Dogma 2, or a Devil May Cry 5, or what have you, games that would get people pretty damn excited about a launch. They are banking on a new model to justify expense because the days of make-it-sell-it-move-on are over.

Capcom doesn't have to go anywhere for their output to no longer excite anyone or slow down in terms of the number of releases. They could be a one-off example or the start of a trend, who knows.

I for one dont care if its f2p if its a genuinely good game. It has plenty of potential for success, which might sell hardware. Capcom already made Dead Rising 3 so Im not worried about their other popular franchises getting sequels.

There aren't many big guys that still want to sell in the west though. I mean, you've got Square and Capcom. Sega with Atlus. From will do their thing. That's pretty much it.
Konami certainly do. Going sandbox and hollywood actors can mean little else.
 

Darius

Banned
It´s strange to blame 3rd parties looking at how they pretty much are the only ones that actually are releasing games for PS4 the Japanese market is really interested in and in fact are the ones who are dominating the PS4 preorder charts. Sony didn´t even bother to have a popular 1st party IP ready for launch and even past launch there hasn´t been anything shown yet, that actually could appeal to them. I don´t think a new Everybodies Golf would have been to hard to develop but even this IP isn´t anywhere to be seen yet.
 
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