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[Dr Bass]

It's timed exclusive, coming in 2022, but on Gamepass day one.

Timed ... in what sense? Coming to PS5 later? I don't see anything on the site mentioning anything about it being timed. Do not care in the slightest about GP. I would buy it.

 

[systemr123]

This. Only PS fans could call this a weak E3. Imagine Sony selling nearlly 30 games all coming out within the next 16 months for $6 and calling it 'weak'

It’s not like all of those 30 games are great AAA games. Quality over quantity maybe? Also, last gen PlayStation had more than 4000 games, and MS a little over 1000. So MS loses in both quantity and quality.

 

[Clear]

Decent show, but too little actual gameplay footage and very obviously a GamePass showcase (as I expected).

Not enough to convert me, but a solid enough line-up on GP.

Honest truth though, its still another Xbox year headlined by Forza and Halo, franchises that if I cared about, would have bought into long ago. And were that the case I'd have probably bought a console for by now. So really not sure how many new subs this lineup will pull in.

Maybe next year.

 

[El Pistolero]

How many Xbox conferences have you seen out of curiosity?

They all are in the fans collective imagination. You want to know how they really feel about them, wait until the next one is announced. The level of self-hypnosis and auto-persuasion is always at an all time high following MS shows.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

This. Only PS fans could call this a weak E3. Imagine Sony selling nearlly 30 games all coming out within the next 16 months for $6 and calling it 'weak'

Only an xbox fan would watch that and think it was great, it was a mediocre show that had no excuse to be that. I own a series x and this didn't give me anything to be excited about other than the Ascent which I already was (and can get on PS5 later) and a couple of indie games that look interesting. MS 1st party stuff is just the same old thing and I'm sorry but Bethesda didn't show anything worth a damn today. A cinematic that was called gameplay and then a cull CGI trailer to announce a game that's a long way off.

 

[Naked Lunch]

It is a red flag. Starfield gets an exact release date 18 months from now, and Halo can't nail a date five months from now? Fearing something's afoot in the house of Chief.

Its possible the Halo multiplayer might launch before the campaign. Maybe thats the reason for the vague release. I would be ok with this.

 

[SportsFan581]

Or PS5/PC.... honestly if they actually do release most if not all games on PC too..I dont know why anyone would honestly get an X over a PC tbh. Im going to be in the PS5/Switch/PC camp. Need to upgrade and build a new PC as im due for another build, have switch already, and will buy a PS5 when I can find one more available

An Xbox is $300/$500, a serviceable PC is $1k+. Affordability and ease of use have always been the primary reasons to buy a console.

 

[dcmk7]

Missed this show, so there was no acquisition news?

 

[ZehDon]

Its possible the Halo multiplayer might launch before the campaign. Maybe thats the reason for the vague release. I would be ok with this.

I hadn’t considered that, actually. If it’s not their plan they may be considering it if one part falls behind; why delay multiplayer if it’s just the campaign that needs work.

 

[Kagey K]

I have a question about gamepass: when a first party game is available in Gamepass, is it there forever? I had Gamepass on PC and I know third party games are removed from time to time, like in Netflix, but what about first party?

1st party is there forever.

 

[TonyK]

1st party is there forever.

Then Gamepass value is absurdly high. When I will buy a XBseX, even if I pay Gamepass during 5 years, it would be less than all the first party games I would buy at full price. My only concern it was if they would remove some of them with time.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Then Gamepass value is absurdly high. When I will buy a XBseX, even if I pay Gamepass during 5 years, it would be less than all the first party games I would buy at full price. My only concern it was if they would remove some of them with time.

5 years of Gamepass Ultimate, which if you want to play online is what you'd buy, is $900.

It's not really that cheap of a service at full price. A great value if you use it a ton, but that's the cost of a whole lot of games.

 

[Ogbert]

Series S a lead weight on development for Halo? Come on it's coming for Xbox One... S has the same CPU and SSD, not a Jaguar anemic CPU.

Sorry, that was what I meant.

Too many bloody Xboxes!

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

didn't watch the conference was a date given for Halo at all?

 

[SportsFan581]

They confirmed it was a true Xbox exclusive not once, not twice, but three different times during the entire conference.

Say what? How'd they do that.... But what about the other table.... the money on it...

 

[Bogroll]

It’s not like all of those 30 games are great AAA games. Quality over quantity maybe? Also, last gen PlayStation had more than 4000 games, and MS a little over 1000. So MS loses in both quantity and quality.

Your talking out your arse. Xbox had way more than 1000 games last gen.

 

[Ogbert]

didn't watch the conference was a date given for Halo at all?

Christmas this year, so I’d guess first week in December.

And I think they said that multiplayer is free to play.

 

[buenoblue]

Very bad for me. Microsoft just has very little I'm interested in right now. I love Forza and I'm intrigued with starfield but that's about it. I'm all about high production single player games. Thank God for Sony.

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

Christmas this year, so I’d guess first week in December.

And I think they said that multiplayer is free to play.

Epic i'll be getting my series x around then (hopefully)

Thanks bud

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

What I felt is that there are too many multiplayer / co-op first party games.

 

[Highway Star]

Being fortunate enough to get my meat hooks on a xsx a couple of weeks ago. I was looking forward to 3 games, flightsim, forza horizon, and battlefield. All 3 are delivering, so my year is set.
The xbox has no games argument is over.

 

[Orutisu Furio]

lack of campaign info for halo should be a warning sign.

calling it now, halo campaign likely delayed until spring 2022 and multiplayer launches first. They can’t even give an exact date Stil. Something is up.

 

[Kagey K]

What I felt is that there are too many multiplayer / co-op first party games.

Xbox tends to be a more social platform and make games for friends to play together.

Fun fact though, all of those games can be played solo as well if that’s what you are into.

 

[Matsuchezz]

it is timed exclusive, if I recall correctly.

Awesome I can wait then. I enjoy those games a lot they are ideal for a sunday afternoon night.

 

[skakmk]

I expected at least one proper gameplay trailer.

That Gamepass lineup though!!!

 

[Mister Wolf]

Why is Cortana deleted. Like time I checked she was all powerful and poised to rule over the galaxy.

 

[systemr123]

Your talking out your arse. Xbox had way more than 1000 games last gen.

You’re right, I checked. It’s around 2700 games for Xbox. The rest still stands though

 

[SportsFan581]

5 years of Gamepass Ultimate, which if you want to play online is what you'd buy, is $900.

It's not really that cheap of a service at full price. A great value if you use it a ton, but that's the cost of a whole lot of games.

Can't really look at it as $900 for games, not if you would have spent $300 on Gold anyway (and if you don't want Gold GP is available without it). $600 is only 8.5 $70 games, and with MS targeting 4 releases a year, or 20 games in 5 years, that's not a bad value at all. Plus all the third party content they've got going.

 

[FritzJ92]

This was a perfect show for xbox

 

[Jigga117]

5 years of Gamepass Ultimate, which if you want to play online is what you'd buy, is $900.

It's not really that cheap of a service at full price. A great value if you use it a ton, but that's the cost of a whole lot of games.

How much is Disney+’ Netflix or buying all those same games even with discounts in the same 5 years? Get to calculating because that’s how silly this when it comes to any service. people bought DVDs for the cost of one month of Netflix and 1 Cd for the cost of Apple Music.

 

[Hitchyhero]

Alright let me go through these.

STALKER 2
- Hyped for it, but it's a third party game

Psychonauts 2
- I have no faith in Double Fine.

Starfield
- Could be cool, but Bethesda hasn't been good as of late. No gameplay in trailer leaves me lukewarm

Outer Worlds 2
- Making fun of CGI trailers doesn't make it OK to do one. OW1 was disappointing, so I'm not particularly hopeful about this one

Back 4 Blood
- Shitty studio trying to harken back to the only good thing they did. Looks to be an MTX-filled shitfest. Would rather play L4D2 with mods.

Redfall
- Left 4 Vampire. We really needed another shitty co-op shooter. Why would you have Arkane make this instead of something like Prey 2, Dishonored, etc? Trailer didn't give me any reason to care

Forza Horizon 5
- Looked amazing, but it's just another Forza game.

Halo Infinite
- Looked pretty sick, but my faith in 343i is zero so my hype is tempered. Definitely noticed improved lighting vs. the previous reveal.

Replaced
- Cool looking indie game. Will check out when it hits Game Pass.

A Plague Tale: Requiem
- I was iffy on the first game. Hopefully they make it play better. Will check it out when it hits Game Pass.

Atomic Heart
- This screams 10/10 premise, 6/10 game. Will check it out when it hits Game Pass.

Diablo 2: Resurrected
- Looks great. Third party game releasing on everything with a GPU, though.

So the only game you like is one that's on the platform you have. Shocker.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Xbox tends to be a more social platform and make games for friends to play together.

Well, I guess that is because Xbox started with the introduction of Xbox Live. Probably it created a generation of socially connected gamers basically.

 

[tmlDan]

It was a great showing by Xbox! barely any solo story games but if they focus on social games im good with that, that makes them stand out against Sony where having both is the best of both worlds.

The end was terrible tho, a game coming out next year and only a CG trailer? I am assuming late 2022 then.

 

[gow3isben]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Not a single thing that excites me. Not a single megaton. Couldn't even show Halo's campaign.

Starfield was just a boring nothing.

I will buy Series X eventually but looks like not until 2023-24

 

[reksveks]

The 4k stream looks mighty fine. Damn the shit bit rates of live streams

 

[Yselacrey00]

Xbox tends to be a more social platform and make games for friends to play together.

Fun fact though, all of those games can be played solo as well if that’s what you are into.

What a dumb take. It's not about playing solo or with friends. What's the fun on playing a multiplayer game by yourself? My god what a dumb statement.

 

[Kagey K]

What a dumb take. It's not about playing solo or with friends. What's the fun on playing a multiplayer game by yourself? My god what a dumb statement.

Just because they have co-op doesn’t make them multiplayer.

Gears and Halo are just as fun solo as they are with friends.

 

[niilokin]

thought this was a solid show, lots of good shit coming althought pretty far from now.

might actually play Halo for the first time after the first one and Back4Blood looks cool.

 

[tmlDan]

What a dumb take. It's not about playing solo or with friends. What's the fun on playing a multiplayer game by yourself? My god what a dumb statement.

Can you relax, I have fun playing multiplayer alone....maybe people do.

 

[Dr Bass]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Not a single thing that excites me. Not a single megaton. Couldn't even show Halo's campaign.

Starfield was just a boring nothing.

I will buy Series X eventually but looks like not until 2023-24

Starfield could end up great. I personally like the aesthetic, and sci-fi always has potential for a great atmosphere, but yeah they showed nothing. Obviously we will see more, but it's a year and a half away.

I'll probably get XSX for Replaced next year. I was gonna do it for Flight Sim, but I just don't think I have the kind of time that game requires.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Is anybody else wondering why Arkane spent all that money on a 5 minute CGI trailer and couldn't show a lick of actual gameplay.

I’m used to it by now. Unfortunately, that’s a consistent and imo an annoying trend in this industry. Show high end CGI trailer and no actual gameplay to try to get people hyped up. Also, CGI generally indicates that the game is far off as well.

 

[Denton]

5 years of Gamepass Ultimate, which if you want to play online is what you'd buy, is $900.

I have gamepass ultimate from october 2019 until april 2024 and paid $200.

Best deal ever.

 

[gow3isben]

Starfield could end up great. I personally like the aesthetic, and sci-fi always has potential for a great atmosphere, but yeah they showed nothing. Obviously we will see more, but it's a year and a half away.

I'll probably get XSX for Replaced next year. I was gonna do it for Flight Sim, but I just don't think I have the kind of time that game requires.

It could but i wish they would show something of it besides this boring nothing that we got. It isn't even that far out anymore unless it gets delayed.

 

[Rick Dangerous]

Meh.
ZzzzzzZZZ.
All the hype for this show ?

 

[reksveks]

I’m used to it by now. Unfortunately, that’s a consistent and imo an annoying trend in this industry. Show high end CGI trailer and no actual gameplay to try to get people hyped up. Also, CGI generally indicates that the game is far off as well.

Summer 22 so within the year

 

[Dr Bass]

It could but i wish they would show something of it besides this boring nothing that we got. It isn't even that far out anymore unless it gets delayed.

A year and a half is kind of a long time ... We are talking about it being on the doorstep of 2023.

But yeah there should be SOME gameplay to show. Can't disagree there.

 

[Rentahamster]

I didn't have time to watch it but I did see the Halo clip, which looks nice. Did any of the bomba rumors pan out?

 

[reksveks]

Is anybody else wondering why Arkane spent all that money on a 5 minute CGI trailer and couldn't show a lick of actual gameplay.

Marketers think they need a tone piece

 

[Hezekiah]

They are clearly trying to hide Halo still, "gameplay captured in engine" it didn't even say actual gameplay on xbox series x and it's not like it looked all that great anyway.

Starfield "gameplay" was a quick cinematic with NO gameplay lol.

Forza Horizon looks good but why show an "in engine" trailer that looks so much better than the actual gameplay just before?

Stalker 2 looks like what we knew it did

Battlefield gameplay was meh, I've lost almost all interest in this game.

Far Cry gameplay looks better than the cinematics, the faces look terrible in that game.

Some good looking indie style games coming with quite a few being launch exclusives like the ascent.

Halo is going to look shit graphically, people need to accept that. The contrast with 2042 will be stark.

Quite a lot of games I haven't heard of, but lots of 'B' releases to help fill out the GamePass catalogue. Never played a Forza game before, but might get Horizon on PC if it's any good.

Disappointing news about Starfield, but not surprising in the least. Can see it slipping to early 2023 realistically.

Stalker could be interesting.

 

[IntentionalPun]

How much is Disney+’ Netflix or buying all those same games even with discounts in the same 5 years? Get to calculating because that’s how silly this when it comes to any service. people bought DVDs for the cost of one month of Netflix and 1 Cd for the cost of Apple Music.

Different industries; rather vapid comparison beyond "you pay a monthly fee and it's media."

Would you have actually spent $900 over the next 5 years to play the specific games offered on GamePass? That's the question.. and why wouldn't you spend that money? Likely because you didn't actually want to play all of the games.. nor did you necessarily have the need to play them day one when they are expensive, as you could be engulfed in another game for weeks, months, or even years at a time.

Like I said, the value is based on how much you actually would have spent on the games you wanted to play, or ended up liking that you might not have tried.

People often only play a game or 2 a year, because.. that's all they have time or interest for.. games are something people spend dozens of hours on, they aren't movies they watch once or twice.

And they generally choose those games they want to play.. not have a service choose the games for them, and games they want may never come to it.