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DOTA2 |OT16| The Last Thread🛈
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The big thing for me is, this upcoming dota2 patch is the most tested dota2 patch of all time. Even the MK patch was on the private test client for just 2-3 weeks. So obviously there is an alpha testing phase (icefrog + friends) that we can't see, but on the steam client that we can see (valve + friends + family); every major patch has been there for at most ~4 weeks. Average 2-3 weeks.
This patch has been tested on that particular client for >8 weeks now. That's insane. That's why I think those leaks around TI are true (4chan + havost) with aghanim's giving every hero a new spell and many of the passive aghs moved into talents; also new talent tier added and talents rescaled to 9/13/17/21/25. Makes sense that something as monumental as this needs a fuck ton of testing.
I just can't see standard balance changes + new items requiring more testing (more than double) than 7.00 lol. Must be some major restructuring going on whether that's gameplay or map related. Or perhaps the design of the new heroes is very fluid idk. Not to mention there are some massive nerfs to some heroes that don't need nerfing (Clinkz) in those fake notes, where the guy seems to think they are a net buff.
the dude that posted it on reddit said it was fake though
and look at things like these:
Fatal Bonds cooldown reduced from 140 to 100 - (?)
ORACLE:
Base damage increased by 15 - jesus
Bloodrite now mini-stuns any unit that it damages - Icefrog dont really like to remove counters unless the hero is garbage, but bloodseeker is being played quite a bit now
Like, I too thought the 7.00 patch was BS so I won't say it's 100% fake, but it's definitely 99% fake
and look at things like these:
Fatal Bonds cooldown reduced from 140 to 100 - (?)
ORACLE:
Base damage increased by 15 - jesus
Bloodrite now mini-stuns any unit that it damages - Icefrog dont really like to remove counters unless the hero is garbage, but bloodseeker is being played quite a bit now
Like, I too thought the 7.00 patch was BS so I won't say it's 100% fake, but it's definitely 99% fake
If that Bloodseeker thing was true, that would be a reason to remove him from CM, lul
That bloodseeker ministun doesn't really sound like a big deal since u would still ignore it with bkb, and if there were heroes channelling their skill inside it they would get silenced and stopped anyways. The only thing that it would affect most would be tps but a tp takes 3 seconds and a perfectly timed bloodrite like instant cast would take 2.9 seconds to go off. Not sure if I am missing anything else but it would definately get stronger, thats for sure especially fighting inside that shit.
Put the Bloodrite down before Rupture, boom, ez kills that you can't do anything about. This is before BKBs, as they hardly matter if he just wins the game before anyone can buy them. Bloodrite AoE is huge, so "just walk out" is also easier said than done.
Same. Some of those item names seemed like they were just made up shit too, especially that they didn't even paste the descriptions on there.
Hmm, maybe u are right, forgot if it was possible to tp after being silenced with bloodrite.
rakkadakka
Member
Doom cooldown from 140 to 80.
What.
What.
Changes become exponentially more complicated to test as additional features are added/changed. IÂ’m shocked at the speed they are able to do any of this based on my experience in development.
misses bull
Banned
the notes are fake CUZ NO TECHIES CHANGES DUH
The thing is it isn't just 4 weeks of testing, or 8 weeks. The actual timeframe from development/alpha-testing to visible private testing to release is a good 4-6 months for major patches. There's a lengthy alpha that we can't see with icefrog + his friends (personal beta testers), and prior to that lots of research/data compilation -- I'm sure he's got a google doc of every possible change to a hero and ideas now. He outlined the process back on playdota as dota2 was getting started.
So for months a new patch is tested and we can't see, and then the private test client opens up to valve + friends + family and that's the 2-4 weeks average that we can see. This patch is the anomaly at 8+ weeks on that particular client (where we can see updates).
quality reddit 7.06 in a nutshell post:
pls icetoad, don't let this be the FIRST MAJOR OF THE SEASON PLS
Update: translation is out - https://twitter.com/Brento_Bento/status/920345007659270144
Abilidebob
Member
One of the reasons I don't like to read those pastebins is that because, when the actual patch notes come out and I start playing the game, I start mixing the fake stuff with the real stuff. Something like "wait, wasn't this spell supposed to be pure damage now?" screwing with my head.
But I'm a fucking masochist and I'll do it anyway, fuck.
But I'm a fucking masochist and I'll do it anyway, fuck.
Tart Toter 9k
Member
It might just be because i don't watch pro games outside of majors and TI but i don't mind seeing the green boys in my games.
Also, I just really like picking Lion!
There's definitely been worse FOTM heroes over the years.
Awesome, Thanks for the update! Played it for a while and it's pretty sweet. The moment the boss theme from Strange Journey kicks in is awesome. Really hoping we get a full version some day!
misses bull
Banned
misses bull
Banned
FUCKING GG SEE YOU PPL IN NOVEMBER
A unit selection tooltip where the word 'priority' had a typo was fixed.
Fixed a missing comma in Beastmasters Primal Roar description.
Fixed an extra 's' in some tooltips related to Huskar, Broodmother
Fixed Chaos Knight Phantasm Aghanim tooltip where it reads Phantoms instead of Phantasm.
Added a space between MOVE and SPEED in Monkey King's tool tip modifier.
Fixed some capitalization issues with tooltips related to Riki, Pugna and other heroes.
Fixed the Starstorm no charges error reading Starfall instead of Star Storm.
Fixed Dagon 5 text reading "Upgradeable"
Fixed a missing 'r' on Mango's description.
Fixed a bunch of other missing punctuation marks across various tooltips.
Listed modifiers space now has a fixed with of 170px rather than 47% of the relative space as it was before.
Fixed a missing comma in Beastmasters Primal Roar description.
Fixed an extra 's' in some tooltips related to Huskar, Broodmother
Fixed Chaos Knight Phantasm Aghanim tooltip where it reads Phantoms instead of Phantasm.
Added a space between MOVE and SPEED in Monkey King's tool tip modifier.
Fixed some capitalization issues with tooltips related to Riki, Pugna and other heroes.
Fixed the Starstorm no charges error reading Starfall instead of Star Storm.
Fixed Dagon 5 text reading "Upgradeable"
Fixed a missing 'r' on Mango's description.
Fixed a bunch of other missing punctuation marks across various tooltips.
Listed modifiers space now has a fixed with of 170px rather than 47% of the relative space as it was before.
StrongArmSteady
Member
It is weird that they release this grammer patch, when the community is mega thirsty for the real thing
misses bull
Banned
Consequence
Member
Image of one of the new heroes found in the patch from earlier
shira
Member
Yeah, we cool.
Image of one of the new heroes found in the patch from earlier
ban
sleverfunk
Member
That chaos bolt being random is actually hilarious. It can either stun,root or silence.
sleverfunk
Member
Frieza time
Monochromaticx
Member
sleverfunk
Member
In before Mario Odyssey is an excuse to delay the patch another month, because Valve is playing it.
na see we at valve like to hire renaissance men and women to have all our bases covered, our devs gotta be artists/economists/psychologists/coders/developers in order to succeed
if you have any sort of communication skill or experience you need not apply