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Uncharted 3 reviews
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Checkpoint (videogame web news satire from LoadingReadyRun) make fun of this entire thread:
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/uncharted-charted
See if you're one of the one's they quoted!
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/uncharted-charted
See if you're one of the one's they quoted!
Fratkabula
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Papercuts said:
I don't think you're serious about Bioshock, Killzone, Oblivion, Saints Row and Diablo being different. If you are serious, then you make GAF look hypocritical too.
And I'm comparing Fallout3s and GTA3+s. Not the older ones, obviously. The GTA 4 backlash was for the exact same reason. It wasn't different enough, gameplay wise, from the 3s.
kayos90 said:
Of course it should be mentioned if a certain part of the game is lacking. However, it should not be an automatic point deduction. As you have said, it should be based on the entire experience. You could have a game that has no flaws, solid in every respect, but still only give a medium amount of enjoyment. Then you could have another game which is extremely enjoyable, with some minor flaws....which should score better, the one with " no flaws"? I don't think so. But I guess now I'm getting off the topic.
Whether Uncharted has problems with it's gameplay mechanics or not, If we are basing scores by means of comparisons to to other games in the same genre, AND if the game is OVERALL better than those games, the score should reflect this. As I said, this is not how I feel reviews should be done( strictly comparing them to to others in the same genre), but this was the topic I was commenting on.
Lulz at StuBurns' comment being CheckPoint's favorite in that segment. I seriously wonder wonder how Uncharted 3 came to be the focal point of attention in the gaming world as of late; the reactions were incredibly stupid, but it's not the first time children go apeshit over review scores either. Poor game 
Zane said:
Primarily the former, though I suppose I shouldn't assume you couldn't be. Regarding the latter, if the reviewer is correct about cutscenes not being more agreeable(and really they/you have no way of knowing this after they have already made judgement), they are an unusual case. I base this off of the amount of complaints given to scripted sequences VS cutscenes in videogames. Scripted sequences receive much more flak, and mostly the only time cutscenes are complained about is when they are excessively long or ridiculously frequent and at inopportune moments (or if the cutscenes themselves suck of course).
Uno Venova
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I wonder if it was this bad for Zelda, I wasn't online at the time.Batmonk said:
Ghost_Protocol
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Even though it makes no rational sense, I somehow understand what he means. 5/5 somehow seems less like 100% than 10/10, even though it isn't.
BeeDog said:
He is actually correct. Consider how frequently 5/5 is given out compared to a 10. A reviewer using a 5 point scale actually considering it being 80-100 will not always be the case( it's actually probably usually NOT the case), but he is correct in implying that 10/10 is more rare. I don't know the entire context of the quote, but from what I've seen it makes sense.
The greater the number, the smaller each point is worth, and the easier it becomes to shave points off. With a 5 point scale, you have very little room for making slight deductions.
Fratkabula
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Ra1den said:
The joke's on CheckPoint then. StuBurns even mentioned it as 10.0/10.0 and not 10/10, as the video shows. Manipulative fucks.
Sinthetic said:
I get what he was saying too. It wasn't the best quote to put in that video when there were a lot worse ones.
It would have been better if he just said they weren't the same thing. For example, if you are going to give a game a 91% or 9.1/10, on a fixed 5 point scale you either have to give it a 4/5 or 5/5.
Square Triangle
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BeeDog said:
Hhahahaha omg.
Cow Mengde
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Batmonk said:
Hahaha holy crap! Damn, too bad I missed all the commotion. I'll need to spend some time reading through this thread.
I give that video a 5/5.
Fratkabula
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Mxrz said:
Its interesting to see how the gaming press defend and feed off each other. Like you said, god forbid if we don't agree with them or their processes. Its crazy how much they need to have the last word on everything.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I'll be glad when this whole fixation with GAF's "overreaction" is done with. It makes no goddamn sense at this point to keep going on about it.
And Stuburns is absolutely right that a 5/5 is not the same as a 10/10. Well done there, CheckPoint.
And Stuburns is absolutely right that a 5/5 is not the same as a 10/10. Well done there, CheckPoint.
ViewtifulJC said:
Like I said, this has been the case since Uncharted 1 and some reviewers are just now starting to consider this a major negative aspect to the game, worthy of docking score points?
I don't mind if you gave Uncharted 1, 2, and 3 a 3/10 review, bitching to and fro about how linear and unresponsive to player experimentation the series is, but I would hope most people at least stay consistent with what they bitch about.
I personally feel that the lack of freedom for the player for a game like this is trivial and really doesn't matter in the scope of what the game is trying to do, although some might absolutely hate it. But I just think it's amusing that in some sense, with some reviewers, it appears that there was this epiphany of "yeah Uncharted doesn't let me go where I want" between Uncharted 2 and 3 that is suddenly aggravating to the experience now, and wasn't before.
I'm excited to play the game tomorrow so I can see if Naughty Dog really just dropped the ball on this game or if the people who knock Uncharted 3 considerably and suddenly because of "lack of player control" are just bitching as if they've never played the rest of the series before and enjoyed it for what it is, or if those people just hate scripted, linear platform shooters in general. I for one, don't. At least not with Uncharted.
flyinpiranha
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Cow Mengde said:
So ... just 80%?
some of you guys are a whoops.
that's right, a whoops. it doesn't sound like it makes much sense in this post but say it out aloud. " i am a whoops." and it makes perfect sense.
you are all whoops and should be ashamed of yourself for being whoops because that's not the way you act in public.
that's right, a whoops. it doesn't sound like it makes much sense in this post but say it out aloud. " i am a whoops." and it makes perfect sense.
you are all whoops and should be ashamed of yourself for being whoops because that's not the way you act in public.
Square Triangle
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I don't get why this thread isn't locked yet.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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As has been stated SEVERAL times before (and pretty much right above and below my post), a 5/5 is not going to be the same as a 10/10, even if they are mathematically the same. Just compare the number of "perfect" scores for reviewers that use the 5 point scale versus those that use 10s.Sullen said:
Mama Robotnik
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shintoki said:
Yeah, Stub's is nowhere near comparable to the transcendent majesty found in the regal balconies of the Hall of Fame.
The top and bottom quotes are appropriate bookends; the first for its vitriol and bile, and the last for its complete nonsense assumption that all gamers inherently know the score Uncharted 3 deserves, even if they haven't played, seen or heaven-forbid heard of the game.
StuBurn's problem with his reply was that, technically the thread was never supposed to become "this big and famous". He replied in the context of the reviews (and the thread), as to reviews that usually are 5/5 can be anything from 8/10, 9/10 in other sites.Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
But, math-wise 5/5 is still 100% which is the line of thought some are making fun of. On the context of the reviews it's right, but math-wise it wasn't.
By taking the reply out of context, of course people will find it "lolworthy".
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