Including bundle:
Halo 5 - 935,000 (1 week)
Uncharted 4 - 879,000 (3 weeks)
Numbers from NPD George and Aquamarine.
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NPD Sales Results for May 2016
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Including bundle:
Halo 5 - 935,000 (1 week)
Uncharted 4 - 879,000 (3 weeks)
Numbers from NPD George and Aquamarine.
MrPink93485
Member
Thanks.
Primethius
Banned
I had started to suspect that UC4 wasn't as popular in the U.S relative to the rest of the world and that's what I based my prediction on.
Too bad I had made a bet with a friend that UC4 > Halo 5 back when it had the March release date and forgot to change it.
I loose.
Too bad I had made a bet with a friend that UC4 > Halo 5 back when it had the March release date and forgot to change it.
I loose.
Primethius
Banned
So Uncharted did better than Halo in NA?
Btw, loving the salt.
No, Halo 5 did better by a bit. UC4 is 879k with bundles.
These numbers show that UC4 leans a bit more towards the ROTW then you would think.
An amazing number for a May game.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I think Sony will gloat at E3. The no comment seems fitting now
Ahh, still... No one would've predicted they'd be so close in NA.
That's really close but it's 1 week compared to 3 weeks still it's safe to say Uncharted will outsell Halo 5 WW.
I had started to suspect that UC4 wasn't as popular in the U.S relative to the rest of the world and that's what I based my prediction on.
Too bad I had made a bet with a friend that UC4 > Halo 5 back when it had the March release date and forgot to change it.
I loose.
I'm tempted to go back and quote all the posts informing me that UC4 would sell more than 1 million copies after I made my original post questioning that following the 2.7 million announcement and then again after my bold predictions. I stand by what I said : with 2.7 million being digital and retail along with the high ROTW split for the IP and the slow sales month 1 million in NPD just didn't seem likely.
There's a lot more context to consider with these numbers than just the number of weeks. Please see my post above summarizing all the relevant info.
Giant Panda
Member
Aquamarine is still leaking NPD numbers? I thought she left GAF bc she was caught...
Primethius
Banned
That's why I predicted 850k. Along with tidbits in the PR that also pointed towards that.
Still a pretty good number (especially with digital) but it just ain't no GOW stateside.
They didn't. UC3 numbers were shipped and we only got sold through figures for U4. We don't know U4 shipped numbers.
Primethius
Banned
They never announced they shipped less. They announced a sell-through number (plus digital) for UC4 and a shipped number for UC3.
UC3 was also holidays, which explains the large shipped number.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
LOL at people predicting >1.5M for U4.. You just can not sell that much anymore unless u are called GTA or something
maquiladora
Member
#GamingHours
Still the best debut for the IP in US. So yea it's a good figure but I'm not sold like so many others on the idea that UC4 will have good legs. Not sure it will end up being the highest selling entry when all is said and done.
Primethius
Banned
It's hard to say. It's following pretty typical, decent drops in the UK. I suppose it'll really come down to how it performs in the ROTW and how much boost the DLC gives, if any.
I suppose a benefit of the game being not as US centric is that it's likely to face less competition in the smaller markets, but thats me largely speculating.
Side note: Originally I thought UC4 would do about a million given the increases of past UC games. With digital, I'm glad I wasn't too far off.
crab rangoon
Banned
Sure, lemme try it this way...if we want to evaluate how big of a boost a platform enjoyed from a set of circumstances behind it, the question to be addressed is the following:
'How many new users bought a PS4 beyond the norm due to conditions XYZ being present?'
To address this question you'd need to have a baseline estimate for comparison, which we do (May 2015). Not all data nor all manipulations of data are relevant for addressing the posed question. I'd imagine everyone agrees with me up to this point and assume we are on the same page.
An estimate of how many new users bought PS4 specifically due to those conditions XYZ should focus on the difference between the control (May 2015) and the experimental (May 2016) data.
Example:
If console A sold 1.00k in one May 2015 and then 1.38k in May 2016, the boost would be 0.38k, (which represents a 38% increase compared to the baseline). Is that a massive, particularly significant boost? I'd contend no, it isn't. Well beyond the margin of error for sure, so I'd agree there is clearly a boost in this example, but simply have *some* boost doesn't automatically make said boost impressive.
Conclusion: Percentages aren't the best measures of how significant a boost in hardware sales is. They obscure the much more relevant data point (difference between result and baseline).
Opinions can vary on what constitutes a 'big/medium/small' boost. My opinion is that I would have expected a much larger difference than just 50k given the 3 or 4 very major conditions promoting PS4 sales in May.
If someone wants to argue that the relevant metric for quantifying a boost is not difference in sales compared to baseline but instead is an entirely multiplicative factor, that's fine and would make the pure % difference meaningful if compelling, but I have yet to see any such argument.
64bitbros
Member
Why is Aquamarine on that forum and not Neogaf? Didn't she have to give up Neogaf because of work? Then why sales data on a different site? Did i miss anything?
I was expecting UC4 could sell more in the US but this post really gives a great perspective.
Primethius
Banned
I think the Doom number is pretty great. Probably a result of good legs.
As for the Overwatch number, I'm not surprised. The vast amount of betas were on PC. The game is balanced around PC. All the hype seemed to be around the PC version.
Still decent numbers but the title isn't remotely a big factor on consoles. That's actually one of the reasons I predicted Doom > OW this month. I didnt think OW was big enough to cut into Doom legs.
As for the Overwatch number, I'm not surprised. The vast amount of betas were on PC. The game is balanced around PC. All the hype seemed to be around the PC version.
Still decent numbers but the title isn't remotely a big factor on consoles. That's actually one of the reasons I predicted Doom > OW this month. I didnt think OW was big enough to cut into Doom legs.
She asked to get permabanned, but then asked for get unbanned. Apparentely mods just ignored she...
The issue is you are completely ignoring the context of the month in which these sales occured. It is literally the slowest month of the year. So yes 50k units a very significant margin during a month where very few consoles are able to break 200k units sold. I'll repeat again this May makes the first time a console has sold over 200k units in May since the 360 in 2011 following the release of the Kinect which resulted in a very noticeable sales boost.
So yes percentages give a much more accurate depiction of scale in sales differentials than units because percentage differences account for the context of historical performance of said month YoY and MoM whereas units do not.
You are just ignoring every other factor in your comparison, fixating on a single isolated value and assigning meaning to it that it doesn't actually have as has been explained to you multiple times at this point.
down 2 orth
Member
Unless Overwatch has some long sexy legs, I can't imagine Blizzard/Activision execs being too pleased with that. Seven million players sounds great and all, but then you have to take into account rentals, multiple accounts on a system, and reselling. Not sure if that will be enough to overcome Titan's development budget + marketing, but who knows.
Not only that, but they banned NDP Mulcair who was using Aqua's computer to surf NeoGAF. So, in spite, Aqua is now posting the numbers on Chartzz.
I should clarify that this is what Aqua said in the forums.
The vast number of sales will be digital on the PC for OW. The NPD numbers come nowhere close to painting the whole picture with this particular game. Current estimates have it selling somewhere around 3 million copies on PC alone in a bit over a week when factoring in digital.
You've completely forgotten Overwatch's primary audience: PC players who bought and play the game via Battle.Net.
The retail console sales are just icing on the cake.
gundamkyoukai
Member
UC 4 number is rather good truth is i thought it would do over million with bundles .
But had a feeling it would not when i saw this month PSN top sellers .
But had a feeling it would not when i saw this month PSN top sellers .
LordRaptor
Member
I honestly don't think "platform defining" titles (your Halos, your Uncharteds, your Forzas, your Marios, your Zeldas and your Gran Turismos) particularly matter what month they are released in because a sizable portion of your platform userbase will buy blind day one regardless of any other factor.
I mean, I guess you wouldn't want to schedule directly against a GTA, but I don't think the sales differential is going to be that big.
So, would you say that ROTTR would've sold close to what it did if it had released in May?
I'm sure it's close to a million with digital.
Did it not sell over 1 million copies in China alone? I think it did just fine. PC is undoubtedly king for this game.
Sure you could make that arguement and I could certainly see that to some degree but when we are talking about an extreme like the slowest sales month of the year it's difficult to dismiss that as a non contributing factor. To be clear in not claiming UC4 would've broken 1 million in November or anything but I do think it's reasonable to assume it would have sold additional units in a holiday month as opposed to the single slowest sales month of the year.
LordRaptor
Member
I don't consider ROTTR a 'platform defining title' tbh.
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I believe that sort of differential is via bundling and increased hardware sales rather than individual sales
Good point.
{insert code here}
Member
PlayStation domination. 9/10 top sellers for one month is pretty fucking crazy for NPD.I Don't recall seeing that too often.
Lol at MS PR. They sure did drop those MAU's quickly like many said they would. XBL hours will probably be the new stat.
Nintendo.
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Lol at MS PR. They sure did drop those MAU's quickly like many said they would. XBL hours will probably be the new stat.
Nintendo.
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Primethius
Banned
Personally, I think UC4 would've done more in a month like February and March but not by much. Maybe about a 100k.
Agreed. Ultimately, there is a cap on how much any one of these games can sell in a month. The UC4 attach rate is pretty solid and the best of any game in the franchise.
Halo 5 sold more in 1 week than Uncharted did in 3 weeks?!
Holy crap, I'd never imagine that. UC4 will have longer legs, but that blows my mind with the install base.
Unless I'm missing something.
Anyway, would we call the Overwatch numbers good? That doesn't seem like a lot...I've not really paid it much attention though, as I don't have any interest in the game.
Issue I think is it was marketed and sold as part of the series lore and a conclusion. Was marketed primarily at the series fans - so likely didn't grab those who haven't played the rest of the series. Halo went the same way (whilst interestingly deciding to alienate its core audience at the same time) so likely a good time to bring the franchise to a close.
Likely we'll see more Last of Us then mid franchise launch a new IP; if its successful close Last of Us and rinse/repeat.
Primethius
Banned
You're not missing anything with regards to the US market. Halo is a more US centric IP where as UC is more WW.
