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[Banjo64]

Military leaves parliament after MPs block emergency law

South Korean troops have begun to leave the country’s parliament building after the chamber voted to revoke president Yoon Suk Yeol’s martial law decree.

www.telegraph.co.uk

South Korea lawmakers defy president and block martial law as crowds protest outside parliament - live updates

President Yoon Suk Yeo's surprise late-night declaration of martial law has prompted large demonstrations in Seoul.

www.bbc.co.uk

Summary​

• South Korea's President Yoon Suk Yeol has declared emergency martial law, which he says is necessary to protect the country from North Korea's communist forces and to eliminate anti-state elements
• Lawmakers have since voted to block the president's move, after both the ruling party and opposition vowed to obstruct the declaration
• Protests have been taking place outside parliament, with the BBC's Jake Kwon hearing chants of “no to martial law” as police sirens ring out
• Yoon's People Power Party and the opposition Democratic Party have been locked in dispute over next year's budget bill
• Martial law means rule by military authorities in a time of emergency, and can mean the suspension of normal civil rights
• Analysis: Yoon is mired in controversy and has been a lame duck president since the last general election, writes Jake Kwon in Seoul

 

[Banjo64]

As someone who thought South Korea was a stable nation it’s worrying to see a Western allied nation descend in to what appears to be an attempt to subjugate the electorate.

 

[AJUMP23]

I am going to need a south Korean to explain to me what is going on.

 

[belmarduk]

whoa

I can't see any South Koreans looking toward North Korea and saying "Yeah I want some of that."

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Apparently, martial law has already been detracted.

 

[AJUMP23]

Apparently, martial law has already been detracted.

I saw another story that after Martial Law is declared it does not get undeclared by parliament. It has to be the Pres. Who does the military respond to, that is what matters.

 

[Mikado]

Apparently, martial law has already been detracted.

Phew; the ShiftUp waifu games will be safe for another day

 

[Trunx81]

 

[Banjo64]

From 9 mins ago

Live News - South Korea media: Military to keep martial law

President Yoon Suk Yeol declared emergency martial law in a surprise late-night address.

www.bbc.co.uk

South Korean media reporting military to keep it in place until President lifts it.

 

[EviLore]

Big boned bro was a total badass against this coup soldier who tried to take his phone at the parliament entrance.

 

[AJUMP23]

Big boned bro was a total badass against this coup soldier who tried to take his phone at the parliament entrance.

Just following orders when the executions begin.

 

[MikeM]

The US has a major presence there. Can’t imagine the phone lines between US and SK delegations being quiet right now.

 

[Mikado]

I'm not sure I understand the process here.

"To stop the opposition from turning SK into a military dictatorship like NK, I must turn SK into a military dictatorship like NK"

 

[Hookshot]

I'm not sure I understand the process here.

"To stop the opposition from turning SK into a military dictatorship like NK, I must turn SK into a military dictatorship like NK"

I think it was

"To stay out of prison I'll try to stop my opposition with the military"

Not exactly a coup, but it's apparently not worked and soon he will probably be going away for longer than if he hadn't tried this.

 

[MayauMiao]

Its really troubling that no one saw coming and how easy it was for SK to almost lost its freedom.

 

[DKehoe]

 

[EviLore]

Presidents of South Korea:

1. Syngman Rhee (1948–1960)
• Overthrown following public protests (the April Revolution). Resigned and went into exile in Hawaii.

2. Yun Bo-seon (1960–1962)
• Served as a figurehead president during the Second Republic. Resigned after a military coup led by Park Chung-hee.

3. Park Chung-hee (1962–1979)
• Rose to power after the 1961 coup. Assassinated by his close associate, Kim Jae-gyu, the head of the Korean CIA.

4. Choi Kyu-hah (1979–1980)
• Interim president after Park’s assassination. Removed following Chun Doo-hwan’s military coup in December 1979.

5. Chun Doo-hwan (1981–1988)
• Took power after a military coup. Later sentenced to death in 1996 for corruption and involvement in the Gwangju Massacre but was pardoned in 1997.

6. Roh Tae-woo (1988–1993)
• Elected as the first president under the reformed constitution. Later sentenced to 22.5 years in prison for corruption and involvement in military coups but was pardoned in 1997.

7. Kim Young-sam (1993–1998)
• First civilian president in decades. Played a major role in convicting Chun Doo-hwan and Roh Tae-woo.

8. Kim Dae-jung (1998–2003)
• Longtime opposition leader. Imprisoned and sentenced to death during Chun Doo-hwan’s presidency but later pardoned. Won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 for his efforts in advancing democracy and inter-Korean relations.

9. Roh Moo-hyun (2003–2008)
• Faced impeachment in 2004, which was overturned by the Constitutional Court. After his presidency, he was investigated for corruption and died by suicide in 2009.

10. Lee Myung-bak (2008–2013)
• Convicted of corruption after his presidency and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Released on bail in 2022 for health reasons.

11. Park Geun-hye (2013–2017)
• Impeached in 2017 for corruption and abuse of power, becoming the first South Korean president to be removed from office by impeachment. Sentenced to 24 years in prison, later pardoned in December 2021.

12. Moon Jae-in (2017–2022)
• Left office without scandal or legal repercussions. Focused on progressive reforms and diplomacy with North Korea.

13. Yoon Suk Yeol (2022–present)
• Why not keep a good thing going?

 

[MayauMiao]

If SK did go under martial law, what would happen to Johnny Somali?

 

[Trilobit]

President will lift the martial law

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/12/03/south-korea-yoon-martial-law/

South Koreans probably need a drink now.

 

[Kacho]

I still have no idea what’s going on. Are there any YouTube videos breaking this down?

 

[Hookshot]

Presidents of South Korea:

11. Park Geun-hye (2013–2017)
• Impeached in 2017 for corruption and abuse of power, becoming the first South Korean president to be removed from office by impeachment. Sentenced to 24 years in prison, later pardoned in December 2021.

Was that the one who was in a bizarre cult run by powerful women?

 

[EviLore]

Was that the one who was in a bizarre cult run by powerful women?

Yup:

2016 South Korean political scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ristifer]

So, he declared martial law and then decided to lift it after probably knowing the parliament would vote to have it lifted? What was the point of that, other than to further piss off your entire population for a short period of time?

 

[EviLore]

So, he declared martial law and then decided to lift it after probably knowing the parliament would vote to have it lifted? What was the point of that, other than to further piss off your entire population for a short period of time?

He declared martial law and sent blackhawks with coup troops to parliament to prevent them from voting, however it appears they were able to convene anyway and voted unanimously to lift martial law. The president tried to ignore the vote but it appears the troops stood down.

 

[FeralEcho]

Presidents of South Korea:

1. Syngman Rhee (1948–1960)
• Overthrown following public protests (the April Revolution). Resigned and went into exile in Hawaii.

2. Yun Bo-seon (1960–1962)
• Served as a figurehead president during the Second Republic. Resigned after a military coup led by Park Chung-hee.

3. Park Chung-hee (1962–1979)
• Rose to power after the 1961 coup. Assassinated by his close associate, Kim Jae-gyu, the head of the Korean CIA.

4. Choi Kyu-hah (1979–1980)
• Interim president after Park’s assassination. Removed following Chun Doo-hwan’s military coup in December 1979.

5. Chun Doo-hwan (1981–1988)
• Took power after a military coup. Later sentenced to death in 1996 for corruption and involvement in the Gwangju Massacre but was pardoned in 1997.

6. Roh Tae-woo (1988–1993)
• Elected as the first president under the reformed constitution. Later sentenced to 22.5 years in prison for corruption and involvement in military coups but was pardoned in 1997.

7. Kim Young-sam (1993–1998)
• First civilian president in decades. Played a major role in convicting Chun Doo-hwan and Roh Tae-woo.

8. Kim Dae-jung (1998–2003)
• Longtime opposition leader. Imprisoned and sentenced to death during Chun Doo-hwan’s presidency but later pardoned. Won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 for his efforts in advancing democracy and inter-Korean relations.

9. Roh Moo-hyun (2003–2008)
• Faced impeachment in 2004, which was overturned by the Constitutional Court. After his presidency, he was investigated for corruption and died by suicide in 2009.

10. Lee Myung-bak (2008–2013)
• Convicted of corruption after his presidency and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Released on bail in 2022 for health reasons.

11. Park Geun-hye (2013–2017)
• Impeached in 2017 for corruption and abuse of power, becoming the first South Korean president to be removed from office by impeachment. Sentenced to 24 years in prison, later pardoned in December 2021.

12. Moon Jae-in (2017–2022)
• Left office without scandal or legal repercussions. Focused on progressive reforms and diplomacy with North Korea.

13. Yoon Suk Yeol (2022–present)
• Why not keep a good thing going?

Man,all those korean dramas I watch where every political party is corrupt in some way is based very strongly on real life counterparts I guess...Yikes.

 

[FeralEcho]

If SK did go under martial law, what would happen to Johnny Somali?

Hopefully left under some prison everybody forgets ever existed.

 

[Lord Panda]

This was not on my 2024 bingo list, but given the widespread and historic corruption in Korea I shouldn't really be surprised.

 

[jason10mm]

Ya'll Korean kpop women bands can come claim asylum at my house!

 

[UltimaKilo]

He declared martial law and sent blackhawks with coup troops to parliament to prevent them from voting, however it appears they were able to convene anyway and voted unanimously to lift martial law. The president tried to ignore the vote but it appears the troops stood down.

His political future was already over before this, now it’s dead.

 

[near]

Wow. He could've started a civil war. Glad it's been averted for now.

Man,all those korean dramas I watch where every political party is corrupt in some way is based very strongly on real life counterparts I guess...Yikes.

100%. A lot of the corruption depicted KDramas are rooted in reality. Chaebols, military, education, policing, all of it. Despite all that, they maintain a functioning and stable society with law and order.

 

[lachesis]

I don't think he can really go on much with this stunt. People have pretty horrible memories regarding Martial Law / Coup. I think he will step down. (or get arrested)
Their majority congress is also as corrupt as they come, so I'm rather skeptical of what will happen too.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Ya'll Korean kpop women bands can come claim asylum at my house!

 

[YCoCg]

Big boned bro was a total badass against this coup soldier who tried to take his phone at the parliament entrance.

The look on the soldiers face, he's bamboozled

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I still have no idea what’s going on. Are there any YouTube videos breaking this down?

Aliens were supposed to invade Earth today so South Korea declared Martian Law.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Damn, reading that list of presidents... maybe these people should give monarchy a chance.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Should just split Korea into thirds. Give this dude the border of NK/SK and like no ability to use weapons or fuck with its neighbors. Yes, this is only because I want the dude to be president of a country called Mid Korea.

 

[apocaliptic]

Should just split Korea into thirds. Give this dude the border of NK/SK and like no ability to use weapons or fuck with its neighbors. Yes, this is only because I want the dude to be president of a country called Mid Korea.

The oposition should take the border with SK and NK. They are more in line with Russian politics

 

[Paltheos]

Big "My, how embarrassing" energy.

Only skimmed a BBC article on the story. Thankfully:

Under South Korean law, the government must lift martial law if a majority in parliament demands it in a vote.

The same law also prohibits martial law command from arresting lawmakers.

 

[Mistake]

Sounds like business as usual in south korea. Hell, if anything they're just more open about it compared to their western counterparts

 

[Pagusas]

Im going on a vacation this spring that starts in Seoul, I hope things calm down by then

 

[-Minsc-]

What?

 

[newtypepilot]

from what I read he has been super unpopular and this is just a last ditch desperate attempt at holding power as there were threats of impeachment.

Parliament voted unanimously to lift the martial law (including everyone from his own party) so yeah he's a goner.

 

[Toons]

Second saddest coup attempt I've seen in the last few years.

 

[AJUMP23]

Presidents of South Korea:

1. Syngman Rhee (1948–1960)
• Overthrown following public protests (the April Revolution). Resigned and went into exile in Hawaii.

2. Yun Bo-seon (1960–1962)
• Served as a figurehead president during the Second Republic. Resigned after a military coup led by Park Chung-hee.

3. Park Chung-hee (1962–1979)
• Rose to power after the 1961 coup. Assassinated by his close associate, Kim Jae-gyu, the head of the Korean CIA.

4. Choi Kyu-hah (1979–1980)
• Interim president after Park’s assassination. Removed following Chun Doo-hwan’s military coup in December 1979.

5. Chun Doo-hwan (1981–1988)
• Took power after a military coup. Later sentenced to death in 1996 for corruption and involvement in the Gwangju Massacre but was pardoned in 1997.

6. Roh Tae-woo (1988–1993)
• Elected as the first president under the reformed constitution. Later sentenced to 22.5 years in prison for corruption and involvement in military coups but was pardoned in 1997.

7. Kim Young-sam (1993–1998)
• First civilian president in decades. Played a major role in convicting Chun Doo-hwan and Roh Tae-woo.

8. Kim Dae-jung (1998–2003)
• Longtime opposition leader. Imprisoned and sentenced to death during Chun Doo-hwan’s presidency but later pardoned. Won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 for his efforts in advancing democracy and inter-Korean relations.

9. Roh Moo-hyun (2003–2008)
• Faced impeachment in 2004, which was overturned by the Constitutional Court. After his presidency, he was investigated for corruption and died by suicide in 2009.

10. Lee Myung-bak (2008–2013)
• Convicted of corruption after his presidency and sentenced to 15 years in prison. Released on bail in 2022 for health reasons.

11. Park Geun-hye (2013–2017)
• Impeached in 2017 for corruption and abuse of power, becoming the first South Korean president to be removed from office by impeachment. Sentenced to 24 years in prison, later pardoned in December 2021.

12. Moon Jae-in (2017–2022)
• Left office without scandal or legal repercussions. Focused on progressive reforms and diplomacy with North Korea.

13. Yoon Suk Yeol (2022–present)
• Why not keep a good thing going?

This is unreal.

 

[kevboard]

Big boned bro was a total badass against this coup soldier who tried to take his phone at the parliament entrance.

 

[6502]

Big boned bro was a total badass against this coup soldier who tried to take his phone at the parliament entrance.

At first I thought, what a pussy... then for a second I saw phone guy. Ain't no way anyone would pick a fight with a guy who looks like Sammo Hung in the middle of Martial Law.

 

[NickFire]

Have to respect the military people who stood down after such a crazy order.

 

[SF Kosmo]

As someone who thought South Korea was a stable nation it’s worrying to see a Western allied nation descend in to what appears to be an attempt to subjugate the electorate.

Western alliance may be a major point at issue here. Yoon is tightly aligned with the US and has pushed for anti-labor policies and normalization with Japan, both at the behest of US backers. These policies have been deeply unpopular.

There is also a lot of discontent in Korea broadly, they have massive wealth consolidation and income inequality; 6 families account for about 60% of the GDP and another 50 or so account for most of the remainder. So there is just a massive amount of corruption baked into the system both direct and implicit.

They're also going through a culture war crisis, drawn mostly down gender lines, which is leading to a severe birth rate collapse. Basically young men being so noxious in their attitudes toward women that no one will fuck them, and it's gotten so bad that they literally raid game developers to demand the firing of random employees they suspect of being "feminist sympathizers."

It's all very bad, like social collapse bad. It's also like a very exaggerated version of a lot of the same patterns visible in America. Except America doesn't really have enforceable anti-bribery laws anymore unless it's foreign and explicitly attached to a quid pro quo, so the corruption angle doesn't get the same public outrage.