rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
8k, ultra wide, most probably lower input lag, whatever controller you want, cheaper price, free online, mods...
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
I use Playnite for my console-replacement UI/navigation, and it works great and is more robust than Steam Big Picture, but...
There's wayyyyyyy more setup in getting Steam Big Picture going (particularly if you have games from other storefronts or use emulators) than simply turning on a console and signing in.
Again, it's great and I love that PC offers the flexibility to get something close to a console like experience, but many consumers aren't going to want to spend time messing around getting stuff like that going.
Kataploom
Gold Member
That's only if you use different storefronts.
I do, but I've discovered the convenience of staying on Steam just for SBP. It's pretty much plug and play to me. Turn PC on, pick a game, close the game, turn computer off with the controller as you'd do in a console.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Ever since I bought my PS5 I pretty much abandoned my PC, last week though I dust it off to play Starfield. I hocked on my new 65'' TV for the first time and start playing. It felt like home, Starfield though started slow and after 3 hours I got bored and fired Baldur's Gate 3. Had a blast, I've played with game pad. I thought the game would be unplayable without KB/M but Larian did an amazing job translating the game to a controller, KB/M is obviously better but playing the game on a couch totally worth it.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Yeah I actually enjoy tinkering like that but I can respect people who have lives and just want to play games
KormaChameleon
Member
Preach!
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
You can play on a couch, mattress or whatever with kb/m too.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Perfection.gifWalking out of his liquid cooling solution for the 4090, and unto the NeoGAF to post.
Crayon
Member
Love pc gaming but the gpu prices really put a damper on things. My ps5 becomes the default for the few games with really heavy graphics. There are two few of them to justify the gpu upgrade I would have to make to really beat up the console. To get 60fps in starfield, for example.
So the better graphics and performance isn't really a thing for me, and pc is still home base. The selection, prices, steam platform (I hardly use anything else), mods, peripheal support, etc etc etc.
So the better graphics and performance isn't really a thing for me, and pc is still home base. The selection, prices, steam platform (I hardly use anything else), mods, peripheal support, etc etc etc.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
I know, I just don't find it as confortable.
BossLackey
Gold Member
Bro. You just wanna argue.
I already primarily play on PC. You don't have to sell me. It's better. I fucking get it.
That doesn't mean consoles don't have their place, even if you DO have a PC.
Christ.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I am not selling anything.
Tarin02543
Member
Infinite power!
Bkdk
Member
As much as I am disappointed about starfield's vanilla release, august is one of the best month for me still, will likely be playing bg3 and starfield for years to come due to them promising robust mod support. Phantom liberty is in the corner as well and modded playthroughs of these 3 titles will take up thousands hours of playtime for me in the future eventually.
Puscifer
Member
As someone who's put a collective 150+ hours into Returnal on PC and PS5 I can honestly say that it's a gimmick lol. I even turn off haptics while I'm playing my game because, well, I'm trying to PLAY A GAME. Stuff like CoD having dynamic haptics is ridiculous because you literally end up dying fighting with the controller, or fucking up Nero combos in DmC 5 or trying to switch modes on the fly in Returnal. I think the only game where I didn't find the haptics a burden was RE Village because it's a slower paced game, anything that requires any real attention from the player is just silly to have on.
Not most probably, but DEFINITELY better input lag. Fighting Games eventually end up better on PC in the long run because anyone still playing Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc after a year is in it for the long haul. Dragon Ball Fighterz is the shit running at a native 4K
StereoVsn
Gold Member
With emulation, that library stretches many console generations as well!
But yeah, without PC how could I play From games on easy mode!?
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yeah, I mean realistically speaking that's a LOT of gameplay especially as mods get better for Starfield and Cyberpunk.
Plus City Skyline 2 is coming as well. And u haven't even gotten to Jagged Alliance 3.
manfestival
Member
pc gaming is overrated. I have learned that console gaming is far superior and more convenient.
Pegasus Actual
Member
Hohenheim
Member
Prefer PC for every game that's not a couch co-op thing.
And the indie stuff I used to play on Switch, I now play on the Rog Ally.
Having a portable PC like that as a suppliment for my desktop have basically retired the Switch for me after the last Zelda.
PS5 is mostly used for Netflix etc, with a exclusive now and then (last one was FF16)
And the indie stuff I used to play on Switch, I now play on the Rog Ally.
Having a portable PC like that as a suppliment for my desktop have basically retired the Switch for me after the last Zelda.
PS5 is mostly used for Netflix etc, with a exclusive now and then (last one was FF16)
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You play forspoken so you know good games.Couldn't agree more. I switched back to PC gaming about 3 months ago and I will never go back.
I've configured my PC to be a console-like experience, so when I turn it on I'm greeted with a really nice console-friendly UI:
Super couch friendly setup. I can turn on my PC with my Xbox controller, it loads up directly to this UI, and off I go.
It's still a trip to see PS5, Xbox, and Switch games all under one UI. Love it.
But you also play madden and made your pc look like a fake console…. Which at this point you wasted 2k dollars.
But I will cut you some slack. Good job.
MaestroMike
Gold Member
didn't some guy here spend $20 gs on his set up ??? im fine with playing games at 30 fps gaming is a hobby
kurisu_1974
Member
Not really tho. Everything before the 32-bit era needs to be emulated either way.
Elysium44
Banned
PC gaming where companies like CDPR change the game you bought afterwards so it no longer runs very well. They did it with Witcher 3 and it looks like they're doing it again.
www.neogaf.com
Console gamers just don't have to worry about any of this stuff. You install the game and play it and that's all you ever have to do.
Another moan... I use an Xbox pad with my PC and use the official Microsoft bluetooth adapter, this works well most of the time but sometimes it just loses connection and requires you to actually remove the USB device physically from the computer and reinsert it, then it works. Even a reboot doesn't fix it, you have to remove it physically. This is a bug that affects a lot of people and Microsoft have never fixed it in all the years it's existed. It's a pain as my PC is under my desk and it's awkward to get to. I have to do this every so often.
CDPR dev warns players new Cyberpunk 2077 patch (and expansion) might make your PC overheat, urges for you to check before playing!
I recently ran a full virus scan here in Brazil and my 10900K reached T junction temperatures. Stay cool while exploring NC, folks! EDIT: New tweet from the same dev regarding the original tweet Poor guy must have been scolded by some useless middle manager for speaking out of turn.
Console gamers just don't have to worry about any of this stuff. You install the game and play it and that's all you ever have to do.
Another moan... I use an Xbox pad with my PC and use the official Microsoft bluetooth adapter, this works well most of the time but sometimes it just loses connection and requires you to actually remove the USB device physically from the computer and reinsert it, then it works. Even a reboot doesn't fix it, you have to remove it physically. This is a bug that affects a lot of people and Microsoft have never fixed it in all the years it's existed. It's a pain as my PC is under my desk and it's awkward to get to. I have to do this every so often.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yep. If I buy any console it’ll be the Switch 2.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I had the same problem - on my Xbox One. Constant controller disconnects.
Funny enough I’ve never experienced the issue on my PC, with the first party dongle. Now I’m using Bluetooth with a Series controller, and no issues there either.
Sometimes tech is just squirrelly.
Guilty_AI
Member
How to Remove The Witcher 3 Next-Gen Update for PC
The Witcher 3 next-gen update has improved a lot about the game but has caused a lot of performance issues for PC players.
clutchpoints.com
Just a few clicks and done, reverted to pre-next gen patch. If anything its much better than with consoles where you either get the (usually broken) 1.0 (assuming its physical) or the latest version.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It's the best OP.
MikeM
Member
Metal Gear Revengence doesn’t work on my PC. Can’t scale resolutions properly without some mods. But that is the odd one out.
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Deleted member 1159
Unconfirmed Member
A fully specced out desktop and a Steam Deck is life
kurisu_1974
Member
A lot of old Windows 3.1 games run too fast or not at all, for these and old DOS games you need to run an emulator like DOSBox.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
kurisu_1974
Member
Everything kinda runs on everything if you count emulation, so I didn't think we should for this discussion.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PS3 and X360 emulation runs on PS5? Why should we not count emulation?
kurisu_1974
Member
Damn dude, I'm sure you know what I meant. And we could count it, but the guy made it sound like it was native backwards compatibility and it is not.
Cramoss
Member
this
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
This thread is one of the better illustrations why PC gaming is the best.
MikeM
Member
Yeah but I don’t mod at all. Download and play. I may try it with that game but its shelved for now
Švejk
Banned
Been trying to get (back?) into PC gaming, but the same shit obstacles always come flooding back; Controller connection, optimization, connecting laptop to a TV, adjusting audio, having to run headphones from the laptop and not the controller, having to set up said laptop on a desk/chair, turn on blue tooth, and then some... It's still a chore for me. Setting up my PSVR takes less work. Lol I have to play with a PS controller though, so some obstacles I make for myself...
I remain optimistic though, because I love the potential of steam deck (the quick TV access) and it's big screen mode and PS controller settings. Feels like they're finally getting to a point where PC gaming is getting streamlined more than ever... And if it weren't for mods, I wouldn't even give a second of consideration towards PC gaming, tbph. But that's a HUGE factor there, and worth the effort alone.
I remain optimistic though, because I love the potential of steam deck (the quick TV access) and it's big screen mode and PS controller settings. Feels like they're finally getting to a point where PC gaming is getting streamlined more than ever... And if it weren't for mods, I wouldn't even give a second of consideration towards PC gaming, tbph. But that's a HUGE factor there, and worth the effort alone.
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hououinkyouma00
Member
This. Console game sales have caught up to steam in the last few years.
I remember the glory days of 70% and above on a ton of shit. You could get semi recent games for dirt cheap. That is increasingly rare these days.
Elysium44
Banned
Not a game I care about but NBA 2K24 is getting hammered on Steam for being inferior to the console versions.
www.eurogamer.net
There have been games in the past which did this, I seem to remember Dead or Alive 6 is inferior on PC to the PS4/Xbox One versions in terms of graphical effects. Having the best hardware doesn't always help, when some developers treat PC gamers as second class citizens.
NBA 2K24 is already the second-worst reviewed game on Steam
NBA 2K24 is the second-worst reviewed game on Steam following a hugely negative reaction from fans to the PC version. R…
www.eurogamer.net
There have been games in the past which did this, I seem to remember Dead or Alive 6 is inferior on PC to the PS4/Xbox One versions in terms of graphical effects. Having the best hardware doesn't always help, when some developers treat PC gamers as second class citizens.
MacReady13
Member
Recently built my gaming PC but damn if it isn't frustrating... Starfield just randomly closing straight to desktop. My PC randomly restarted the other day whilst on the Windows home screen. Forza Horizon doing the same thing as Starfield. Love the freedom to do what you want but those issue constantly creeping in make it difficult to give up console gaming for that stability.
Kataploom
Gold Member
That's shit, they should have made like EA (of all companies lmao) did with Bioshock 1 & 2, when they released the remasters, they delisted original versions and gave original owners a copy of the remaster so nobody stayed out of the upgrade and kept access to original version.PC gaming where companies like CDPR change the game you bought afterwards so it no longer runs very well. They did it with Witcher 3 and it looks like they're doing it again.
CDPR dev warns players new Cyberpunk 2077 patch (and expansion) might make your PC overheat, urges for you to check before playing!
I recently ran a full virus scan here in Brazil and my 10900K reached T junction temperatures. Stay cool while exploring NC, folks! EDIT: New tweet from the same dev regarding the original tweet Poor guy must have been scolded by some useless middle manager for speaking out of turn.
Console gamers just don't have to worry about any of this stuff. You install the game and play it and that's all you ever have to do.
Another moan... I use an Xbox pad with my PC and use the official Microsoft bluetooth adapter, this works well most of the time but sometimes it just loses connection and requires you to actually remove the USB device physically from the computer and reinsert it, then it works. Even a reboot doesn't fix it, you have to remove it physically. This is a bug that affects a lot of people and Microsoft have never fixed it in all the years it's existed. It's a pain as my PC is under my desk and it's awkward to get to. I have to do this every so often.
Regarding controller disconnecting, it doesn't frequently but yeah, I definitely get it, it happens to me since I got a Windows Xbox Controller dongle and I thought it was the device. There's definitely some software issue there.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
Thing is: On PC you can, and the system is natively prepared for that. On consoles you can't unless you hack it, which makes it even more problematic than PC, with less advantages and risking it to get bricked.
This reminds me when someone complains:
"PC being shit because if you run everything max with RT it goes to shit but console versions do well".
Sure, they complainers most of the time are those people running the game way beyond console specs and modding and whatnot, if PC players ran most of the ports released this year at console settings they wouldn't even notice most problems.
PC main disadvantage is that it can be and do everything, therefore people will try to push it as much as they can with its unexpected side effects, but as long as you don't try to go too crazy with it and stay in the line of officially supported features, it's a pretty seamless experience 99% of the time.
You can even avoid buying games in other stores than Steam, have all your games on Steam, use SBP with a controller and you rarely need to use a M&K as long as you use your PC for gaming alone. I know because I barely touch my M&K and I play every day on it that way.