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Per the topic title.

What are some examples of games where you preferred the original release to any remake / remaster / 'director's cut' or re-releases it got later with brief reasons why.

Some notable examples that come off the top of my head:

1. All of MGS 3's re-releases have omitted the very unique Guy Savage mini-game, which makes for a good case that the original PS2 releases are the best.




2. Resident Evil 4's original Gamecube release is vastly superior to the PS2 version on a technical level, the PS2 version cuts out a lot for the visuals, even if it adds a complete second scenario (Separate Ways)




3. Deadly Premonition. I made a separate topic about replaying the game, but in short, all re-releases of the game after the original are terrible ports with more glitches, crashes and terrible performance drops not seen in the original.




4. Until Dawn recently got a remake which launched in a very poor state to say the least. Glitches, sub30 frame rate, notable changes to the games visual makeup that makes it feel like a cheap fan-overhaul in some places with some enhancements like better looking character models. It stings more because the original can be played in a mostly stable high performance on PS5's.

 

[Gaiff]

Ninja Gaiden Black/II: The Thread

 

[Mownoc]

Warcraft 3, Pokémon BD/SP and the infamous Silent Hill HD collection.

 

[Generic]

None. Remastered editions are always better, the only exceptions happen when they are bugged.

 

[Scrawnton]

Final Fantasy VII

 

[Fbh]

Ninja Gaiden Black/II: The Thread

Though technically Sigma 2 is a better example of a worse re-release.

At least Black added back the gore.

 

[Gonzito]

Assassins Creed 3 Remastered was and is a disgrace

 

[adamsapple]

Adding Persona 4 to my list.

Did not like Chie and Teddie's voice recast, the new character Marie is terrible and adds nothing worthwhile to the game, I also didn't like how much the visuals were 'simplified' for Vita and it's a damn shame that all future P4 re-releases have built upon that version.

 

[YCoCg]

Grand Theft Auto: The "Definitive Editions" are trash and sadly the only legit way to play the classics.

 

[Pejo]

It's probably harder to name games that were universally better in a remake.

 

[YCoCg]

MGS Master Collection on Switch, with MGS2 and 3 running in 30fps and being censored.

 

[RoboFu]

All of them

 

[Hohenheim]

Final Fantasy 7 is the first one that comes to mind here.

 

[Gonzito]

All of them

 

[Ulysses 31]

Oops! Misread title!

 

[Nex240]

DMC HD Collection.

 

[willothedog]

Speedball 2, the Amiga version was the goat.

 

[wvnative]

I can't think of any remasters that are better than the original. They always introduce serious issues that the originals didn't have.

 

[kevboard]

Resident Evil 4 is an obvious one.
first of all, the HD rereleases fucked up the analog deadzone and reaction curves.
and then the remake just doesn't play as well due to less precise controls and weird animations that make it feel less responsive to play.


the fucked PSVita versions of Jak and Daxter or God of War were horrible.
terrible performance, and barely a graphics upgrade from the PS2.


Silent Hill 2 & 3 HD obviously lol... like, damn...


XIII is another.
this one was so unfathomably awful that the remake had to be fixed by a different developer and almost basically remastered through a patch after release.
even the "fixed" version however is far worse. both the artstyle is still worse, and the gameplay was ruined by trying to add useless "modern" features like a sprint button and aiming down sights.
this remake was so bad, the sales of the original spiked up when it released, because people wanted to play it again, but didn't want to buy the remake, so they looked for the original on Steam.



The GTA Trilogy. both the intial HD release and the remaster with new assets are worse than the original PS2/Xbox releases.
missing songs, weird glitches etc.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Adding Persona 4 to my list.

Did not like Chie and Teddie's voice recast, the new character Marie is terrible and adds nothing worthwhile to the game, I also didn't like how much the visuals were 'simplified' for Vita and it's a damn shame that all future P4 re-releases have built upon that version.

#notmychie

 

[rofif]

chronicles of riddick

 

[existensmaximum]

Super Mario Bros 3

 

[Parazels]

Games where the Original release was better than the Remake or Remaster

Resident Evil 4's original Gamecube release is vastly superior to the PS2 version

It was a downgraded port, not a remaster.

 

[Boss Mog]

RE4 on the PS2 is not a Remake nor a Remaster, it's just a port and the Gamecube is more powerful than the PS2 so it's no surprise that the port is worse. Same with Persona 4, you're complaining about a port on less capable hardware being inferior.

 

[Soodanim]

Resident Evil 3 Remake took away everything unique or appealing about the original and made it a completely different game. I will take the OG over the remake every time without hesitation.

 

[YCoCg]

Batman Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, puffy face and broken lighting edition.

 

[TheAtomicPile]

The recent Dead Rising remaster seemed like a complete bust:

- Different voice actors
- Cut content
- Fewer zombies on screen

 

[Ulysses 31]

I can't think of any remasters that are better than the original. They always introduce serious issues that the originals didn't have.

Eh, Metroid Prime Remastered I'd hold up as an example of how remasters should be done.

 

[drganon]

The Ezio collection version of ac2 adds these terrible dlc missions as main missions you can't skip.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Eh, Metroid Prime Remastered I'd hold up as an example of how remastered should be done.

Yes, but they messed the snow up a bit, as in snowstorms look a tad worse without as many particles on screen.

 

[Warspite]

Crysis Remastered, this was a remaster of the console version of the game, due to this the remaster on the PC just feels a small bit off. Its like a book that's been translated from to English to Japanese, then that Japanese release has been translated back into English, its all there but something is just a small bit off with everything.

Resident Evil 3, the whole game while absolutely gorgeous just feels a bit small, the original gave a good vibe of a city in chaos, the remake doesn't match that. I always feel this remake was a missed opportunity.

 

[hemo memo]

Silent Hill HD Collection

 

[Muffdraul]

The updated graphics in Halo 1 Anniversary gave me diarrhea.

 

[Ikutachi]

Almost all of them are.

 

[adamsapple]

It was a downgraded port, not a remaster.

What are some examples of games where you preferred the original release to any remake / remaster / 'director's cut' or re-releases

I can only fit so much in the topic title.

 

[LordCBH]

That one Sonic game that got ported to GBA and was basically unplayable

 

[Parazels]

The updated graphics in Halo 1 Anniversary gave me diarrhea.

As a person, who had never played the original game, I preferred old graphics during my first walking through.

 

[Parazels]

Delete

 

[Naked Lunch]

The original release is almost always better.
Its what makes this remake craze an even bigger joke.

 

[adamsapple]

Then your topic is very inconsistent, because you mixed out very different options.

It's a general discussion about any game where anyone liked the original release more than any subsequent re-release.

You're putting more thought in it than it needs bro.

 

[Hugare]

Bioshock Remastered, Assasins Creed Ezio Collection, Batman: Return to Arkham, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Dark Souls Remastered and etc.

Pretty much every "remaster" done by Virtuos. Avoid.

The worse one (excluding the GTAs) was Bioshock.

I'm a huge fan of the original, but they've completely fucked up the graphical effects, textures, sound etc.

Same for Return to Arkham

 

[TheloniusFabdul]

Paper Mario the thousand year door remaster
runs at half the framerate of the original,
and has a bunch of weird censorship.

 

[freemandos]

Crysis 1

Doom 3

 

[Madflavor]

I would say Warcraft III Reforged probably holds the crown for the absolute worst Remaster.

The original release is almost always better.
Its what makes this remake craze an even bigger joke.

I don't find that true at all. I think in gaming there's a good spread of Remakes that are inferior, on par, or superior to their originals.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

RE4 on the PS2 is not a Remake nor a Remaster, it's just a port and the Gamecube is more powerful than the PS2 so it's no surprise that the port is worse. Same with Persona 4, you're complaining about a port on less capable hardware being inferior.

The PS Vita was more powerful than the PS2. Using TFLOPS as shorthand, the PS2 had 6.2 and the Vita had 20-25.

The updated graphics in Halo 1 Anniversary gave me diarrhea

Yeah, to me, the original Xbox Halo graphics--or more specifically, their art design--look better to my eyes today than the 360-era Anniversary graphics.

 

[Salmon Snake]

Final Fantasy VII

The post of the thread. Case closed.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I loathe DMC: Devil May Cry as it puts the degenerate elements of punk front and center instead of living up to franchise standards. I abhor Resident Evil Remake due to flat voice acting, crimson punishment for not engaging with burning inventory management, shotgun blasts that fail to decapitate, and unkillable nuisance. I side eye Ninja Gaiden II Sigma and (NGII) Black because they dumbed down projectile system, failed to fully transfer properties of attacks, and made environment less interactive and challenging. I do not much care for Golden version of Persona 4 either though I do enjoy the added winter excursion.

I still feel like the odd man out because I would rather play Resident Evil 3 Remake, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (1), and GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition over the originals. The original RE3 is a boring backtracking-filled slog compared to the polished action-packed extravaganza of the remake. NG Sigma has better water acrobatics mechanics, jump shot for bow, and a bunch of new unlockable equipment. The updated GTATDE has non-first person camera on foot for 3/VC, greatly improved aiming, improved vehicle handling, and better camera placement for vehicles. I also find the multi-colored peds cool as too frequently in the original there would be 3 of the same ped on screen. While the missing music is regrettable I am able to play it with a background app in all its glory even during ambulance, vigilante, and firefighter missions which had no access to radio stations in the original.

 

[MagnesD3]

Demons Souls, Super Mario 64, and Ocarina of Time come to mind.

 

[CLW]

 

[BennyBlanco]

Demons Souls, Super Mario 64, and Ocarina of Time come to mind.

Yeah that DS version of m64 stinks.