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Phillip W. Spencer III"We have thirteen $1B+ franchises in our portfolio and we just set new records for engagement in Game Pass."
SEGAvangelist
Member
No. Zenimax was a private company. I was comparing ABK to the Zenimax acquisition where they did that Bethesda game drop immediately after the close of the sale. Sorry for the confusion.
LordBlodgett
Member
Even Phil's internal memos to employees got you super
Killjoy-NL
Gold Member
I'd like to see him take all those franchises away from Playstation and Nintendo and see how much of hit they take in revenue for each IP.
X-Wing
Member
Xbox the eternal victim
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Eh, I think they're good at what they do, but they're not quite up there with the best at Sony. Guerilla, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica are in classes by themselves. They make literal industry movers.
That said, The Coalition is techy enough to bring enough competition to stand out. I'd just like to see them do something other than Gears of War.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
SEGAvangelist
Member
My point is that Zenimax could do the Game Pass onloading behind the scenes before close of the sale since it was a private company and easier to hide that stuff. If that's not the case, I'm not sure what else could be the hold up. ABK holding back every game doesn't make much sense if they are worried about profits.
Ok but you're confusing me even more.
What stuff exactly? You still haven't explained.
With whatever they were hiding how is MS hiding it now being a publicly traded company? What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.
X-Wing
Member
Whining
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Question: When was the last time Xbox Game Studios made a game that hit $1 billion in revenue?
Was it even under Phil Spencer's leadership?
I'm starting to get sick and tired of MS never ever releasing game sales. Even internally they don't seem to want to release real numbers.
SEGAvangelist
Member
So why do you think they aren't adding the ABK games to Game Pass right away if it isn't because of hurting sales?
I find it amusing that this actually upsets people.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
I don't even know what's going on anymore. I'm the one saying they're not doing it because they want to make more money from it by selling the ABK games for longer and only using it to boost subs when they don't have other big XGS game releases in the quarter.
You're the one saying they can't do it because ABK is a publicly traded company so it was difficult to hide something. What exactly you still haven't explained.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Your speculation is just as unsupported as mine. I was just saying something I heard that made sense to me. I never quoted anyone, or claimed anything as fact. Relax.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Upsets? No. I'm not losing sleep over it. It's just stupid and annoying. You too should expect better from Xbox's leadership.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Maybe try lowering your expectations (or just not having any at all) of Xbox's leadership.
I mean sure but you're doing a lousy job of even explaining what your speculation is when I'm asking for you to elaborate.
You think it's because ABK is publicly traded so they're trying to hide something? Hide what? that it will hurt sales?
MS/ABK has closed and MS is still publicly traded. What would be possible to hide or not hide now? What would make it possible to hide later? I'm trying to figure out where you're coming from and I'm completely relaxed.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
I won't have more fun with a game if I know it sold 1 million copies vs if it had sold 5 million. Unless you have a large number of stock shares, knowing how many units a game sells does nothing for our pocketbooks other than giving ammunition and bragging rights on forums such as these.
Also, Microsoft seems to be doing just fine running Xbox as it is currently doing, so even people who do own significant stock shouldn't be worried...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...as-ai-again-drives-record-revenue/ar-AA1iMJ91
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Eh, absolutely nothing wrong with being curious about real sales numbers and you only aren't getting them from Microsoft because of how it would look next to PlayStation. They would proudly boast otherwise.
You do know that "soar" went back down right?
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Yeah, that's how the stock market works. Yet a simple search shows that in the past 5 years, MS stock is up by 213% (~43% per year).
Yeah, just strange to be posting news about a 2 day old blip that was wiped out since then today.
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Pelta88
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The first signal that shit is going down hill will be the removal of depictions of smoking from COD. I'm not sure how many will get that reference but it's out there.
Also, this reads like someone who has suffered defeat after defeat since 2013.
Also, this reads like someone who has suffered defeat after defeat since 2013.
You could pretty much say that about anything purchased.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Bla bla bla, I have the bigger one, bla bla bla, I just found a statistic nobody cares where we are ahead and it means nothing bla bla bla we have so many franchises but we don't know anymore how to make games bla bla bla I still experiment everyday bla bla bla I talk for nothing as usual and the next year will be the Xbox year*
*Next year is proudly our year since 2014
I'm truely sick of this guy full of shit and lies.
*Next year is proudly our year since 2014
I'm truely sick of this guy full of shit and lies.
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kiphalfton
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When all you can brag about are the number of studios you acquired, because you haven't released any games.
Saber
Member
Depends.
If they bough something and then started a new project for them and announce that project, then I totally agree with you.
But in this case all projects where already in process(heck, most of them at middle or above in terms of development) and then purchased. Redfall, Elder Scrolls and Starfield were already in development process.
Saber
Member
I don't think so, its just pretty stupid. Like you being proud of a new product a bakery launched that you just bought a few months ago. You didn't involve yourself in the project, you have no connection, you just purchase the entire bakery and the product came with it. Whats to be proud of?
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
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X-Wing
Member
What is he even talking about when he mentions Gaf?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Just don't make it with crossplay.
Rocco Schiavone
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MDSLKTR
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X-Wing
Member
"Do you have a patreon?"
Is he a morron? Is he really willing to give money to someone who is already being paid / was paid by the world third richest company?
nial
Member
Jesus... What the fuck is going on with this guy? That is one fucked up account.
3liteDragon
Member
Trillion dollar company couldn't find help anywhere lmao
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why? They are a trillion-dollar company that said they want to disrupt the current way of things in the video game space. I'm only going to raise my expectations.
But if it only sales 1 million units, you may not get another game in the series. Versus if it sold 5 million units.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
the worst 16th century Xbox king, a sure downgrade from Peterious G. Moore XVIIICompletely noble.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
That would be likely true under the traditional sales model. GamePass throws that out the window.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Unless there is good engagement.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So do you think there is a Redfall 2 coming?
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Under a GamePass model, engagement would be the leading factor indicating a sequel or not. RedFall failed in the engagement metric, so no.So do you think there is a Redfall 2 coming?
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