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Arrowhead Studios confirm PSN Account Requirement decision was on Sony - Game received over 15,000 negative reviews and is now 'Mixed' on Steam
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Probably first thing Monday morning, likely they'll retract this mandatory requirement too.
dotnotbot
Member
Sony chads don't bow down to whiners
xHunter
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NoLootBoxDev
Member
What a shit show, but
ChorizoPicozo
Member
milestone reached
Fabieter
Member
On a serious note its probably gonna be like with horizon forbidden west upgrade path. That shitstorm made them say "okay we reverse it this time, but any future cross gen game will cost money to upgrade to the ps5 Version.
FunkMiller
Member
Of course they fucking will. And every Sony warrior will praise them for it.
Fabieter
Member
What?
FunkMiller
Member
Sony will row back on the requirement, and everyone who has defended their greed in the past few days will praise them for 'making the right decision' despite the fact they didn't think it was the right decision until Sony told them it was.
Holammer
Member
I'm not so sure, but I'm sure lots of Sony legal folks had panic attacks the entire weekend. They need to get rid of this mess quickly before it spreads to the mainstream.
Southpark got some good ideas how to tackle this PR mishap.
Fabieter
Member
Never read anything like that with any fanbase or any shitstorm. But you can bookmark people and show me the next few days.
ManaByte
Gold Member
near
Member
I don't think Sony will backpedal on the PSN requirement, because it's being implemented to serve their long term interests. Since they've also now restricted its regional availability on Steam, those a decision like that would actually benefit won't even see it. They're going to have to double down on the PSN mandate to save face, I kind of doubt they'll admit that implementing it was wrong. The most we'll probably hear is an apology for the oversight to distribute it to regions where the PSN service was not available. It would be ideal however, if they scrapped the idea altogether, but that's too much of a pro-consumer move for them.
Fabieter
Member
Good example to show my blind ass any better?
ChorizoPicozo
Member
it seems Sony is not taking the L then?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I've already wrote my draft. Just spell checking now
Fabieter
Member
No its similar to their fuck up communication with the horizon upgrade and they reveresed that, and said any future thing won't be free.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Tell me video game execs don’t play video games without telling me video game execs don’t play video games.
Dr. Claus
Banned
We literally have console warriors in this very thread trying to minimize and dismiss this as being an issue. If you can’t see that, its on you.
near
Member
It's entirely possible that they will scrap it, or at least make it optional. But it will not remedy the situation, because those actually affected by it will no longer have the benefit of enjoying it, if they've already refunded the game, or have yet to purchase it from those blocked regions.
Holammer
Member
Btw, something absolutely related to this mess.
Ghosts of Tsushima for PC is coming in two weeks and it too requires a PSN account to play. If you live in one of the restricted countries, buy it now! Last chance before the machine figures out it's about to step on another potential landmine.
Ghosts of Tsushima for PC is coming in two weeks and it too requires a PSN account to play. If you live in one of the restricted countries, buy it now! Last chance before the machine figures out it's about to step on another potential landmine.
Mr Moose
Member
Only the online mode.Btw, something absolutely related to this mess.
Ghosts of Tsushima for PC is coming in two weeks and it too requires a PSN account to play. If you live in one of the restricted countries, buy it now! Last chance before the machine figures out it's about to step on another potential landmine.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
... yet
Dr. Claus
Banned
Sony has gone full mental Retard ever since they moved HQ to California. Been a steady downward trend ever since with a few moments of nosediving into the shit pile like here.
Mr Moose
Member
Fabieter
Member
His post wasn't about console warriors downplay anything. Well not entirely at least.
The damage is done but it will help not escalate any further. If they drop the requirement completely its gonna be possible to sell those games in all regions again. Maybe give a bit premium currency or make the next warbound free to ease the way a bit. It will take a while, but good updates and no further fuck ups will make up for it. Look what the no man sky managed ro do over the years.
The only important thing is learn from this and better prepare the next time.
Mr Moose
Member
Which of these one mandated another login months after launch, with said login having zero benefit to the consumer upon implementation?
Fabieter
Member
Warframe?
And on another note but the same logic the vanguard drm/anti cheat on league of legends is logging me out of 10 years of playtime
. And addicts don't care about my feelings :`(. Hypocrits.Too bad league of legends isn't on steam and I can't get all the money of those skins back with my 3000 hours playtime on league because riot surely won't do anything about that.
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Holammer
Member
You should give some context with that, I'm sure a lot of people don't even know what Tarkov is.
TLDR: Tarkov, a niche FPS game on PC charged $250 for a PVE mode and suffered a fair bit of backlash, but nothing compared with what Arrowhead suffers now.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Sony finally got their viral GAAS moment, just not the kind they were after 
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Mortisfacio
Member
Sony finally got their viral GAAS moment, just not the kind they were after
Truly hilarious. First successful PC launch of a Sony title and they manage to screw it up.
The crap part about this is they sold the game to countries you can't create a PSN in. My ideal outcome of this is we stop seeing 3rd party auth to play a game (this goes for any game where you need a different account than the service/platform you bought the game on). That will never happen, but these companies wanting your data then consistently getting hacked and losing your data is so annoying.
dotnotbot
Member
Popularity has been driving downhill fast anyway, this drama won't help but the course has been obvious for a while:
Mortisfacio
Member
Popularity has been driving downhill fast anyway, this drama won't help but the course has been obvious for a while:
The main thing I notice about these charts is this is the first week where the weekend actually saw a player dip from the weekdays. Sat/Sun currently lower than mid week. First time that's happened.
Fabieter
Member
No company is safe of getting hacked tho. Most companies even sell those data intentionally, including most companies you probably trust. Well the digital future is fucked up tho.
Mortisfacio
Member
That's exactly my point, though. Why force 3rd party auth? It's just an additional place to get your data leaked from with no upside. Helldivers being the epitome of this. PSN link has no benefit, but an additional outlet to take and then lose your data.
dotnotbot
Member
Yeah but also note that the amount of players during the working days of last week didn't drop significantly like it did in the previous weeks. So the smaller weekend peak is understandable.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
LOL what data are you talking about. You only need an e-mail address. I can create a gmail account in 2 seconds and never use it again.
If you have an apple product, you can generate a fake proxy e-mail address for your real e-mail address. You can even use a fake birthdate.
Again, this is laughable.
Shake Your Rump
Member
I am an interested spectator with questions:
1) Has the developer said why they launched the game without PSN support despite knowing it would be required? The only statement I have seen is "so people could play the game".
2) Knowing the developer did the above, why are people angry at Sony?
1) Has the developer said why they launched the game without PSN support despite knowing it would be required? The only statement I have seen is "so people could play the game".
2) Knowing the developer did the above, why are people angry at Sony?
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yes they said:
1) Server problems. They disabled PSN requirement right at launch and knew they have to reenable it since then. They act like they forgot
2)People are uninformed/communication problems.
The only sony fault here is selling the game in psnless countries.
Fabieter
Member
Well the things sony fucked up was selling it in countrys where psn isnt availabe. So that's the main thing with a little bit of bad communication but besides that it's overblown as fuck.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
As a publisher, Sony is the one managing the network conditions. Devs just care about making a great game, their responsibility should end there.
The fact that we haven't had a statement from Sony is self-explanatory of how badly managed they are. We don't even know who the people in charge are. In a normal organization, SOMEONE is on top of PC game performances. And that someone should be fired for this.
Sony has not been able to appoint a CEO for their gaming division. This is flat-out ridiculous. Other than Yoshida, I got the feeling that none is doing shit at an executive level.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In light of that guy's recent tweets, it seems they're both responsible to an extent.
1. It was the developers decision to not do the forced PSN linking at the games launch.
However, I can't imagine that decision would be approved without the publisher going over it.
2. The publisher is the one responsible for selling the game, they're selling the game in 170+ territories where they very well know PSN doesn't exist officially, via Steam. There should have been some amount of foresight long before this happened.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
The bigger question if it affects the general attitude towards PSN requirements in Sony's games. In theory it should not as the news move fast, but who knows...