No, but it's a strange post as there is no evidence to suggest higher digital sales on PS4 than Xbox One. Many people say otherwise that Xbox One has a greater digital presence than PS4. EA for one has said EA Access has surpassed their internal expectations in sales, which offers discounts on digital goods. Games like FIFA, which EA online revenue increased year by year helped by Ultimate Team is more popular on Xbox One for example. PS4 has more games than Xbox One and a greater install base yet the latter sells more retail units; your thinking is nowhere a correlation let alone an assumption.
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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]
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No, but it's a strange post as there is no evidence to suggest higher digital sales on PS4 than Xbox One. Many people say otherwise that Xbox One has a greater digital presence than PS4. EA for one has said EA Access has surpassed their internal expectations in sales, which offers discounts on digital goods. Games like FIFA, which EA online revenue increased year by year helped by Ultimate Team is more popular on Xbox One for example. PS4 has more games than Xbox One and a greater install base yet the latter sells more retail units; your thinking is nowhere a correlation let alone an assumption.
2016's possible.
The third or fourth year of a gen is the time in which most core gamers own at least one of the current gen consoles; Hence why companies go after the more casual/mainstream audience late in a gen (cheaper system redesigns with cut features, "casual/kiddie" games and/or accessories, etc.).
Superman00
Liverpool01
From August-December, PS4 moved 50M+ piece of software. XBOX1 moved more consoles during Nov and Dec, and there were a bunch of games on sale from both MS and retails. Of course they are gonna move more software. People that bought the games for the PS4 pretty much already did. So if you look at 3rd party games besides CODs, PS4 had the higher LTD.
Duxxy3
Member
Gears of War and Gran Turismo will both likely be fall 2016 titles. We all those games REALLY move systems. Combine that with slim models and a $250 price tag and that could be the largest fall in history.
That is more logical to me than PS4's digital presence lol. It'll be curious to see what the game sales are ahead.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
So did the PS4 get its ass kicked in Dec?
It seems like XONE dominated software on titles that I assumed would sell better on PS4 (GTAV)
It seems like XONE dominated software on titles that I assumed would sell better on PS4 (GTAV)
by 200k or so
hodayathink
Member
Software numbers don't include bundles.
El-Pistolero
Member
It is not like one sale in either November or December equates to two normal sales. I fail to see how the end of the year is similar top the Superbowl, really. Unless you are 2013-2014 Microsoft, a company that had to double down on these two months to recover...
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Sony is screwed.
metalslimer
Member
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
No way Sony can recover from that beatdown. MS is now going to moneyhat 3rd party exclusives and force parity or worse make the PS4 versions look worse. I should sell my PS4 now.
sarcasm. I hope.
Aquamarine
Member
nah. both the xbox one and the ps4 have very healthy software ecosystems. all three systems experienced healthy hardware and software yoy gains.
overall, xbox one was stronger than the ps4 in software sales this month. it wasn't by an extraordinary amount...but xbo's win was still enough to note a difference between the two.
it's impressive considering the 0.5 million ps4 + xbo installbase discrepancy.
and, of course, both ps4 and xbo sold significantly more software than the wii u this december. that's not from first-party weakness, but rather, from a lack of a real third-party ecosystem on the wii u.
as a caveat, in terms of relative % software change, ps4 yoy software had a significantly greater relative % increase than xbo yoy software.
Dragonseeker
Neo Member
Do you guys think Wii U is over or under 9 million worldwide?
I think around 9.5 million.
I think around 9.5 million.
Welfare
Member
No way at 9.5 million, 9 million is the likely figure. Shipped though is probably around 9.3 million.
This gens winners have been decided. PS4>Xbox one>Wii U
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Couldn't care less.....ugh.
I want the PS4 to win because it is the more powerful system.
I want the Xbox One to win because MS is the more powerful company.
Compared to Sony? Off course!
The real question is...How much less could you care?
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
War never changes.
Last-gen peaked when Wii peaked, which was 2008. Since Wii U is out of the picture, looking at just PS360, they peaked much later (2011 for 360 and PS3). In my opinion, that was at least partially due to Wii overshadowing early gen, though, so with that out of the way, they should peak earlier this gen (and make this gen more "normal" as far as peaking/length). From that perspective, this year seems like a year for growth, for sure, and maybe 2016, too. We'll see. Price dropping is always helpful there.
Last shipment numbers we got was in dec and that was 10 million
El-Pistolero
Member
Must be 10-11 millions by now...
biglittleps
Member
I think it'll be between 10-11m.
Welfare
Member
Somewhere between 10 million and 11 million.
Shipments should be closer to 11 million. I still think the sold through numbers have not passed 10 million, maybe >9.5 million
Thanks guys, so it's 18.5mil vs 11mil...
Wow.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I think a lot of this hinges on how well it reviews and is perceived. Unfortunately I think it's going to get docked for being too familiar, despite being really good at being familiar.
New IPs are difficult. InFamous and Killzone had the benefit of being established franchises.
theprodigy
Member
Actual sell through is probably like 18.5 million vs 10-10.5 million vs ...9-9.25 million?
I'm really expecting MS to announce a new, cheaper model for the Xbox One come E3 to compete with an oncoming PS4 price cut. When it's 18.5 mil sold vs 10 -- MS really needs to play that price advantage.
Also why is Xbox software still outperforming PS4 software despite the gap?
I will be surprised if The Order isn't a flop tbh.
Also why is Xbox software still outperforming PS4 software despite the gap?
I will be surprised if The Order isn't a flop tbh.
If the X1 is really at 10 million now, I'd expect the PS4 to be really close to 20 million
small44
Member
I'm happy that both are doing well but i want ps4 to win
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
That's comparing shipped to sold to consumers, not an apples to apples comparison. Wait for the fiscal reports.
theprodigy
Member
No, I'm using the same cutoff for all 3 consoles lol
Sony or Nintendo being the market leader is really the best case scenario (not that I think the WiiU will even get 2nd place this gen) for the video game industry
small44
Member
I don't people care a lot about reviews
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I think for the type of game it is....new IP focusing on single player and story, it matters a LOT more than an established franchise or multiplayer shooter, unfortunately.
Care to explain?
CadetMahoney
Member
And just when I thought this gen was as predictable as a delayed flight with United things start going the other way. Wonder what will happen if bone wins Jan. . .
Seeing that the Wii was in first place last gen and we got the WiiU because of that, I don't see how Nintendo being first is good for the market industry. o:
Have you forgotten all the DRM shit Microsoft tried to pull on gamers? Had the X1 sales exceeded the PS4's sales, there was no way in Hell Microsoft would have done a 180 on all their policies
At least Nintendo didn't pull any crazy DRM shit
Welfare
Member
I'd say 18.5m vs 10.3m vs 9m, but that's just my opinion.
If the Xbox One had actually exceeded the PS4 in sales numbers with the original plans, then that's where the gaming industry would've gone because that's what gamers would've wanted.
It won't receive positive reviews imo (70 Metacritic seems a fair expectation considering how most of the press has already openly decided against it before its release when it became apperent that the game is not Gears of War but a very cinematic and story driven third person shooter), but that has nothing to do with sales these days, it's not like bad reviews stopped Destiny or Watch Dogs from selling million units, nor positive reviews made Bayonetta or other niche games commercial successes.
I see The Order doing well for a few reasons, it's being marketed as (and at its core is) a third person shooter which is a genre with a huge group of fans, the game also features many fancy and cool weapons which is an other attractive point, it has a very interesting setting/story with amazing graphics and that alone will help a lot in making people wanting to play it to know what it's all about, on top of that the release window is really good and gives the game a nice spotlight in February.
I would be really surprised if the game struggles to sell at least 1m units in US+Europe during its launch period also considering the PS4 installed base.
Steverulez
Member
I think The Order will sell alright, it won't shatter any records and I have no idea how reviews will go (probably quite split like some other games this gen) but they have picked a good time for it to release imo and Bloodborne's small delay will give it a little bit of breathing space, not a whole lot else releasing around it.
Looks fun, i'll get it when I get a PS4.
Looks fun, i'll get it when I get a PS4.
Well considering the 180 was done months prior to release, this can't be stated.