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[Shouta]

3 and 4-star TMRs are the shit still though. Greybee/Gravy just had a 70% Katana TMR and there are still units useful for folks that don't have a 7-star in that slot. The devs are probably working on content to use those unit as well like rarity restricted or series restricted content.

 

[Pejo]

I agree about the blue units. If they aren't going to make them at least useful, then they need to lower the rate, because as it stands now why would anyone really use those units. Especially in JP where 7* units have been around long enough that just about everyone has at least two or three of them. They're just taking up space now and have no real value. Honestly, I don't mind 3*/4* units as long as they make them worth using. Just farming their TMR isn't a good enough reason.

Agreed about the blue units being shit. They should at the very least move all blues to the FP pool after X amount of time. I should not still be pulling Bedile in 2018.

 

[EDarkness]

3 and 4-star TMRs are the shit still though. Greybee/Gravy just had a 70% Katana TMR and there are still units useful for folks that don't have a 7-star in that slot. The devs are probably working on content to use those unit as well like rarity restricted or series restricted content.

Some of the TMRs are good, but there are a bunch of shitty ones, too. I guess that's true for the 5* units as well, but it makes getting these 3* units more of a chore when they should have some kind of real value to the game. 7* units really make anything less than them not worth it. I did try in JP to run some of my favorite 3-4* units since that's what I did in Global, but it really is hard to do since the power levels are so out of whack. Trying to do the Legendary Mog King missions with 4* units is next to impossible (not saying it can't be done, though). It's just much simpler to run with some super badass 7* unit to carry a bunch of dudes to victory. Same with the explorations. With more of the game getting harder and harder (which is natural considering the power creep), unless these 3-4* units got a serious jump in power, they're really not worth anything more than possible support roles or for their TMR (which is also hit or miss).

I agree with Pejo that they should definitely move some of the weaker 3* units to the Friend pool. Those who will never get a power bump and those with obsolete TMRs. They're never going to make Shadow, Bedile, or Rakshasa (sp?) good, so just get them out of the pool. Especially now that the pool is so huge. It could use some trimming of the fat.

Oh...on a side note, I was going through my units in JP today and realized that I had two Primrose units! Damn, I have no idea how that happened or how I missed getting her. So at the end of the day I ended up with 7* Primrose and 7* Olberic. Awesome!

 

[Shouta]

So you have both the Octopath units? Nice.

I've been doing the Mog King with all Barretts myself which has been a bit wild but doable if you have the gear. I definitely agree with getting rid of the weaker 3-stars like Bedile and chucking him to friend summons.

 

[EDarkness]

So you have both the Octopath units? Nice.

I've been doing the Mog King with all Barretts myself which has been a bit wild but doable if you have the gear. I definitely agree with getting rid of the weaker 3-stars like Bedile and chucking him to friend summons.

Muku got lucky and got 7* Red and 7* Aerith. She just pulled Squall a few minutes ago in Global. Man, talk about lucky. I got one Fayte and that's it. Been pretty quiet in Global for me. My JP mog king group is terrible. But strangely enough, I'm almost done getting everything so I can stop doing it fairly soon.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Out of sephiroth, tidus or reberta, who should I be prioritising to team up with orlandeau?

 

[Shouta]

Sephiroth

 

[Pejo]

Out of sephiroth, tidus or reberta, who should I be prioritising to team up with orlandeau?

Seph has a move that perfectly chains with Orlandu's Divine Ruination (Seph's move is called The Heaven's Wept) so he's a good priority. Tidus is great once you get some high end Trust Masteries, but that's a longer term goal. Reberta got some nice enhancements, but is probably a tougher unit to build as you're still somewhat new and lack a lot of heavy hitter TMs.

Anyway, as Shouta said, Sephiroth and Orlandu are great together, but they will cannibalize each other's equipment selection until you start getting more gear and materia. It's a great idea to feed TM moogles into Sephiroth too for that Katana. It's currently the best one in the game and will really boost your attack.

Also - maybe this weekend I'll throw a full evade Noctis up so you can clear the Gilgamesh trial for another good katana and ATK+30% materia. That ought to help a bit.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I didn't realise I pulled another lid somewhere; I guess she's going to be my first 7* when she gets updated.

 

[Pejo]

I didn't realise I pulled another lid somewhere; I guess she's going to be my first 7* when she gets updated.

Nice, she stays relevant with those breaks. Should be helpful!

New banner news is up in the app, units are a total snoozefest, with the one saving grace being some TDH TMs. Easiest pass of the game for me personally, which is good since I wasted too much on Star Ocean.

 

[evangd007]

I take it this banner is so bad that not even 5% 5* and free moogles saves it, huh.

 

[Pejo]

I take it this banner is so bad that not even 5% 5* and free moogles saves it, huh.

Pretty much. There's a popular phrase that's been going on a lot lately "Hoard for Hyoh". I assumed this was just normal meta-level overhyped chatter like normal, then yesterday I saw that BiS Hyoh can eventually do, I quote: 2,231,371,898 per turn, averaged over 6 turns.

2 billion, lol. I mean why even have an other DPS at that point. Now granted, I'm sure it's very difficult to get all those STMRs, but....damn. I"m sold on saving to try to 7* him ASAP, then work towards building his equipment.

 

[EDarkness]

I have Hyou and I don't think he's that great for the day to day. I think Lenneth is way more badass and people should be saving for her if she shows up in a banner. As of now, I figure I'll just save up for her and 2B/A2 if they come back. Having played with a lot of the 7* units in JP, I'm not all that impressed with many of them.

 

[Pejo]

I have Hyou and I don't think he's that great for the day to day. I think Lenneth is way more badass and people should be saving for her if she shows up in a banner. As of now, I figure I'll just save up for her and 2B/A2 if they come back. Having played with a lot of the 7* units in JP, I'm not all that impressed with many of them.

Yea this could be another one of those times to not buy into the hype, but I've seen some vids of him doing some incredible stuff. Do you have him 7* with full TDH?

 

[evangd007]

Pretty much. There's a popular phrase that's been going on a lot lately "Hoard for Hyoh". I assumed this was just normal meta-level overhyped chatter like normal, then yesterday I saw that BiS Hyoh can eventually do, I quote: 2,231,371,898 per turn, averaged over 6 turns.

2 billion, lol. I mean why even have an other DPS at that point. Now granted, I'm sure it's very difficult to get all those STMRs, but....damn. I"m sold on saving to try to 7* him ASAP, then work towards building his equipment.

I have no issues hoarding, I'm approaching 150k lapis and 500 tickets again. However, I'm also a player who doesn't need the best stuff, just good stuff. Besides, Hyoh might be the best, but I have no infrastructure to make a good TDH build.

 

[Pejo]

I have no issues hoarding, I'm approaching 150k lapis and 500 tickets again. However, I'm also a player who doesn't need the best stuff, just good stuff. Besides, Hyoh might be the best, but I have no infrastructure to make a good TDH build.

Fair enough, but even then, this banner's only redeeming thing are moogles and that TDH materia, so gauge that for yourself. I'm personally saving for Hyoh or Gabranth, whichever releases first.

 

[evangd007]

Fair enough, but even then, this banner's only redeeming thing are moogles and that TDH materia, so gauge that for yourself. I'm personally saving for Hyoh or Gabranth, whichever releases first.

I mean, I'm still not pulling here. But I don't know what I am saving for at this point. It was Nier redux/Bravely Default, but both of those appear to be far off, if they're happening in GL at all.

 

[Shouta]

New JP story banner is up. I did the Step-up and got 2 Crimson and the ticket the step-up gives you got me a Summer Fina & Lid. I just have to buy the bundle and I'll have 7-stars for both. I really wanted more Crimson for his STMR but that'll come in time, lol.

 

[EDarkness]

I won't be pulling on the JP banner at all. Good time to horde resources. Unless they come up with something amazing, I'm just gonna save up my tickets and lapis. This goes for Global as well.

I gotta say, this 5% rainbow free daily pull banner is terrible. I've gotten nothing but blue stuff the whole time. I'm at a point that I'm not sure if I want to use the raid currency on the raid banner because I don't have any units to level up with cactaur and I don't have the space to keep them. Not sure I want to buy more slots with lapis or inventory tickets. I have over 400k in raid currency that I need to use up....

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

I have Hyou and I don't think he's that great for the day to day. I think Lenneth is way more badass and people should be saving for her if she shows up in a banner. As of now, I figure I'll just save up for her and 2B/A2 if they come back. Having played with a lot of the 7* units in JP, I'm not all that impressed with many of them.

Are elly, freya, trance terra and ultima not competitive if karlotte makes it to the global pool?

FFBE equip shows 2700 MAG for elly, and 2800 ATK for Hyoh.

Unless bosses started having more SPR in future content, the trend has been significantly lower spr than def to compensate for mages. Or is it the multipliers in Hyohs skills?

 

[Shouta]

Are elly, freya, trance terra and ultima not competitive if karlotte makes it to the global pool?

FFBE equip shows 2700 MAG for elly, and 2800 ATK for Hyoh.

Unless bosses started having more SPR in future content, the trend has been significantly lower spr than def to compensate for mages. Or is it the multipliers in Hyohs skills?

Freya is an LB finisher. She doesn't chain with anyone else and her chains with a dupe are pretty limited. So she's not as great except for when you need to one-shot something with a bit of set-up.

Elly and Trance Terra should beat Karlotte, I think. Their big attacks are all elemental and they can cast more than 4 times at times. Ultima should be able to if you're able to spark chain Divine Ultima or so, I think as she also has 4x Cast as an unlock off her LB. If I remember Karlotte's skill set, she has 3x cast at most and the mods on her major chaining skills are hybrid and a little lower than the others. She's in the same neighborhood but beat? Maybe not.

Things might be a little diff for GL depending on what units make it and how the stacking situation turns out.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

Freya is an LB finisher. She doesn't chain with anyone else and her chains with a dupe are pretty limited. So she's not as great except for when you need to one-shot something with a bit of set-up.

Elly and Trance Terra should beat Karlotte, I think. Their big attacks are all elemental and they can cast more than 4 times at times. Ultima should be able to if you're able to spark chain Divine Ultima or so, I think as she also has 4x Cast as an unlock off her LB. If I remember Karlotte's skill set, she has 3x cast at most and the mods on her major chaining skills are hybrid and a little lower than the others. She's in the same neighborhood but beat? Maybe not.

Things might be a little diff for GL depending on what units make it and how the stacking situation turns out.

No what I mean by karlotte is that karlotte has an excellent magic TDH tmr, allowing for easy high magic mage builds, no?

By competitive I meant competitive with Hyoh, not karlotte.

With karlotte's tmr all those mages can hit very high MAG easy.

+75% EQ Magic when using 1 Weapon (MagTDH)

Should be op, unless it doesn't stack on global

 

[Shouta]

No what I mean by karlotte is that karlotte has an excellent magic TDH tmr, allowing for easy high magic mage builds, no?

Oh. Well, there are a few things that make that bit of a conundrum. First, the stat cap is probably moving to 400% which means that it'll be harder to max it out and make room for EQ MAG. Second, EQ MAG is highly dependent on your gear and if you don't have the STMR level stuff, the benefit from it might not be as good as just trying to get the stats to the new cap. Third, is that a lot of mages have don't have a lot of DH EQ MAG bonuses or they have DH and DW versions of it. This presents a problem because DW'd rod would mitigate the benefit of the DH bonus from Magic Charger a little bit.

GL also might not let Magic Charger stack which would further reduce it's overall power. If you want to see various gear sets for this, I can make them in the JP equip calculator.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Also - maybe this weekend I'll throw a full evade Noctis up so you can clear the Gilgamesh trial for another good katana and ATK+30% materia. That ought to help a bit.

Beat the trial with the help of your rinoa, the revives and dual cast were very nice; didn't get the materia yet though, but the katana is nice.

 

[EDarkness]

Are elly, freya, trance terra and ultima not competitive if karlotte makes it to the global pool?

FFBE equip shows 2700 MAG for elly, and 2800 ATK for Hyoh.

Unless bosses started having more SPR in future content, the trend has been significantly lower spr than def to compensate for mages. Or is it the multipliers in Hyohs skills?

I find that Hyou is good, but there are others who do better, but I guess that depends on the fight. I haven't messed with 7* Elly (I don't think I have her at 7*), but I have a fairly high MAG Freya (2000 MAG, I think). As much as I hate to say it, I think Hyou does better than her, mainly because she can't chain with anyone and her spells take a LONG time to queue up. Much like Kefka in the old days. Not only that, but I feel like the percentages on her skills aren't as good as others, but I haven't messed with that much, so it may just be my perception of things. She's still in my main group, though. With her not using weapons I feel like they are pretty generous with the MAG percentages she gets.

Trance Terra can also be a beast at 7* with high MAG and in my opinion is more useful than Hyou. 4x Chaos Wave is pretty amazing and does some great damage. She needs her TMR to get be able to do that, if I remember correctly.

Still, I tend to use Lenneth over Hyou so I hope we get her. It might be the only time I'll spend money on this game.

Also, I hope they give Tidus a 2x move ability in Global so that he doesn't have to waste a round to be able to use his moves twice. All TDH units get this at 7*...except him.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

These select tickets are interesting, I guess it's prolly a good idea for me to pick a second orlandeau so I can 7* him.

 

[Basoes]

Just got Trance Terra, so I guess she's gonna be my UoC pick

 

[Pejo]

Beat the trial with the help of your rinoa, the revives and dual cast were very nice; didn't get the materia yet though, but the katana is nice.

Sorry man, was super busy last weekend and barely even played FFBE, I'll put a full evade Noctis up there for you to get the rest of the stuff. I *think* i might be able to config him for the dark espers too, but I need to look at my gear for that.

These select tickets are interesting, I guess it's prolly a good idea for me to pick a second orlandeau so I can 7* him.

Yea that's not a half bad idea. 7* will be a huge bump in your team strength at this stage in the game. You have a Basch too, right? If so, waiting until he's available for 7* might not be a bad idea either. He's a great DEF or SPR tank and gets some decent buffs for 7* including a 65% break move and an auto-revive. Your call though, that Orlandeau wil be a big boost, especially if you enhance his skills too, and plenty of chaining partners.

Regarding the confirmation of UoC (yay Gumi, you dun a good for once!), I'm making my personal list of UoC candidates.

1. Probably Basch. He's Warrior of Light 2.0, and his 7* makes him so, so good and versatile. I love his slot efficiency, able to handle breaks and now even reraise himself. What a beast.
2. Eiko. Probably not a popular pick for healer, but again, I always go for characters with amazing slot efficiency. She is absolutely clutch for story event "summon esper" missions, can get rid of party breaks, and is a great healer. When she gets 7, she gets barriers and the AoE full raise, makes herself immune to charm and stop, can restore 100MP to everyone except her in the party. I mean I don't get why she's not more popular. I have 5 Ayaka, and I honestly couldn't care less about her. Eiko does all the important stuff except reraise, but since Gumi loves those damn esper missions, she'll always be relevant.
3. Awakened Rain. Seems redundant to Basch, but he's got a more well-defined role as a top tier magic tank. Seems to be one of the big things needed for a lot of the harder trials
4. Loren. Good attacker and great breaker, though I already have 7* capable Lid, so this goes towards the back end of my needs. Still an awesome unit though.
5. Prishe. Don't even care about her 7*, but I've been wanting one forever just for the TM headgear, which is still best in slot for any unit that can't wear helms, plus I'm a big FFXI fanboy and the representation it got in this game is sad.
6. Lila. Maybe, She wasn't as big of a deal as I was expecting in GL, I heard her 7* is underwhelming too, probably wouldn't waste UoC ticket on this.
7. Prompto. Last choice for now, only because I have his 100% tm moogle finished from the FFXV raid, not even sure if it's good.

I'm sure some future units will come out that I'll want to UoC, but those top 3 are almost guaranteed as I only have singles of each of them right now.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

These select tickets are interesting, I guess it's prolly a good idea for me to pick a second orlandeau so I can 7* him.

Hmmm, about how common are these tickets going to be?

I thought Hyou would be general pool, no? If I'm not mistaken wouldn't that mean one would only need a single hyou and could use the unit select ticket for the second?

Right now I'm thinking on using it for Trance Terra or CG lid.

 

[Omega Supreme Holopsicon]

3. Awakened Rain. Seems redundant to Basch, but he's got a more well-defined role as a top tier magic tank. Seems to be one of the big things needed for a lot of the harder trials

Hmmm, I'd heard rumors awakened rain had a random chance at covering a single target that might block his aoe cover from working all the time. Any truth to that?

 

[Pejo]

Hmmm, I'd heard rumors awakened rain had a random chance at covering a single target that might block his aoe cover from working all the time. Any truth to that?

In my personal experience I haven't had it happen with my 6* Awakened Rain. It is a level 1 talent that gives him 30% chance to do so, though, so i guess it's possible. Good point!

 

[Shouta]

It's pretty uncommon for A.Rain's ST cover to activate and prevent his magic cover from kicking in. I don't think I'v ever had it occur to me.

 

[Pejo]

How are you guys doing with this week's Item World? So far I've enhanced:

1 Excal - Shit bonuses
Farwell - Shit bonuses
Fry's Needle - Could only get 1 MAG bonus
Nue - Shit bonuses
Fixed Dice - Only good bonuses I've gotten so far

I know you can re-do the bonuses, but there are a ton of things I want to enhance out of these weapon types, so I'm just going to plow through. Still, compared to the first Item World, I'm getting a ton of those "auto bravery" and regen buffs this time. Sucks.

These 7* banners are great for me, since I never want to see any of those units pop out of a rainbow again for me, I can easily skip and save. I'm really hoping we get Gabranth news this week, though I doubt we will.

 

[Shouta]

Yuffie and Zack are kinda nuts. JP just got them and they hit hard. They're not a huge leap over the last few big attackers but they have their own little creep elements.

 

[Pejo]

Yuffie and Zack are kinda nuts. JP just got them and they hit hard. They're not a huge leap over the last few big attackers but they have their own little creep elements.

Always good to hear some real FF characters are released and playable. I really hope they go back and make 2nd versions of a lot of our favorites before they move into bringing us more obscure characters though, like FFRK did. I would kill for a 5* base Locke, Celes, or Paladin Cecil.

 

[Shouta]

5-star Edgar and Sabin plz

 

[EDarkness]

Good to hear that Yuffie is awesome. I'm gonna pull for her when I get a chance. Cloud, Vincent, Aerith, and Yuffie were always my favorite FF 7 characters. I hope to have them all, but I wasn't able to get Aerith. I might go ahead and use a Select Ticket to get her at some point. Zack is cool, too, but not sure if I'll get him.

Shouta is Yuffie a TDH unit? I assume Zack is.

 

[Shouta]

Yeah, Yuffie is a TDH character as well.

They also just nerfed Fixed Dice in JP for new content. It's doing really poor damage now, compared to what it was before.

 

[EDarkness]

I figured that might be the case. Seems to the be way things are going as dual wield has been getting the shaft for a while now.

The thing I have to figure out now, is what banner to pull on. I have 15k lapis. There's the 10k banner, which gives a guaranteed FFVII unit and a 5* EX ticket. The problem with that banner is that most likely I'll end up with a unit I already have. I don't need Tifa, Vincent, Cloud, Sephy. The only unit I want to get is Yuffie. Seems not worth it since the odds of getting Yuffie this way is terrible. Even with the 20 tickets they give the odds of getting her is low.

The other is to do the step up banner with Zack and Yuffie. This is probably the best chance I have. Thing is, I can't go all the way to the end since I only have 15k lapis. Though, I don't mind using a Select Ticket if I get one Yuffie. I wouldn't care if I got only one Zack. Getting to the third stage of the Step Up banner seems to give a guaranteed 5* FFVII unit, so there's a chance I could get Yuffie there, too.

Tough decision, I think, but right now I'm leaning towards the Step Up banner since that's the best way to get Yuffie.

 

[Shouta]

It'll take some luck to get Yuffie since it's not a banner that only gives Zack and her like most of the collab raid banners. I want her and Zack but I've spent the tickets I was willing to use already and got nothing. So I'm gonna save for the anniversary in a few months.

 

[EDarkness]

It'll take some luck to get Yuffie since it's not a banner that only gives Zack and her like most of the collab raid banners. I want her and Zack but I've spent the tickets I was willing to use already and got nothing. So I'm gonna save for the anniversary in a few months.

I went ahead and did the Step Up and ended up with a number of rainbow units...but no Yuffie. Ugh. I did get Zack, Citra, Cloud, and Auron. The free 5* pull we got gave me fraggin' Prompto. I don't have anymore resources, so I guess I'm back to saving. I was luckier with the Octopath banner. I also didn't know that this banner was going to be a banner with off banner 5* units. All of those rainbows and only one banner unit. I'm really wondering why I keep doing this to myself. Oh well, I think I'm gonna use a Select Ticket and get Yuffie anyway.

Oh, and I just realized that I can get Auron's STMR. Crazy.

 

[Pejo]

Noooooooooooooo another stupid Gl exclusive collab banner that likely nobody wants. Why can't we just get montser hunter or Bravely Default???

At least there's a somewhat relevant meme already made for it.

 

[EDarkness]

Pejo I saw that this morning and laughed. 7* Adam Jensen. Man, that's just crazy right there. No point in even bothering with this. I might blow some daily pulls, but that's it.

 

[Shouta]

If I actually played GL seriously, I'd want Adam, lol

 

[EDarkness]

If I actually played GL seriously, I'd want Adam, lol

I don't think he even looks all that cool. I would be been more inclined to pull on this banner if they used Denton instead, to be honest.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Since 2b/lara don't seem to be anywhere in sight, and I already spent most of my tickets trying to get fayt, I think I'm gonna spend the rest on this collab; jensen is a baller.

 

[Pejo]

Since 2b/lara don't seem to be anywhere in sight, and I already spent most of my tickets trying to get fayt, I think I'm gonna spend the rest on this collab; jensen is a baller.

Well it looks like it's getting a step-up, so you'll either get him or that other dude if you can do all the steps.

Man I am still getting super unlucky on this round of Item World. I've got so many swords I wanted to enhance and they ended up with like ATK+7% SPR+10% HP+10%. I'll eventually go back and reroll them next time, since IW ends tonight. I got a total of ATK+22% on my Fixed Dice, probably the best I'm gonna get on those bad boys. Just in time to hear that JP has nerfed them pretty hard on the most recent bosses.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Well I got marchenko of a ticket, gonna see how much more lapis I can get from the story to try and get jensen.

 

[Pejo]

Well I got marchenko of a ticket, gonna see how much more lapis I can get from the story to try and get jensen.

Congrats! He looks to be an interesting unit - a hybrid Tank/Finisher.

I burnt a handful of regular tickets, got 1 rainbow - yet ANOTHER Seabreeze Dark Fina. She just won't stop hounding me.

 

[evangd007]

I'm using my 5* EX tickets while Jensen is in the pool. First one was NG Jake #2. Is he not awful at 7*?

My 5% dailies have given me two 5*s so far: Fohlen #1 and Delita #2.