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Games where the Original release was better than the Remake or Remaster
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The port of sonic 1 that runs at like 15 fps, has broken physics and screeching music, that one is a special kind of bad
I enjoyed it for what it was but it just doesnt hold a candle to the OG.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hawk The Slayer
Member
RE1 to RE3
RE1 had that funny charm that the RE1 Remake lacked but I'll give both of them a 10/10
RE2 is the best RE game still with the A/B having no repeat bosses so it really felt like Claire and Leon were adventuring at the same time instead of having repeat bosses like the remake. RE2 is a perfect 10/10 while RE2 Remake is a 9/10.
RE3 is also a 10/10 having more areas and the choice system which spiced things up a little. RE3 Remake is a 9/10. Had they include more areas like the original and expanded on the city with a revamped Gravedigger, it could have easily been the best RE game ever.
Ratchet and Clank 1 to 3 cause I heard the HD remaster collection had bugs, haven't tried the remasters though.
Majora's Mask cause of the Deku hop and some other things I heard that I forgot. Haven't tried the remaster.
RE1 had that funny charm that the RE1 Remake lacked but I'll give both of them a 10/10
RE2 is the best RE game still with the A/B having no repeat bosses so it really felt like Claire and Leon were adventuring at the same time instead of having repeat bosses like the remake. RE2 is a perfect 10/10 while RE2 Remake is a 9/10.
RE3 is also a 10/10 having more areas and the choice system which spiced things up a little. RE3 Remake is a 9/10. Had they include more areas like the original and expanded on the city with a revamped Gravedigger, it could have easily been the best RE game ever.
Ratchet and Clank 1 to 3 cause I heard the HD remaster collection had bugs, haven't tried the remasters though.
Majora's Mask cause of the Deku hop and some other things I heard that I forgot. Haven't tried the remaster.
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Horseganador
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The original PSX version is much better.
JimmyRustler
Member
Alan Wake says no. The Remaster was clearly worse than the original and it’s not even a debate.
JimmyRustler
Member
And this, x1000. Man, I hate this game so much.
The original PSX version is much better.
HRK69
Gold Member
Oh, I read past the title. I just also read between the lines. This thread is basically a thinly veiled support group for people who think ‘remakes bad’ by default. Sure, you’re technically asking for ‘examples’ of originals that were better, but let’s not pretend this isn’t the same tired discourse that happens every time a remake or remaster existsIt works better for the discourse if you read past the topic title
Obviously, bad technical remakes are bad. No one’s out here defending buggy, broken messes. But let’s be real, that’s not what most of you are actually mad about. Half the time, it’s not about ‘bad remakes,’ it’s just about change in general
Like clockwork, people come crawling out to complain that their precious games all were perfect. You can dress it up as ‘discussion’ all you want, but it’s the same old song and dance: Nostalgia is king
So yeah, I read past the title. And I see this for exactly what it is
Emedan
Member
Wait what, what is this? I don't recall this at all, I've finished the game 25 times.. am I retarded?
Codes 208
Member
The original Majoras Mask is better than the 3ds remake.
Unlike with OoT3D which was mainly a 1;1 remake, they implemented changes to majoras mask like incorporating weaknesses in the bosses and heavily nerfing movement speed for the goron roll and zora dash which ultimately made the remake feel more like a demake
Unlike with OoT3D which was mainly a 1;1 remake, they implemented changes to majoras mask like incorporating weaknesses in the bosses and heavily nerfing movement speed for the goron roll and zora dash which ultimately made the remake feel more like a demake
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
When you're put in the cell after the torture scene, save the game, quit and reload. You need to do this while in the cell and before the escape sequence.
Snake has a 'nightmare' which is that game, called Guy Savage. It was rumored to be a slice of a hack and slash game Konami was developing at the time. It's Snake's "nightmare" and then he wakes up after a bit.
Well you've already lost me at this point. I can't dictate everyone else's posts but all the examples I've posted are later releases that had notable differences / omissions to their original release, and not for the better.
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swaffles23
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Shadow of the Colossus.
The remake is good but the original has an incredible atmosphere that the remake lost plus the art style is more in line with Fumito Ueda's other games.
The remake is good but the original has an incredible atmosphere that the remake lost plus the art style is more in line with Fumito Ueda's other games.
Kings Field
Member
I mean, I guess Demons Souls was better but not by much. I think if you played the OG at the time it is more nostalgic and had better aesthetics but remake is so clean and nice too.
diffusionx
Gold Member
The sad truth is that the old version is better most of the time, and even remakes that are actually really good often sacrifice something from old versions, like RE2 or P3R.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
What a disgrace OOT 3D was. They completely botched not just the art style but also all the atmosphere of the original game.
Terrible.
FingerBang
Member
Got to disagree with this one, at least after playing it fully patched on PS5 Pro. Though unnecessary, I really liked the changes and the extra sections. I understand the original is still great, but would recommend the latter if someone were to play it for the first time (but not at full price)
fart town usa
Member
Yea, I don't like the SNES version or the GBA version as much as NES. Just feels off.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Tales of Symphonia, gamecube version
Oof, yeah, one of the top examples of bad remasters.
Don't have a Pro but the experience was pretty sub-par on the base PS5 at launch. Not just worse performance, but any time the game used video files (intro etc), it came with the worst stuttering ever.
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Unknown?
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Good point. In that case both Sonic Adventure games sucked on GameCube compared to DreamCast. Thankfully modders have fixed what was broken.
kevboard
Member
Wind Waker GC is the best. The bloom bonanza of the Wii U version doesn't bring out the wonderful celshading like a true remaster would have.
the Wii U version has multiple gameplay improvements that fix nearly every design flaw of the original.
so it might be visually divisive, but it is by far the better game otherwise.
better inventory management and better sea navigation thanks to the touch screen, better first person controls thanks to gyro and being able to move, it has the fast sail, and it has the shortened triforce quest at the end
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Never played it myself, how was it broken?
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Damigos
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Why Demons Souls ?
TheloniusFabdul
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Plus the new lighting makes the characters look really weird at times.Wind Waker GC is the best. The bloom bonanza of the Wii U version doesn't bring out the wonderful celshading like a true remaster would have.
Unknown?
Member
Transparencies were broken, lighting engine was not present, etc. Because transparencies were borked, some cut scenes made no sense.
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March Climber
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If only this were a different video game. Some of the choreography in this remake is so damn cool but it was done for the wrong game.
Bridges
Member
Dead Rising Deluxe Remaster is two steps forward and three steps back from the original.
The voice acting, reactivity, art direction, balance and overall charm is worse than the original, before even getting into the controversies of cut mechanics and lines of dialogue. Still fun but lacking, and there are some additions that are welcome so it's not universally worse. Still, the original is the better game in my view.
The voice acting, reactivity, art direction, balance and overall charm is worse than the original, before even getting into the controversies of cut mechanics and lines of dialogue. Still fun but lacking, and there are some additions that are welcome so it's not universally worse. Still, the original is the better game in my view.
Syphon Filter
Member
Original is always better since it was created the way it was meant to be.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You must not play many remakes.
poodaddy
Member
They also didn't add the dynamic lighting from the shots, which was a real bummer in my opinion. I still think the remake is the better version by far, but it's a shame it wasn't clearly better in every category.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yeah, it is the lack of proper dynamic lighting from weapons that destroyed GLQuake for me… dynamic lighting adds a lot to the atmosphere even lighting from muzzle flashes and the like.
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poodaddy
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Yeah same. I kinda think destroys is a strong term, but I definitely mostly agree with you though, dynamic lighting from the shots adds tons of atmosphere to any fps, and removing it is damn near a sin. I know it won't happen, but damn it'd be great if they added the dynamic lighting back to Prime remake for the Switch 2, but that's silly thinking on my part and it definitely isn't Nintendo's m.o. to add free improvements to older games, so I'm not holding my breath.
Nickolaidas
Member
This entire thread is a shit take.
Sevyne
Member
The lighting not being present in the remake bothered me less than it being missing in Trilogy. That one made no sense at all. Though I was hoping it would be back, but remake is still really good regardless.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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IndeedAssassins Creed 3 Remastered was and is a disgrace
The more remasters I play the more I realize how much worse they tend to be than the originals. Look at the recent Lollipop Chainsaw remaster ....awful!
Why is it that devs these days just "have" to change aspects of a remaster that either didn't need to be changed or people didn't ask for to be changed?
It's like they just can't help themselves. Oh and Until Dawn Remake really sucks with how they couldn't pay for a SINGLE music license from the original! Kiss my ass devs.
ResilientBanana
Member
Most remasters seems like someone went to their boss and was like
"hey we got it running!"
"Cool, ship it"
"But we're not do...."
"SHIP. IT."
"....ok, yes they"
"hey we got it running!"
"Cool, ship it"
"But we're not do...."
"SHIP. IT."
"....ok, yes they"
rabbity-thing
Member
You posted a gif to prove yourself wrong?
The original PSX version is much better.
Redeeming Casualty
Neo Member
I feel like I might be the only human on this planet that likes this remake over the original. I respect the original but man that gamecube remake in my opinion is the bees knees. I loved everything about that game. Probably my most played Metal Gear game besides 2.
The original PSX version is much better.
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DownLikeBCPowder
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Easily the worst offender in my mind.
What's wrong with someone preferring the original, exactly? You sound personally offended, almost as if it's not possible for someone to enjoy an original more and any reason they might give would be deemed immaterial to you.
I don't necessarily like it more, but I also liked it. I love the gameplay enhancements, but really the original experience is just so classic. I do think Twin Snakes is overhated though in general, but they did go a bit far with the Matrix scenes.
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kiphalfton
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Oh, the irony.