I don't think anyone who plays the game is going to disagree with that. Well unless they work with IS.
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I don't think anyone who plays the game is going to disagree with that. Well unless they work with IS.
BuckRobotron
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For the heck of it started another (not registered and impermanent) account and it took the equivalent of perhaps 150 orbs between restarts to get a middling Ayra. Of course, got Eldigan earlier. But also got Performing Olivia who I am still trying to get on the real account. She's very easy to like, so orbs on the main account will still try to get her while the banner is available.
Got Ayra out of my system without putting $ into that frickin' banner and meh. I do like that she is voiced by Brina Palencia though.
Got Ayra out of my system without putting $ into that frickin' banner and meh. I do like that she is voiced by Brina Palencia though.
ShadowSoldier89
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I feel like there is always someone somewhere that will try and tell you why its a good thing.I don't think anyone who plays the game is going to disagree with that. Well unless they work with IS.
This is the about the only time I've ever seen universal disdain. Even xbox one's original design had defenders.
I wonder how willing nintendo is to remake genealogy. Thats a lot of incest and weirdness to stomach, and not cringey fates "not really incest", just incest.
They'll handle it like they did with Eirika and Ephraim or Raven and Priscilla, probably.
The only super incesty stuff is
Arvis and Deirdre
ShadowSoldier89
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Ares and Nanna. Lachesis wanted Eldigan. Sylvia and Claud (speculative). And beides Ares and Nanna there are a lot of potential cousin pair ups in second gen.
Isn't Nanna the cannon Leif lover tho?
Are.... Oh. Aless.
I'm not completely up to date with all of NoA's new translated names.
I thought Nanna x Lief was canon?
Time to start a shitty Pegasi squad.
ShadowSoldier89
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Canon doesn't really apply much when considering whats possible in the game. A remake could of course drop those options and retool the initial parent lineage to prevent cousin hookups. I'm just wandering how much they would want to retool and how much they would keep intact coming off of valentia.
Go read the support conversation for Ares and Nanna though if you are interested in a Cringe
For the 10000000000th time, there's no incest behind Eirika and Ephraim's relationship outside of translation errors and very avoidable goofs (I get liking Eirika, but there's pretty much no reason to change her title from "Restoration Lady" to "Restoration Queen).
FE4's remake is pretty much a lock. It's overwhelming popularity in Japan and groundbreaking additions have made it a fan favorite. The issue is that the direction will be completely different; Kaga's direction gave it a GoT type atmosphere (teehee FE4 came first) where the world is cruel and unjust with a story and characters that reflected. The remake will inevitably lighten things up but overplay up the dark moments.
They won't take out the incest because it's literally integral to the story.
They're throwing money at the Voice Actors for it in Japan that's for sure. The VAs they got lined up have me super hopeful tbh.
despite the everyone wanting to bone everyone in FE4, considering that NoA didn't shy away from Lucius and Libra androgeny, Raven/Priscilla, Tharja's obsession, Niles being Niles, and Camilla, I don't see much of a problem bringing FE4 to the US.
You got desperation 2 and desperation 3 fodder if you want to spend the feathers though. 😘
ShadowSoldier89
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they did remove most of fates petting minigame, some outfits, and completely skipped translating the same sex partner conversations.
Still when it comes to FE4 I wasn't really thinking of NoA, really just NoJ. Deirdre and Arvis is central to the plot, but with all the free incest rolling around with the characters as you pair them up, I feel like even NoJ would try to at least reel that in these days. The Owain/Lucina situation that someone mentioned above applies, pair them up but they are "Companions" not lovers.
lets hope for fully redesigned maps in all remakes from here on out
shit at only 2k feathers to get to desperation 3, thats a damn nice pull for SI
Fates has cousin incest as well aĺl over the place. I've long since come to accept that someonein a fire emblem game is going to marry or fuck a relative of varying degrees of closeness.
I think an fe4 remake can tackle the issue with grace if they get the right writers to do it. There is so much good in that game that people should experience that I don't want the more taboo aspects of it to prevent it get a new release.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I just realized I have a +Res/-Atk Elincia that would probably be perfect for Def Ploy. I also have a +Atk/-def Est sitting at 3* that could rise up and run the other def Ploy.
Keeping one Arvis though. Quite like him.
Keeping one Arvis though. Quite like him.
Lone_Prodigy
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Slowly building my orbs back up and I'm not sure which banner to pull from. I just want a 40% unit to make TT more manageable.
ShadowSoldier89
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FE4 is one of 3 fire emblem's without an english release that Ive played. Would still play again as I don't remember it (or 1 or 6 for that matter) well at all anyway.
Clearly there's no questioning that FE6 is the best in the series now!
Clarine worships her brother in a very generic, archetypical "all men cannot compare to my brother!" type of way. As far as sibling relationships go, it's not even remotely the most pure.
I think for the really strong units, having two can be nice for something like Tempest Trial.
I mean compared to Thracia PFFT
Thracia is pretty good, but not FE6 good.
Congrats!
Was it worth all the orbs it took to achieve this?
Probably not. But I'll never be short on dancers again.
Im only missing Shigure and currently debating going for him as well... I probably will try if we dont have an interesting Halloween banner: I need to pull blue for my first Reinhart, and in the crazy hope of getting a Nephenee with better IV than mine. ^^
Typical oujou behaviour
Do you have any site that explains the mechanics for summoning? I'm interested in knowing the details.
ShadowSoldier89
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iirc they dance around that as hilariously as all the other ones.
Azura and Corrin would be step siblings with completely different parents. Arete and an unnamed father for Azura. Anankos and an Mikoto for Corrin. Corrin's only true sibling is Lilith, who is not an option for romance
BlueLiquid
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If I'm counting everything up right, at a pity rate of 3% the probability that on the Ayra banner a red summoning orb is a pity breaker but not Ayra is 5.43438%. If she were the sole red focus on the banner, the chance of getting a pity breaker that is not Ayra is 5.42748%. So with Elidigan being another red focus your chances of getting a red pity breaker that is not Ayra only goes up 0.00690724%.
The main thing that makes the difference so small is that the chances of getting a red pity breaker are small to begin with. First the game has to roll a 5* focus or general 5* (only 3% chance for either one) and then it has to roll a red character from the respective pool.
Edit:
I think it's discussed earlier in the thread but it works like this: you start with the given rates for each rarity (currently starting at 5* focus = 3%, 5* = 3%, 4* = 58%, 3* = 36%). When you start a summoning session, the game will make five pairs of rolls for each stone to determine the rarity and then the hero. First it rolls according to the stated rates to pick the rarity. Once that is determined, it randomly selects one unit from all of the units available for that rarity (listed under Details on the banner) with each being equally likely. It then shows you the color of the hero selected. It repeats this for each of the other summoning stones using the same rates for each, and the result of each stone is independent of the others.
The main thing that makes the difference so small is that the chances of getting a red pity breaker are small to begin with. First the game has to roll a 5* focus or general 5* (only 3% chance for either one) and then it has to roll a red character from the respective pool.
Edit:
I think it's discussed earlier in the thread but it works like this: you start with the given rates for each rarity (currently starting at 5* focus = 3%, 5* = 3%, 4* = 58%, 3* = 36%). When you start a summoning session, the game will make five pairs of rolls for each stone to determine the rarity and then the hero. First it rolls according to the stated rates to pick the rarity. Once that is determined, it randomly selects one unit from all of the units available for that rarity (listed under Details on the banner) with each being equally likely. It then shows you the color of the hero selected. It repeats this for each of the other summoning stones using the same rates for each, and the result of each stone is independent of the others.
I'll gladly throw money on a banner that has units that I'd love to have, but even I can understand the fuming surrounding Ayra's banner. She should definitely have been a part of the Genealogy banner and I see it as IntSys looking for more money (obviously) from goons like me who like to spend it. But man! Ayra. Those stats.
ShadowSoldier89
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Oh. .. What... Lol, I completely missed that detail
But Azura isn't bisexual.
dreamlongdead
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The rates for a 5* Focus vs a 5* non-Focus seem to be independent of each other, so how do you calculate the probability of getting either one?
You can't ignore Male Corrin forever.
I'll gladly throw money on a banner that has units that I'd love to have, but even I can understand the fuming surrounding Ayra's banner. She should definitely have been a part of the Genealogy banner and I see it as IntSys looking for more money (obviously) from goons like me who like to spend it. But man! Ayra. Those stats.
Ayra's probably my second favorite character in the series and I would have gladly dropped money to get her if they'd just advertised and released her normally. Instead I'll invest in something less nauseating. Like two hundred gallons of mayonnaise, or a clown figurine collection.
Ha, I'd like to get her as well but not taking part in this banner at all (excluding the free pull of course).