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Microsoft Abandons 90-Day Target
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heavy liquid
Member
Jeez, they're not expecting for supply to meet demand until JUNE?
To further slow the progress down, I wonder how many units they've had to replace so far?
To further slow the progress down, I wonder how many units they've had to replace so far?
monkeymagic
Banned
I think most people expected this and confirms the worldwide launch was a very bad idea.
Peter Moore for yet another win.
Peter Moore for yet another win.
This should strike people as a rookie mistake, even though this isn't Redmond's first go-around. If they had to abandon their target before sixty days, then I'm left wondering how this is going to work out when I want an Xbox; is there going to be anything besides the odd Core shipment in March?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Why would they be disappointed?marc^o^ said:
X360s are now easy to find in Canada at least. Local Futureshop had them in stock two days ago, which was definitely not the case any time between the launch and the christmas holidays. So I guess shipments are coming regularily here.
open_mouth_
insert_foot_
Is the ~6 or so million lead for Xbox 360 over the PS3 in '06 going to be enough to keep up with Sony's monster for the first year or two? I'm not so sure....
monkeymagic
Banned
open_mouth_ said:
I doubt it will even reach 5M.
Even a Japanese PS3 launch will create enough media hype in NA and EU to make a lot of people wait a few months for it.
The only downside of these lower estimates is that it means Sony may delay PS3.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
I'm having a hard time envisioning them reaching their 4.5-5.5 million target by June. If the 1.3 million units sold through the end of the holiday season figure is correct they would need to sell an additional 3.2 million units over the next 6 months to meet the low end of their target. That's approximately 533,333 systems a month. Can they even produce that many yet? And if they can produce them... can they sell them? The system looks like its toast in Japan at the moment so it will be up to the US and European markets to carry the system in the short term.
Apr-Jun are typically slow months for HW sales. If they are going to make good on their targets they need to get rolling on production. This next quarter is crucial IMO. The longer it takes for them to fix the production lines the more it will hurt them. The PS3 gets closer and closer each day.
Then again if they mean 4.5 million units shipped to retailers... they will probably make that goal.
Apr-Jun are typically slow months for HW sales. If they are going to make good on their targets they need to get rolling on production. This next quarter is crucial IMO. The longer it takes for them to fix the production lines the more it will hurt them. The PS3 gets closer and closer each day.
Then again if they mean 4.5 million units shipped to retailers... they will probably make that goal.
jipe said:
Having trouble getting rid of them? They never even dropped the price to $99 and most of what is in stores is a $179 pack that includes Forza (which means for most consumers the system has dropped $20 since E3 2002).
And it isn't about people settling for Xbox instead. There's a lot of people who buy consoles later in the generation when the prices go down. The fact that the top selling game in November was an Xbox SKU is enough evidence that there was life left in the system before they became hellbent on pulling the plug a year early.
BudokaiMR2
Member
I really don't think there was any doubt they wouldn't make this deadline. It was a completely mucked up launch and they will pay for it later.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
It's a darn shame. I payed $600 on Ebay for it (including shipping), and I'm really glad I picked it up, since there's no chance it'll be back in the US Virgin Islands anytime soon. Still, Call of Duty is awesome, the marketplace is great, and I love downloading hi res trailers and demos of upcoming games. I understand, however, that nobody can or should have to pay that much for it, so MS really dropped the ball. I haven't had any problems finding oponents in COD, though, so I figure tons of people have been able to pick one up. It really is a nice console, so its a shame its not more widely available.
I'm thoroughly impressed playing everything in 1080i, and have I praised COD enough yet? Outstanding game.
I'm thoroughly impressed playing everything in 1080i, and have I praised COD enough yet? Outstanding game.
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JackFrost2012
Banned
okay, so M$ is going to make an Xbox 360 with HD-DVD built in, right
this will piss off the early adopters, of course
so they intentionally throttle the supply until March when HD-DVD launches (along with the new 360)
fewer pissed off customers, better for the platform in the long run
yeaaah I got it alll figured out
this will piss off the early adopters, of course
so they intentionally throttle the supply until March when HD-DVD launches (along with the new 360)
fewer pissed off customers, better for the platform in the long run
yeaaah I got it alll figured out
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
mj1108 said:
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I am calling it here also.. MS is screwing things up big time currently. HD-DVD (likely to be included later), horrible launch allocations and unavailability two months later. Now it is looking like they won't even have 5M units worldwide before sony launches (Which sony will eat up over 1/5th of that in the first week in japan)
if it's any consolation, they are becoming slightly easier to get now, but now I'm not sure if that's a good thing. Wal-Marts in my area are still only getting 3-4 in per shipment (premium) but now they are sitting on the shelves for over two days. And I would go so far as to say the core system is fairly readily available in many stores here. Is this a tinge of apathy I am sensing?
if it's any consolation, they are becoming slightly easier to get now, but now I'm not sure if that's a good thing. Wal-Marts in my area are still only getting 3-4 in per shipment (premium) but now they are sitting on the shelves for over two days. And I would go so far as to say the core system is fairly readily available in many stores here. Is this a tinge of apathy I am sensing?
JackFrost2012
Banned
it's a marathon, not a sprint
would you believe a winter triathalon
how about a cross-country bike tour
would you believe a winter triathalon
how about a cross-country bike tour
Outcast2004
Banned
Borys said:
QFT. I'm starting to get a bit pissed off. I have the money tospend, and yet MS can't get off their asses and at least TRY to meet demand.
Stores around me can't even fill the preorders that were ordered last year! FYE (freaking FYE) can't even fill their pre-orders because MS short-shanked them on supply.
Sam goody? Nope. they got 4 systems.. FOUR TOTAL. And never got any more, and no signs as to IF OR WHEN they'll get more.
Toys R Us. They have NO CLUE as to when MS will ship them more.
Best Buy.. when I asked the guy as to when they'd be expecting another shipment, he looked like he wanted to swallow the barrell end of a revolver.
MS has a major supply (or lack of supply) problem.
The secod biggest "free money" time is coming up in tax season, and if MS can't get systems in stores they're in serious trouble. There's a point where "hype" just turns into frustration and people will just wait until something else hits.
JackFrost2012
Banned
guys, making the 360 is hard
it has a lot of parts and stuff
try making one yourself before you're so quick to judge microsoft
microsoft is the thought leader, they said so themselves
so maybe you should try thinking the 360 is available, hmmm?
if you keep complaining they'll never ship any more
it has a lot of parts and stuff
try making one yourself before you're so quick to judge microsoft
microsoft is the thought leader, they said so themselves
so maybe you should try thinking the 360 is available, hmmm?
if you keep complaining they'll never ship any more
Outcast2004
Banned
JackFrost2012 said:
Perhaps they should have had MORE of a surplus before they decided to try a worldwide launch. Their biggest and most profitable makret , the US, GOT SCREWED BIG TIME.
Lack of preperation on their part if you ask me.
this is bullshit (the guy that is). Best Buys in my area HAVE been getting near-weekly shipments since after christmas. they are only like 3-4 premiums usually. the problem with best buy is that, in my area at least, they don't put the systems out, so it pretty much requires calling them every day. but unless you live in an area smaller than milwaukee, WI, your best buys should have already seen two shipments at least so far. and the most recent shipment saw core units available through the next evening.Outcast2004 said:
Outcast2004
Banned
Ulairi said:
...that whole lack of supply thing creeping up again.....
If the systems were there and replenishing at a quick pace, they'd be selling VERY quickly.
They'd ave ZERO problem meeting their goals.
borghe said:
The guy seemed pretty legit to me. He has said they have gotten a couple shipments, but when they come in, they don't know. It's completely random, no way to prepare or inform people.
MS doesn't send them notices, it just shows up on their stock reports. They could come with their shipment of new release DVDs or shimets of just random stock items. The random nature of the replenishment is making it hard to answer a customers questions.
This has been the case at the N. Canton and Akron (Cuyahoga Falls) Best Buy stores. Just no clue of what to expect.
The one that stood out to me is that the stre was expecting 60 systems for right before Xmas and evne put up a flyer stating as such... then they got 20.... mostly cores.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
So who still thinks that Xbox360 is a threat to PS3's dominance? :lol
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I dont think they could have beaten Sony, but they could have certainly taken a lot of their marektshare and be a very serious threat to their dominance. Xbox360 is a superb console. It has a nice shape, a flawless controller, an very decent library of games already and what looked like a bright future, but they have made so many many mistakes already and have handed Sony 1st place next gen. The only way I can see Xbox360 actually being a real threat to PS3 is if Sony make a big mistake and overprice PS3 too highly, but that is an unlikely scenario.borghe said:
x360 is capable, it's a good overall system and can still be seen as a good compromise. Remember we don't know the price of the PS3 yet. How much will Blue Ray weight in the bill?borghe said:
Microsoft is just spoiling their first mover advantage. It's still everyone's ball.