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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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RTTP: Deadly Premonition - The Best "Bad" Game Ever.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
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adamsapple
making quality threads.
I still have both DP games on the backlog, but your thread might make me play them sooner.
adamsapple
making quality threads.I still have both DP games on the backlog, but your thread might make me play them sooner.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
P.S, if anyone has some time to spare, here's a 2 hour interview with Jeff Kramer, the voice of Francis York Morgan.
Been a while since I saw this but IIRC he mentions a lot of development stuff in the game, like how all of his voice work was completed in 5 days (which is fucking impressive considering the sheer amount of voice work the game has).
And that he was called a year or so after finishing his initial work to re-record all the lines where the character's name is spoken, cause they changed the character's name and some other things which led the publishers of the game to be called by the Twin Peaks license holders for being way too similar.
Fascinating stuff for fans, really.
My advise is to play DP1 and forget that DP2 ever existed.
Been a while since I saw this but IIRC he mentions a lot of development stuff in the game, like how all of his voice work was completed in 5 days (which is fucking impressive considering the sheer amount of voice work the game has).
And that he was called a year or so after finishing his initial work to re-record all the lines where the character's name is spoken, cause they changed the character's name and some other things which led the publishers of the game to be called by the Twin Peaks license holders for being way too similar.
Fascinating stuff for fans, really.
Based
I still have both DP games on the backlog, but your thread might make me play them sooner.
My advise is to play DP1 and forget that DP2 ever existed.
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RedC
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If you're a fan of Swery's storytelling and characters, D4 was on its way to being as good, or dare I say, even better than Deadly Premonition.
PLAY IT NOW!!!
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PanzerCute
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I will never, never, never forget this game and how it made me feel.
Batshit insane indeed, janky as hell in every gameplay aspects, but it oozes with heart, passion and talent (and lack of budget also) and has genius ideas.
Thanks for reminding me I need to play it again someday.
Batshit insane indeed, janky as hell in every gameplay aspects, but it oozes with heart, passion and talent (and lack of budget also) and has genius ideas.
Thanks for reminding me I need to play it again someday.
InterMusketeer
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I'm also a fan. I played it on PS3 and don't remember performance being that terrible. The game is kinda jank anyway, so I don't think the shoddy ports should stop anyone from trying.
Too bad the sequel was trash.
Too bad the sequel was trash.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's an incredibly apt way of putting it. There are a million 'better' games I've played but this is one of those memorable ones that always remains in your mind.
Kinda like Final Fantasy VII, or Resident Evil 4 for me.
Giallo Corsa
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RedC
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kiphalfton
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I love Twin Peaks, but the game is so crap on a technical level nothing can save it.
One of the few games that actually needs to be remade, by a competent dev.
One of the few games that actually needs to be remade, by a competent dev.
RedC
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I hate to burst your bubble but those leaderboards aren't actually connected to any online service
They're just locally calculated things and the game gives you the arbitrary rank on them based on how well you've done by its own internal logic.
You're not actually comparing or competing with anyone else.
This is a *way* better and more ambitious than Shenmue could ever dream of. Not to mention it's an actual complete game.
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DKehoe
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FUCK. That was my claim to fame!I hate to burst your bubble but those leaderboards aren't actually connected to any online service
They're just locally calculated things and the game gives you the arbitrary rank on them based on how well you've done by its own internal logic.
You're not actually comparing or competing with anyone else.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In our hearts, we're all #1 at Peeping.
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DKehoe
Just pulled this off of my Xbox, you can see how it's broken lol, the overall rating at the bottom puts me at Rank B but on the top there's a huge "S" tag.
Shit's broken, but still very entertaining to see just how many minutes you spent peeping, doing fortunes on the coffee etc etc.
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JimmyRustler
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Sorry, I was too fast with posting yesterday. I meant “worst best game I ever completed”. Had a excellent this with this insane game.
Grizzled Ghost
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I bought a 360 for this game after hearing a glowing review on The Hot Spot podcast lol
I remember getting all the achievements was a pain. All hard mode did was massively jack up enemy health. Isn't that right, Zack?
I remember getting all the achievements was a pain. All hard mode did was massively jack up enemy health. Isn't that right, Zack?
Radical_3d
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They can remaster it at 720@30 with dips. Gentlemen, we have the technology. But working on modern systems.
One of my favourite games of all time. One of the reasons to buy again a SX for cheap when it all crumbles Dreamcast style.
One of my favourite games of all time. One of the reasons to buy again a SX for cheap when it all crumbles Dreamcast style.
Lord Malachite
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I'm gonna raise my hand here and say I prefer the PS3 version. I've played some of it on 360, completed it many years later on PS3. The extra scenes added throughout the game are interesting, though as stated in the OP, non-canon. However, the controls are much better on PS3 than 360, especially when driving. This seals the deal for me as the superior version. As for framerate issues on PS3, I only noticed them seriously at times that didn't matter, usually when picking up an item and you're given a close up of it. It's annoying but since it doesn't happen during combat it doesn't break the experience.
I personally have never gotten the PC version to run properly. I hear that if you can get it running right with all the mods installed it's a dream, but it's not been a go for me. If you can get it running with those mods, it's arguably the best version.
I can say that on the PS3, it's a fun game to Platinum that really rewards you for doing all there is to do in Greenvale. If you don't care about such things and can't get the game running right on PC, then using a reliable PS3 emulator that can help offset some issues is definitely a viable alternatie.
This is not a bad game on the 360 and you may have some serious fun with it there, just be warned that some parts that are very frustrating had controls streamlined on PS3 and PC. I've not played the Switch version, so I have no comment on that particular port.
However you play the game, enjoy! Go in as blind as possible and just enjoy every moment in the weird and wonderful world of Deadly Premonition.
I personally have never gotten the PC version to run properly. I hear that if you can get it running right with all the mods installed it's a dream, but it's not been a go for me. If you can get it running with those mods, it's arguably the best version.
I can say that on the PS3, it's a fun game to Platinum that really rewards you for doing all there is to do in Greenvale. If you don't care about such things and can't get the game running right on PC, then using a reliable PS3 emulator that can help offset some issues is definitely a viable alternatie.
This is not a bad game on the 360 and you may have some serious fun with it there, just be warned that some parts that are very frustrating had controls streamlined on PS3 and PC. I've not played the Switch version, so I have no comment on that particular port.
However you play the game, enjoy! Go in as blind as possible and just enjoy every moment in the weird and wonderful world of Deadly Premonition.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, and they also removed the difficulty option from all future releases, they all have a single mode which is iirc equal to the easy mode on the X360 version. Odd decision, but like mentioned earlier, SWERY was not a fan of adding combat to the game at all, but it was required by publisher mandate. So he did whatever he could to mitigate it.
If you ever play in the future, even on Hard though, the Infinite Wrench you can get from the Becky / Quint sidequest pretty much hour 1 in the game, it can get you through 99% of the game, you just need a reliable ranged weapon for one specific enemy type (the wall crawling ladies).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wait, there's no way to play this on a PS5? I thought the game was on PS+ Premium streaming but I can't find it in the catalog list.
Damn, that's bullshit. Sony, this is prime candidate for up-rendering and a native re-release. I'll buy it ASAP if they do that.
Damn, that's bullshit. Sony, this is prime candidate for up-rendering and a native re-release. I'll buy it ASAP if they do that.
Jack Package
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I have every version of this. I adore it. Despite my profile pic, I cannot bring myself to try DP2, because no matter how much I enjoy it, it will never surpass my original playthrough years ago on the 360.
I just wanted to pop in and say that I love this, more than nearly anything else I've ever played. There will be nothing like it ever again, and I still cannot believe it exists.
I just wanted to pop in and say that I love this, more than nearly anything else I've ever played. There will be nothing like it ever again, and I still cannot believe it exists.
SpiceRacz
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This is a *way* better and more ambitious than Shenmue could ever dream of. Not to mention it's an actual complete game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm sorry, I just find Shenmue an incredibly bland, unfinished, franchise. Yes, I was also hyped for the Shenmue 3 announcement but the final game was such a letdown.
rubik's dude
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Be sure to check out Mizzura Falls on PSX. It was the inspiration for Deadly Premonition, and is another Twin Peaks homage (probably even more so than DP). An English patch finally came out for it just a couple years ago.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
We just passed the 15th anniversary for this amazing game.
Need to replay rising.
Need to replay rising.
semiconscious
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& we're just a bit over 4 months away from the 5th anniversary of its sequel:We just passed the 15th anniversary for this amazing game.
Need to replay rising.
I actually managed to finish this, but, while it wasn't unbearably awful, & even a bit interesting/amusing at times, i've never been tempted to return (unlike the original that i can apparently replay over'n'over effortlessly). not really sure i'd recommend it even to fans of the original, but, for me, it was worth it to the extent i'd likely still be wondering if i should check it out otherwise...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just like you, I can pickup and play the first one any time, hell I beat it again 100% (all side quests) in January. Rewatching Twin Peaks on blu ray and it's giving me the itch to start it again.
I've only played the second one once and have absolutely no inclination to ever revisit it again. Honestly, there's a lot of things that disappointed me, the characterization, the setup, the game play mechanics etc .. just about everything.
I would have been much happier if Deadly Premonition 2 was just Greenvale with another character. The location was just as much of an important character as York or Emily were.
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semiconscious
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i will admit, i enjoyed it quite a bit more than i did alan wake 2, sequel to another game i can replay over'n'over. so there's that, i guess?...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Deadly Premonition and Alan Wake are both basically Twin Peaks from different PoV's and the sequels to both diverged from the formula which made them compelling so I can understand someone not liking AW2.
I, personally, liked it a lot cause I'm also a big survival horror nut and AW2 was a good one of those, but I get if someone doesn't like it because it's so different from the first.
rubik's dude
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I've always been kinda surprised that fans of DP1 didn't like DP2. DP1 is definitely better, but whereas DP1 is a love letter to Twin Peaks, DP2 is a love letter to True Detective Season 1, and I'm a huge fan of both shows. Maybe that's what it is?
I thought the story in DP2 was very good as well. If DP1 is the telling of York/Zach's origin story, DP2 is the passing of the torch and origin story to Patricia, alongside dealing with the consequences of the first game. The cast of characters were pretty endearing as well.
As far as the gameplay goes, I never really played these games for that, but it didn't seem worse. They changed driving cars for the skateboard (I subscribe to the theory that it's because they couldn't figure out how to get driving to work) but they also made the town smaller to compensate for that.
Lastly, the PC port of DP2 is actually stable lol. So there's no need to figure out which version of the game is best; it's 100% the PC version.
Chuck Berry
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I really need to grab this for the S and give it a full playthrough. Thanks for the reminder!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I really need to grab this for the S and give it a full playthrough. Thanks for the reminder!
Never goes on sale for some fuckin' reason, always has been $19.99 since it went back up on BC a few years ago.
I managed to find a physical copy from a local warehouse for posterity.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There is a 'fix', the legendary Durante himself took a crack at the game, but it's still a very messy port even with the fix applied.
Chuck Berry
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Krathoon
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That is it. It still has some random crashes even with the fix applied. The game is just kind of buggy.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Enjoy one of the most memorable games of all time.
I'm not gonna be that guy and tell you how to play the game, but I will just gently nudge that you might wanna look up the side quests via a handy guide or something.
A lot of characters, who just get a passing nod or two in the main game, get dedicated time in their unique side quests, and the characters is where the game shines.
Chuck Berry
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Already found one
I've heard and read tons about the game since its release and watched some of the ER with Jeff and Vinny back in the day. I'm even pretty sure at one point I owned a 360 copy but have no idea what happened to it. Also a Twin Peaks fan (but still haven't seen that newest season).
Somehow I never got around to really sinking my teeth into it. For me that's just bizarre all around. Better late than never though right?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Exactly.
And not having seen TP Season 3 is a positive in this lol. Deadly Premonition is an homage to season 1 (and somewhat 2).
I hope you have a blast!
Roman Empire
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A thread about one of my favorite games of all time?!
I could gush all over this "bad" game, from characters, to the writing, to the atmosphere, and even the janky minigames and terrible driving. I love this game!
I could gush all over this "bad" game, from characters, to the writing, to the atmosphere, and even the janky minigames and terrible driving. I love this game!
Chuck Berry
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In a post SH2R world, what are the chances Bloober could remake this and do it justice
fart town usa
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Not even a bad game. Just a small budget.
deathsaber
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Love this game and it's a total anomaly. On the surface- yes its very much a low budget take on RE4 style survival horror with bad last gen graphics, poor performance, atrocious (or brilliant?) voice acting, janky as hell to play, and nonsensical storytelling.
But for those who give it their time- they find absolute brilliance- yes the graphics/controls, everything is bad- but then you see, for such a low budget thing, rather than being linear they instead made this game feature a fully open world with town to explore and townspeople who actually move around town and go about their lives in the games accelerated version of real-time of whether you manage to engage with them or not. They throw in survival simulator stuff, just because why not, I guess? (you need to eat, shave, change/wash clothes lest they get unkempt and stinky- these systems don't need to be there, but they are in, just because. I completed by playthrough following the critical path, and found to my dismay, I missed like half the content, coming via side quests you would see and get, had you actually engaged with characters when they are at certain locations, at certan times, etc. All this stuff you can just find, or just completely miss.
In short, the game is literally the highest (and also low) effort and brilliant piece of shit you will every play. It's atrocious, and amazing at the same time. The story- there isn't enough weed in the world to smoke and fathom how they came up with this, but yet its nothing short of compelling.
It's a shame the sequel tried to duplicate the chaotic madness/brilliance and basically just wound up being a straight up bad game, minus the charm the brilliant original had.
But for those who give it their time- they find absolute brilliance- yes the graphics/controls, everything is bad- but then you see, for such a low budget thing, rather than being linear they instead made this game feature a fully open world with town to explore and townspeople who actually move around town and go about their lives in the games accelerated version of real-time of whether you manage to engage with them or not. They throw in survival simulator stuff, just because why not, I guess? (you need to eat, shave, change/wash clothes lest they get unkempt and stinky- these systems don't need to be there, but they are in, just because. I completed by playthrough following the critical path, and found to my dismay, I missed like half the content, coming via side quests you would see and get, had you actually engaged with characters when they are at certain locations, at certan times, etc. All this stuff you can just find, or just completely miss.
In short, the game is literally the highest (and also low) effort and brilliant piece of shit you will every play. It's atrocious, and amazing at the same time. The story- there isn't enough weed in the world to smoke and fathom how they came up with this, but yet its nothing short of compelling.
It's a shame the sequel tried to duplicate the chaotic madness/brilliance and basically just wound up being a straight up bad game, minus the charm the brilliant original had.
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