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[Reuters] Exclusive-Sony in talks to buy media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring', sources say

GHG

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Sony isn’t going to dictate what they do. They are successful and thriving. And cheap to operate being in Japan.

All Sony is going to do is give them more resources and technical help for their projects and expand their IP across media even further

There’s no reason for him to leave if he retains full studio autonomy, just more support.

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DenchDeckard

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Kadokawa: your mom and pop’s company.

Yes, lol. I don't think i explained too well. I mean when large companies change hands. New expectations etc.

Myizaki is not someone who would struggle to find talent on their own and some times they move on when these kinds of things happen.
 

leo-j

Member
I say this as a PlayStation fan. If you think I'm an Xbox or PC fan worrying about sudden Fromsoft exclusivity, I am not, and no one else should be. Sony have already displayed rank stupidity in buying Bungie at all, and then allowing them to continue supporting at least 2 competing platforms. They're not going to make the next Soulslop game exclusive.

My fear is that I don't want Hermen Hulst or Totoki or Sony top brass in general getting any big ideas about being a multimedia conglomerate where the gaming piece is just a cog in that machine. We see what that kind of position has led to with the Xbox brand.
Hmm well Sony has one of the biggest film/series video game adaptions ever with the last of us, and they own crunchy roll, it would make sense to push souls into the anime world, as it would expand the different souls worlds to those that don’t really game. Also bungee may have been a so far meh purchase, but insomniac, naught dog, and others are examples of what Sony purchased studios can do with big funding. (Not saying from needs it at all, but Sony has had a good track record with the studios they acquire.)
 

Radical_3d

Member
Yes, lol. I don't think i explained too well. I mean when large companies change hands. New expectations etc.

Myizaki is not someone who would struggle to find talent on their own and some times they move on when these kinds of things happen.
I stand corrected since you’ve catch a couple of fish with that bait finally. But let’s remember this is mostly a Sony reinforcing Crunchyroll movement. I don’t think From is part of the equation here.
 

Astray

Member
Banjo64 Banjo64 The main reason Sony HQ is in California is because the talent making topselling Sony IPs is from there, Adding From Software to Asobi Games would probably give Japanese talent a greater weight in decision-making imo.

One company can lost a lot though and I’m talking about Namco Bandai. Elden Ring 2 is probably secured (though Sony could break the deal, but I don’t think they would - it’s too comfortable for them regarding the multiplatform release) but after that?
From already bought back the Elden Ring publishing rights, almost as if in preparation for this.
 

Banjo64

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I bet Kadokawa will still act pretty much as an independent entity inside the Sony Group. Just like PlayStation, Sony Music, Sony Electronics and Columbia.
Sounds like a guess.

To me it would make sense that From would report directly to Sony’s gaming division.

Just like Bungie do and all of their other studios regardless of location.

Which would be an absolute disaster.

Kadokawa/From are one of the best companies on the planet. If you don’t want them to be left well alone you’d have to be up Sony’s bum.
 
Sounds like a guess.

To me it would make sense that From would report directly to Sony’s gaming division.

Just like Bungie do and all of their other studios regardless of location.

Which would be an absolute disaster.

Kadokawa/From are one of the best companies on the planet. If you don’t want them to be left well alone you’d have to be up Sony’s bum.

Your cum
 

ShaiKhulud1989

Gold Member
Sounds like a guess.

To me it would make sense that From would report directly to Sony’s gaming division.

Just like Bungie do and all of their other studios regardless of location.

Which would be an absolute disaster.

Kadokawa/From are one of the best companies on the planet. If you don’t want them to be left well alone you’d have to be up Sony’s bum.
Sounds like an informed opinion.

Bungie deal was helmed by PlayStation, not Sony Group.
 
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Banjo64

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Banjo64 Banjo64 The main reason Sony HQ is in California is because the talent making topselling Sony IPs is from there, Adding From Software to Asobi Games would probably give Japanese talent a greater weight in decision-making imo.

A terrible decision. America is currently in a cultural/creative decline that’s mirrored in all media. (Not just gaming, Hollywood, TV, comic books etc).

Japan is currently in a golden age.

All that’s happened since they’ve moved to California is that every ounce of creativity has left them and they circle around the things that made TLoU successful in 2013.
 

jm89

Member
Yeah, as far as I know that company doesn’t have its gaming HQ in California.

Sony are a very bad example, please don’t say they don’t try to influence their studios.

You think are all of their studios are working on the same style of games organically?

Creatives absolutely do not want commie ideology or as @James Sawyer Ford puts it ‘technical help’ - as if they need it.
Asobi and polyphony are examples of california influence not really being wide reaching, I'd think from would operate the same way. Heck sometimes it feels like polyphony operate by themselves outside of ps studios.
 

Radical_3d

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A terrible decision. America is currently in a cultural/creative decline that’s mirrored in all media. (Not just gaming, Hollywood, TV, comic books etc).

Japan is currently in a golden age.

All that’s happened since they’ve moved to California is that every ounce of creativity has left them and they circle around the things that made TLoU successful in 2013.
You don’t make clever decisions regarding bets but this is a good take.
 

Klayzer

Member
The purples are crying about a monopoly, despite having spent their whole existence making sure the website is favourable towards the most monopolistic company in modern history.

You couldn't write this.
Entirely predictable.
 

leo-j

Member
Sounds like a guess.

To me it would make sense that From would report directly to Sony’s gaming division.

Just like Bungie do and all of their other studios regardless of location.

Which would be an absolute disaster.

Kadokawa/From are one of the best companies on the planet. If you don’t want them to be left well alone you’d have to be up Sony’s bum.
Bloodborne and demons souls turned out so bad when they went through Sony as a publisher.
 

ProtoByte

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Alright. You got me.

In my defense, I'm not insane enough to write that, and I think the results of that acquisition fanboys caped for speak for themselves.


Hmm well Sony has one of the biggest film/series video game adaptions ever with the last of us, and they own crunchy roll, it would make sense to push souls into the anime world, as it would expand the different souls worlds to those that don’t really game.
I don't care about TV shows and movie adaptations. Last of Us mostly worked (for now, and the 2014 remaster blows the hBO show out of the water), Gran Turismo really didn't. Multimedia has done nothing for the 10s of millions who played the games in the first place, and I dare say hasn't attracted this phantom untapped audience everyone thinks exists.

Meanwhile, Horizon and God of War adaptations are in dev hell, and will be shit if they ever see the light of day. Give me Horizon 3, and move on.

Also bungee may have been a so far meh purchase, but insomniac, naught dog, and others are examples of what Sony purchased studios can do with big funding. (Not saying from needs it at all, but Sony has had a good track record with the studios they acquire.)
Cmon dude. Sony purchased ND and others most of or more than 20 years ago. The Insomniac purchase was made under a very different PlayStation, and even they've had problems under this current regime.

Bungie hasn't been a "meh" acquisition, it's been a disaster alongside their live service initiative.

Sony is very lean now , they need to eat more IP.

Microsoft is obese
More animu IP? No thanks.
Microsoft was anorexic with IP, and bought indiscriminately to the point where their ship is too big, and their quality control is at an all time low. Sony shouldn't make the same mistake.
 

Varteras

Member
I figured this would eventually happen, or at least be in the works. Sony has probably been kicking themselves for years when they didn't buy Fromsoft back in the day. There's also a clear angle for manga and anime as well. I'm not sure how much of this would be Totoki's doing, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a driving force behind it. Microsoft recently said they're still looking into acquisitions, which is something Sony was certainly aware of before it was publicly stated.

Totoki made a declaration to push single player games out yearly and has mentioned a shift in the company. The kinds of games Kadokawa puts out are different than Sony's typical offerings these days and they release at a very good pace. Likely also for much less cost than companies like Insomniac or Santa Monica. Studios like Fromsoft and Acquire would actually fulfill a desire many seem to have for Sony to get closer to its roots.

paying someone to make something for you or deliver a service is completely different to being their boss and being able to dictate what they do. Hope you enjoy DEI Souls. The next step in the formula.

 

leo-j

Member
paying someone to make something for you or deliver a service is completely different to being their boss and being able to dictate what they do. Hope you enjoy DEI Souls. The next step in the formula.
Right because blue point who remade demons souls and is owned by Sony and answers to Sony, totally added lgbtq+ content for the sake of inclusivity.
 

Varteras

Member
Right because blue point who remade demons souls and is owned by Sony and answers to Sony, totally added lgbtq+ content for the sake of inclusivity.

To be fair, Bluepoint hasn't released a game, remake or otherwise, since being owned by Sony. So what he said isn't countered by that studio as an example.
 

Banjo64

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Right because blue point who remade demons souls and is owned by Sony and answers to Sony, totally added lgbtq+ content for the sake of inclusivity.
Nice try buttercup but Sony acquired Bluepoint in 2021.

Bluepoint released DeS Remastered (which looked great but tone-ally they messed things up a bit) in 2020.
 

leo-j

Member
Alright. You got me.

In my defense, I'm not insane enough to write that, and I think the results of that acquisition fanboys caped for speak for themselves.



I don't care about TV shows and movie adaptations. Last of Us mostly worked (for now, and the 2014 remaster blows the hBO show out of the water), Gran Turismo really didn't. Multimedia has done nothing for the 10s of millions who played the games in the first place, and I dare say hasn't attracted this phantom untapped audience everyone thinks exists.

Meanwhile, Horizon and God of War adaptations are in dev hell, and will be shit if they ever see the light of day. Give me Horizon 3, and move on.


Cmon dude. Sony purchased ND and others most of or more than 20 years ago. The Insomniac purchase was made under a very different PlayStation, and even they've had problems under this current regime.

Bungie hasn't been a "meh" acquisition, it's been a disaster alongside their live service initiative.


More animu IP? No thanks.
Microsoft was anorexic with IP, and bought indiscriminately to the point where their ship is too big, and their quality control is at an all time low. Sony shouldn't make the same mistake.
Insomniac went from a 2-3 million ip studio selling developer to selling 20+ million games 3 times in a row. Ratchet and clank also received a major upgrade as an IP relative to its quality and technical upgrades. You can still argue ratchet is a top looking game this gen. They have had no problems, other than “anti woke” randos on forums attacking their 20-30 million selling ip, because they can’t stand gay representation in a video game. Anyhow.

Naughty dog went from crash bandicoot to Uncharted 1-4, and the last of us which all of these games reached heights similar to or bigger than some HALO launches at its peak both in sales and revenue. Post acquisition.

Bungie would have been in trouble without Sony buying them, see the source posted earlier, they were in the red well before Sony took them in.
 
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Varteras

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