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[Pejo]

>Cloud Retainer's Beetle Battle

Maybe not popular opinion, but I like the beetle battles and the elemental Breakout minigames, they're two of my favorite types. Wish Breakout would come back, we only got it that one time for the Inazuma youkai festival.

I also read somewhere else that we're getting the musical rhythm game permanently added in this patch, which was fun to play from time to time. They need to include more character themes though, the ambient music just isn't fun for that game mode.

Still waiting for this one, one of my all time favorite themes in the game:

 

[ap_puff]

Maybe not popular opinion, but I like the beetle battles and the elemental Breakout minigames, they're two of my favorite types. Wish Breakout would come back, we only got it that one time for the Inazuma youkai festival.

I also read somewhere else that we're getting the musical rhythm game permanently added in this patch, which was fun to play from time to time. They need to include more character themes though, the ambient music just isn't fun for that game mode.

Still waiting for this one, one of my all time favorite themes in the game:

Oh god i forgot all about the breakout minigame, yeah that one was pretty good. My favorite minigames are the puzzle ones with gears, and the bomberman one

 

[Icymanipulator]

Mav vs. enemies:


So the skill looks like those timed sun bursts that come down vertically, so it is an automatic thing, not coordinated? I can't tell because the leaker never stops attacking, but you can clearly see like bolts of fire shooting down separate from the attacks.

Honestly this kinda looks like ass to control.

This is looks terrible and ridiculous. My hype levels for Mav have sunk like a rock in water.
Very disappointed. lol wow

 

[Pejo]

This is looks terrible and ridiculous. My hype levels for Mav have sunk like a rock in water.
Very disappointed. lol wow

Leakers are notoriously bad at the game, so I'll wait to see some more footage, but yea it's not looking great. After the rest of the Natlan shit, I don't mind so much that the bike is in the game, but being used this way in combat, it's just.. i dunno. I wouldn't mind if it was just used for traversal and then 'phantom' bikes wooshed in to deliver hits during her combo while the skill was active and while she was attacking with her sword, but this....

I saw someone else sum it up pretty good, I wanted to play as Mavuika, not as her motorcycle.

*edit*

We're Wave Race 64 now.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I saw someone else sum it up pretty good, I wanted to play as Mavuika, not as her motorcycle.

So much this

 

[ap_puff]

Leakers are notoriously bad at the game, so I'll wait to see some more footage, but yea it's not looking great. After the rest of the Natlan shit, I don't mind so much that the bike is in the game, but being used this way in combat, it's just.. i dunno. I wouldn't mind if it was just used for traversal and then 'phantom' bikes wooshed in to deliver hits during her combo while the skill was active and while she was attacking with her sword, but this....

I saw someone else sum it up pretty good, I wanted to play as Mavuika, not as her motorcycle.

*edit*

We're Wave Race 64 now.

Instant pull

Also it feels like they lifted Mavuika's kit from the recent ZZZ boss's moveset

Which is whatever, I'm not a fan of it in genshin but i guess i dont really care any more

 

[Pejo]

Also it feels like they lifted Mavuika's kit from the recent ZZZ boss's moveset

I wanted playable Pompey, but not like this...

 

[ap_puff]

I wanted playable Pompey, but not like this...

I wanted playable Pompey with no bike. Just a badass using his fists and stomping on a mf. We were this close to greatness

 

[Icymanipulator]

Well I had a blue wish from leveling Ororon turn into Chev, that’s C6 for her!

 

[deanote666]

For those pulling Chasca, you'll want her in your roster before you start exploring the northern part of the new area. She makes things easier if you don't have a flying dino nearby.

 

[jonnyXx]

So her skill IS that raining fire bolt and it procs every 2 seconds. No ICD.

Spoiler

 

[Pejo]

So her skill IS that raining fire bolt and it procs every 2 seconds. No ICD.

Spoiler

Wonder what the range is, because some of the time it didn't activate in that video for particular enemies, sometimes it was late? I dunno, these are guys running private server so it could just be a fuckup in their code.

Fun reference:

Spoiler

 

[HNBas]

Wonder what the range is, because some of the time it didn't activate in that video for particular enemies, sometimes it was late? I dunno, these are guys running private server so it could just be a fuckup in their code.

Fun reference:

link

Spoiler

i think its probably just a server side issue. private server setups can be hit or miss sometimes

 

[SSfox]

Hi guys is there a way to enter codes in Hoyo app?

 

[deanote666]

Hi guys is there a way to enter codes in Hoyo app?

In genshin: settings - account.

 

[jonnyXx]

Here's a C0R1 Team showcase

Spoiler

Nice damage, with cracked artifacts and all characters tripple crowned tho.
Didn't swirl pyro

 

[Pejo]

Here's a C0R1 Team showcase

Spoiler

Nice damage, with cracked artifacts and all characters tripple crowned tho.
Didn't swirl pyro

Holy shit leakers, never change. Great at manipulating the code from beta dumps, absolutely terrible at playing the game and making team comps.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

loaded it up on xcloud just for the rewards, also got an easy 9 achievements for just logging in lol.

 

[Pejo]

loaded it up on xcloud just for the rewards, also got an easy 9 achievements for just logging in lol.

What do you mean?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

What do you mean?

what part are you confused about?

 

[Pejo]

what part are you confused about?

What what and what?

Is Genshin out on xbox or something? Also what are the rewards?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

What what and what?

Is Genshin out on xbox or something? Also what are the rewards?

yes it's now available on xbox, the reward is a glider, and game pass subs get some more resources.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Did Chasca's quest last night to get the ascension materials. If you guys don't like the bike, wait 'till you see actual jet packs.

The quest itself was pretty good, introducing Chasca and her tribe but again very heavy on yapping. For the first time I used the Focused Experience Mode, and I'm pleasantly surprised by it. Not sure how new this feature is, but man I should've used it when I just wanted Xilonen's materials. I don't feel like I ruined the experience at all, the story is entirely self contained.

By the way, they're predicting Arle will get her rerun during 5.3 with Chev, Rosaria and Bennett as 4-stars.

 

[Pejo]

yes it's now available on xbox, the reward is a glider, and game pass subs get some more resources.

Looks like you have to be subbed to Gamepass Ultimate to play the game on xcloud, so guess I'll just wait for the glider to be available for everyone next patch. Thanks for the info at any rate.

 

[Pejo]

One of the annoying type web events is back, I actually managed to win some primogems this time.

Roaming Through the Realm of Saurians: A Wondrous Natlan Odyssey

Take part in the Saurian Hatchling rearing event to obtain Primogems and other rewards!

act.hoyolab.com

*edit*

Pyro Traveler C6 with imbue. At least the sfx look cool I guess?

 

[Peroroncino]

traveler is such a massive fucking loser goddamn xD

 

[InterMusketeer]

Kinda cool that Pyro traveler might be on-fieldable. I'm not really interested in trying it myself, but it's still nice to have. The supportive capabilities are a lot more important though. A character with lots of off-field Pyro app would be very useful, but I doubt they'd make a kit like that F2P.

One of the annoying type web events is back, I actually managed to win some primogems this time.

What a clusterfuck this is. Are you supposed to use your coins to draw, or exchange for primogems in the store?

 

[ap_puff]

why the fuck can't they actually make traveler good for once, it's not like it would decrease sales

 

[SSfox]

Does anyone know how to play the card Game in auto mode?

 

[Peroroncino]

why the fuck can't they actually make traveler good for once, it's not like it would decrease sales

Trailblazer from Star Rail is still meta since 2.0 update introduced a new path (element) for him, and only now we're getting a premium 5* unit that kiiinda replaces him (but not really, it's more of a sidegrade since in 3.0 he's getting a new path). I'm fucking baffled by how different the approaches are between those 2, it's the same company ffs.

 

[Pejo]

Kinda cool that Pyro traveler might be on-fieldable. I'm not really interested in trying it myself, but it's still nice to have. The supportive capabilities are a lot more important though. A character with lots of off-field Pyro app would be very useful, but I doubt they'd make a kit like that F2P.

I'm still reeling from the leakers saying that Traveler was going to be "Harmony main character" good from Star Rail. This doesn't seem like it could be further from the truth. Based on the spreadsheeters using the current leaks, Pyro traveler is only slightly more useful than Hydro Traveler, which is probably the worst character in the whole game. I still use the Dendro version sometimes in my Nilou party, but damn... all this waiting for essentially garbage.

What a clusterfuck this is. Are you supposed to use your coins to draw, or exchange for primogems in the store?

I just clicked all the things for the missions then used my points on rolls in the gacha, that's how I got primos. If you want to wait and save for the purchase 300 point ones, they'll probably be gone instantly when 300 points are attainable, like they usually are. It's really not worth even doing this type of event, but I did it anyways.

 

[ap_puff]

I'm still reeling from the leakers saying that Traveler was going to be "Harmony main character" good from Star Rail. This doesn't seem like it could be further from the truth. Based on the spreadsheeters using the current leaks, Pyro traveler is only slightly more useful than Hydro Traveler, which is probably the worst character in the whole game. I still use the Dendro version sometimes in my Nilou party, but damn... all this waiting for essentially garbage.

I just clicked all the things for the missions then used my points on rolls in the gacha, that's how I got primos. If you want to wait and save for the purchase 300 point ones, they'll probably be gone instantly when 300 points are attainable, like they usually are. It's really not worth even doing this type of event, but I did it anyways.

The thing is, pyro traveler is supposed to have a secondary kit that only activates for the story battle which looks pretty good. I just don't know why they didn't let her have it all the time.

 

[Icymanipulator]

It’s pretty lame that they won’t throw f2p and low spenders a bone by making pyro traveler good

Edit
Ororon is really nice for overworld, he’s a good stop gap between cloud retainer and Yelans cooldowns, will likely fit him in for exploration, and being able to switch in midair after using CRs skill is icing on the cake.

 

[Pejo]

Mav and Citlali's signatures

Bonus - what Himeko's best weapon looked like in Honkai Impact 3. Similar design principles but obviously they went with more of a sun-themed central/south american design for Mavuika. Also it's much more detailed in Genshin because the game/engine is just better at this point.

 

[jonnyXx]

Mav and Citlali's signatures

It looks great and it's a good general use weapon unlike just about every other signature released recently. No special conditions that only Mavuika can take advantage of.
Don't think I'll have enough wishes to go for it sadly.

 

[Pejo]

It looks great and it's a good general use weapon unlike just about every other signature released recently. No special conditions that only Mavuika can take advantage of.
Don't think I'll have enough wishes to go for it sadly.

I'm still trying to figure out where to put my pulls. I'm going to start with C2 Mav, then decide if I like her kit enough to go higher or get the weapon. If she wouldn't be so motorcycle focused, I was fully prepared to whale a bit for C6, but if it's super clunky/unfun to play in battle, I might just stop there for now. Obviously for traversal she's gonna be amazing, but I'm not gonna roll constellations just for a little extra zoom zoom time.

I was thinking about how I'd make her kit and still keep the motorcycle theme over the past few days.

I think if they didn't want to change too much from the current iteration, they could leave the skill activations the same. Tap to do off-field version, hold for traversal/motorcycle mode. Difference being that she no longer attacks with the motorcycle in Traversal mode, like her current iteration. If you want to switch to infused DPS mode, you would just use a charge attack (hold attack) while in Traversal mode, which would kick of her animation where she jumps off of the bike, but she actually stays off of it, and imbues her claymore for 12-18 seconds. Then you can fight like a normal character using cool animations and nice damage.

Then, to not waste the motorcycle attack animations they clearly spent some time on, when she uses her burst, she stays on the motorcycle and attacks just like the current iteration. More damage, but can only do it for a limited time. Basically makes that part of the kit the burst damage focus instead of the sustained version of an on-fielder that the skill would replace. I think that would make a lot of the current naysayers happy because you actually get to use Mav for on-field damage without the damn bike, but it still gives you use of the bike attacks for short windows.

Too bad there's no way HoYo will ever listen and the only changes I think we'll see between now and launch are nerfs of her damage% or uptime.

One cool bit of detail I saw is that during certain animation frames on her bike, it actually does take the form of a dragon.

Spoiler

Also, this was a fun Furina mod I saw. I don't use cosplay mods but they actually nailed her look, for a Genshin model.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Would have been cool if her bike was just a flaming dragon or a phoenix or something, get all the traversal benefits without the weirdness of a motorcycle being in the game.

I mean, it’s even dumb in DMC5, in fact I can’t think of a single time a bike being used as weapon had actually worked and not looked incredibly strange.

 

[deanote666]

Spoiler: Bronzelock local legend

You can use the fire bird and water dino to help expose Bronzelock to 4 different elements for the 3rd achivement. Just don't stay in the dinos for too long or you'll lose agro and the fight will reset.

 

[deanote666]

Would have been cool if her bike was just a flaming dragon or a phoenix or something, get all the traversal benefits without the weirdness of a motorcycle being in the game.

I mean, it’s even dumb in DMC5, in fact I can’t think of a single time a bike being used as weapon had actually worked and not looked incredibly strange.

To be fair, motorcycles probably k1ll hundreds of Americans every year. Sounds pretty de@dly to me.

 

[jonnyXx]

I think if they didn't want to change too much from the current iteration, they could leave the skill activations the same. Tap to do off-field version, hold for traversal/motorcycle mode. Difference being that she no longer attacks with the motorcycle in Traversal mode, like her current iteration. If you want to switch to infused DPS mode, you would just use a charge attack (hold attack) while in Traversal mode, which would kick of her animation where she jumps off of the bike, but she actually stays off of it, and imbues her claymore for 12-18 seconds. Then you can fight like a normal character using cool animations and nice damage.

Then, to not waste the motorcycle attack animations they clearly spent some time on, when she uses her burst, she stays on the motorcycle and attacks just like the current iteration. More damage, but can only do it for a limited time. Basically makes that part of the kit the burst damage focus instead of the sustained version of an on-fielder that the skill would replace. I think that would make a lot of the current naysayers happy because you actually get to use Mav for on-field damage without the damn bike, but it still gives you use of the bike attacks for short windows.

This is exactly what I was thinking, that it would be the best of both worlds to only have her attack on the bike during the 7 second burst uptime. Her characterization, her design, and her weapon are all begging for her to be used as a brawler with some badass animations in battle.

And about not wasting bike attack animations well in her current iteration her bike charge attacks do stupid damage so her optimal playstyle is to just charge attack on the bike which locks her into the doing donuts animation.

 

[Pejo]

This is exactly what I was thinking, that it would be the best of both worlds to only have her attack on the bike during the 7 second burst uptime. Her characterization, her design, and her weapon are all begging for her to be used as a brawler with some badass animations in battle.

Yep my thoughts exactly. Every archon quest where she's been featured, she's doing some badass fighting, and yet we have nothing in her kit to denote that.

And about not wasting bike attack animations well in her current iteration her bike charge attacks do stupid damage so her optimal playstyle is to just charge attack on the bike which locks her into the doing donuts animation.

This gif absolutely killed me.

 

[ap_puff]

i just realized that the gameplay leak of mavuika riding on water is at c6 and she can only do it half as long at c0, that makes her significantly less appealing tbh

 

[InterMusketeer]

i just realized that the gameplay leak of mavuika riding on water is at c6 and she can only do it half as long at c0, that makes her significantly less appealing tbh

Sounds like the traversal stuff isn't really viable, but rather a neat bonus that might allow you to complete some puzzels and such.

Mavuika is also somewhat reliant on Xilonen, since she can very quickly spend all her Night Soul points, which Mavuika needs for her burst. She's gonna feel way less comfy without her. It's gonna be difficult to find artifacts for her without ER. Still not sure what set she needs anyway, since her burst stops her from using Night Soul points, so she can't use the Codex set. Any news yet about new artifact sets? You'd expect those by now.

 

[Pejo]

Sounds like the traversal stuff isn't really viable, but rather a neat bonus that might allow you to complete some puzzels and such.

Mavuika is also somewhat reliant on Xilonen, since she can very quickly spend all her Night Soul points, which Mavuika needs for her burst. She's gonna feel way less comfy without her. It's gonna be difficult to find artifacts for her without ER. Still not sure what set she needs anyway, since her burst stops her from using Night Soul points, so she can't use the Codex set. Any news yet about new artifact sets? You'd expect those by now.

Last I read, spreadsheeters are planning 2x 2PC attack sets out of existing artifacts. I haven't seen any leaks about new sets yet. Frankly I'm surprised if she doesn't have a set catered to her kit at release.

Also even with her crazy multipliers in a team that focuses on all of her kit, she still does less damage per rotation than a Neuvi hypercarry team, which was a bummer for me personally to read.

I'm planning on trying Mav/Citlali/Yelan/Xilonen. Should be pretty ridiculous, regardless of meta.

 

[ap_puff]

Sounds like the traversal stuff isn't really viable, but rather a neat bonus that might allow you to complete some puzzels and such.

Mavuika is also somewhat reliant on Xilonen, since she can very quickly spend all her Night Soul points, which Mavuika needs for her burst. She's gonna feel way less comfy without her. It's gonna be difficult to find artifacts for her without ER. Still not sure what set she needs anyway, since her burst stops her from using Night Soul points, so she can't use the Codex set. Any news yet about new artifact sets? You'd expect those by now.

I have xilonen so that's not a problem, but I'm really only interested in the QoL aspects of her kit. I'm perfectly happy with the pyro characters I have already in terms of gameplay

 

[Icymanipulator]

I can’t believe it but I may not pull for Mav.

I’ll wait until she releases and play her trial to make my final decision, but man, I’ve been saving for so long and I’m just not liking what I’ve been reading. I’m almost at 16k gems + some pink wishes, and wondering if just continuing to save might not be the better option. Only time will tell.
I’ve been doing fine without a pyro DPS (well I have Diluc lol)

 

[jonnyXx]

Sounds like the traversal stuff isn't really viable, but rather a neat bonus that might allow you to complete some puzzels and such.

Mavuika is also somewhat reliant on Xilonen, since she can very quickly spend all her Night Soul points, which Mavuika needs for her burst. She's gonna feel way less comfy without her. It's gonna be difficult to find artifacts for her without ER. Still not sure what set she needs anyway, since her burst stops her from using Night Soul points, so she can't use the Codex set. Any news yet about new artifact sets? You'd expect those by now.

There was this a few days ago.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Last I read, spreadsheeters are planning 2x 2PC attack sets out of existing artifacts. I haven't seen any leaks about new sets yet. Frankly I'm surprised if she doesn't have a set catered to her kit at release.

2x ATK? That's just sad. Usually the Archon wants one of the first sets released. Emblem, Deepwood, Golden Troupe... I imagine they'll just change her burst to give her temporary unlimited points so she can use Codex. If they don't want to do new sets at least.

Also even with her crazy multipliers in a team that focuses on all of her kit, she still does less damage per rotation than a Neuvi hypercarry team, which was a bummer for me personally to read.

Neuvi was a mistake. Does she at least outperform Arle?

I'm planning on trying Mav/Citlali/Yelan/Xilonen. Should be pretty ridiculous, regardless of meta.

Theorycrafters seem very hyped for Citlali. I feel like she needs her own artifact set too though. Scroll is very strong on her obviously, but Xilonen would already run that so the benefits would be greatly diminished.

I'm guessing you just don't like Furina instead of Yelan? Would probably make for a slightly stronger team, and you have two supports anyway.

 

[ap_puff]

2x ATK? That's just sad. Usually the Archon wants one of the first sets released. Emblem, Deepwood, Golden Troupe... I imagine they'll just change her burst to give her temporary unlimited points so she can use Codex. If they don't want to do new sets at least.

Neuvi was a mistake. Does she at least outperform Arle?


Theorycrafters seem very hyped for Citlali. I feel like she needs her own artifact set too though. Scroll is very strong on her obviously, but Xilonen would already run that so the benefits would be greatly diminished.

I'm guessing you just don't like Furina instead of Yelan? Would probably make for a slightly stronger team, and you have two supports anyway.

according to jstern all of mavuika's power is in her constellations. he calc'ed her to be better than c6 Arlecchino at c2 and her c2 specifically gives her a ridiculous amount of damage. If it's true and not changed I'm pretty disappointed in the way they're balancing these kits to incentivize ultra pulling.

 

[InterMusketeer]

according to jstern all of mavuika's power is in her constellations. he calc'ed her to be better than c6 Arlecchino at c2 and her c2 specifically gives her a ridiculous amount of damage. If it's true and not changed I'm pretty disappointed in the way they're balancing these kits to incentivize ultra pulling.

Better at C2? That sounds excessively overpowered. I don't believe they'd actually put that in the game.