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Media-Create Sales: May 4-10, 2009

Oldschool

Oldschool

Member
Good numbers for Growlanser.

I hope after seeing Persona and Growlanser sales Atlus will release some high quality games for PSP.
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
[borat]Year of the Winning Eleven...not![/borat]

PES 2008
NDS - October - 79k
PS2 - November - 680k
PS3 - November - 317k
360 - November - 18k
PSP - January - 190k
WII - February - 110k
Total 1,394,000

PES 2009
NDS - Canceled
PS3 - November - 372k
360 - November - 21k
PS2 - January - 200k
PSP - January - 200k
WII - May - 8,5k
Total 801,500

Wii one last year did 20k first day

edit: updated some LTDs with miscellaneous famitsu updates not on garaph yet
 
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Laguna

Banned
Cosmonaut X said:
These are first day sales, so you can expect something closer to maybe 15k for the week, but yes, this isn't great news. Konami's handling of the franchise on the Wii has been terrible - the only good decision they made was in letting the dev team rework the series fully, but they seem to have made every attempt to sabotage that good work at every stage.
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The sad part is that they´ll most likely will make the developers responsible for this sales. It was acceptable that the first one (Playmaker2008) was released late since it basically was a completely new gameplay, Playmaker 2009 on the other hand didn´t have this excuse but it released even later than all the other versions than its predecessor did. Playmaker 2010 looks like a late release too...
 
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Spiegel

Member
bttb said:
Famitsu First Day Sales (05/14)

[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE) - 20,000 (40%)
[PSP] Growlanser (Atlus) - 19,000 (50%)
[WII] Winning Eleven Playmaker 2009 (Konami) - 8,500 (20%)
[PS2] Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 6: Rio 2 Cruising Vanadis (Tecmo) - 5,000 (30%)
[PS2] Arcobaleno! (Idea Factory) - SE 1,000 (40%) / LE 700 (40%)
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Growlanser does really good for a overpriced port (it cost 700Y more than Persona and doesn't include extras). It's going to sell close, perhaps better, than the last Growlanser game for ps2

WE2009 does disappointing numbers. Konami should stop doing experiments and release all the versions the same day

Bleach does exactly like the last game did last year. 20k

EDIT

It seems I was wrong. Sinobi says BHTS5 did 23k first day
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Based on the latest Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 59.5 / 40.5 bring total shares to 68.3 / 31.7. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 329.9 weeks (September 6, 2015).

X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 21.5 / 78.5 bring total shares to 24.5 / 75.5. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 417.4 weeks (May 11, 2017).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 43.1 / 56.9 cap PS3's string of Media Create weekly victories at 10. It's also the highest Wii number in over three months. This brings total shares to 28.2 / 71.8. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 261.8 weeks (May 17, 2014).

Week over week, Nintendo systems are slightly up, while everything else is slightly down.
X360



Through the first nineteen weeks of the year, almost everything is down by some degree. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.

Wii: -64.0%
DSL+DSi: -1.3%
PS2: -50.9%
PS3: +28.0%
PSP: -42.8%
X360: +246.2%

Home hardware: -36.3%
Portable hardware: -24.4%
Sum of all hardware: -29.2%
 
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Rolf NB

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
[borat]Year of the Winning Eleven...not![/borat]

<...>

PES 2009
<...>
WII - February - 8,5k
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What? Is it completely terrible and/or banned from sale in most parts of the country or ...?
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
bcn-ron said:
What? Is it completely terrible and/or banned from sale in most parts of the country or ...?
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Or it just released! Its first day only, like I said last year version did 20k first day. The comparison is trying to show WE downfall though, "2009" 5 versions could very well end up combined below a million. Just a few years ago the PS2 version was more than enough to hit that.
 
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Rolf NB

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Or it just released! Its first day only, like I said last year version did 20k first day. The comparison is trying to show WE downfall though, "2009" 5 versions could very well end up combined below a million. Just a few years ago the PS2 version was more than enough to hit that.
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Oh! In that case I'd like to offer the scenario that writing "February" there might have been a mistake. Is that possible?
 
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Kogepan

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Or it just released! Its first day only, like I said last year version did 20k first day. The comparison is trying to show WE downfall though, "2009" 5 versions could very well end up combined below a million. Just a few years ago the PS2 version was more than enough to hit that.
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Most of the versions are holding near/above the 2008 levels with the exception of PS2, which is about ~400k short...
 
Oldschool

Oldschool

Member
Spiegel said:
Growlanser does really good for a overpriced port (it cost 700Y more than Persona and doesn't include extras). It's going to sell close, perhaps better, than the last Growlanser game for ps2

WE2009 does disappointing numbers. Konami should stop doing experiments and release all the versions the same day

Bleach does exactly like the last game did last year. 20k

EDIT

It seems I was wrong. Sinobi says BHTS5 did 23k first day
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Wow, didnt know growlanser was so unpopular.

But hey, amazing sales then.

Maybe they will consider releasing a new Growlanser on PSP.
 
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shykyoichi

Member
slaughterking said:
11/27/08 360
11/27/08 PS3

01/29/09 PSP
01/29/09 PS2

05/14/09 Wii

And no DS version.
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Jokeropia said:
From Kurosaki's post:

PS3 - November
360 - November
PS2 - January
PSP - January
WII - May
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Thanks. So 4-6 months. Meh. I won't wait for that specific version if it would take that much time.
 
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donny2112

Member
Famitsu Apr 20-26

01./00. [WII] Monster Hunter G (Capcom) - 142,852 / NEW
02./01. [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 56,160 / 198,424 (-61%)
03./00. [PS3] Killzone 2 (SCEI) - 43,028 / NEW
04./00. [PSP] Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 3: The Collapsing City and the Girl's Song (Disaster Report 3) (Irem) - 31,827 / NEW
05./03. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom) - 24,675 / 648,249 (+23%)
06./00. [360] Death Smiles (Cave) - 20,302 / NEW
07./04. [NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo) - 15,663 / 551,810 (-14%)
08./02. [PSP] Sengoku Basara: Battle Heroes (Capcom) - 14,756 / 130,969 (-48%)
09./08. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 12,211 / 3,313,584 (+20%)
10./00. [NDS] A Ressha de Gyoukou DS (Take the A-Train DS) (Artdink) - 11,532 / NEW

11./00. [360] H.A.W.X. (Ubisoft) - 8,901 / NEW
12./11. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii (Namco Bandai Games) - 8,707 / 509,682 (+4%)
13./07. [NDS] Pro Baseball Famista DS 2009 (Namco Bandai Games) - 8,664 / 66,490 (-26%)
14./14. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) - 8,088 / 1,688,265 (+1%)
15./10. [WII] Deca Sporta 2: Wii de Sports 10 Shumoku! (Hudson) - 7,866 / 16,460 (-8%)
16./09. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2009 (#15) (Konami) - 7,245 / 123,800 (-24%)
17./15. [NDS] Rittai Picross (3D) (Nintendo) - 6,403 / 114,880 (-13%)
18./12. [PSP] Kidou Senshi Gundam: Senjou no Kizuna Portable (Namco Bandai Games) - 5,859 / 142,470 (-28%)
19./13. [PS3] Musou Orochi Z (Koei) - 5,442 / 199,625 (-33%)
20./16. [NDS] Tongari Boushi to Mahou no 365 Nichi (Little Magician's Magic Adventure) (Konami) - 5,366 / 363,159 (-14%)
21./00. [PS2] Little Anchor (D3 Publisher) - 5,254 / NEW
22./19. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (BEST) (SEGA) - 4,910 / 30,306 (0%)
23./06. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! Fate of Heat II (Takara Tomy) - 4,710 / 19,302 (-68%)
24./05. [PSP] Fantasy Golf Pangya Portable (Takara Tomy) - 4,521 / 20,667 (-72%)
25./30. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 4,520 / 2,390,763 (+15%)
26./26. [NDS] Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's: Stardust Accelerator World Championship 2009 (Konami) - 4,404 / 63,584 (+4%)
27./00. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 4,340 / 1,125,040
28./28. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 4,251 / 2,223,007 (+6%)
29./22. [PS3] Resident Evil 5 (Capcom) - 4,117 / 454,367 (-11%)
30./23. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 11 (Konami) - 4,115 / 225,814 (-9%)

*. [NDS] Aim!! Fishing Master DS (Hudson) - 3,900 / NEW
*. [PSP] Disgaea 2 Portable (Nippon Ichi Software) - 3,698 / 64,981
*. [NDS] Kanji Brain 2 Premium (IE Institute) - 3,500 / NEW
*. [PSP] Nanatama: Chronicle of Dungeon Maker (Global A) - 2,900 / NEW
*. [NDS] Super Robot Taisen K (Namco Bandai Games) - 2,771 / 198,455
*. [WII] Oboro Muramasa: The Demon Blade (Marvelous) - 2,575 / 32,100
*. [NDS] Last Bullet (FuRyu) - 1,900 / NEW
*. [NDS] Another Time Another Leaf: Detective in the Mirror (Arc System Works) - 1,300 / NEW
*. [PS2] Tomb Raider: Underworld (Spike) - 740 / NEW
*. [WII] Major Minor's Majestic March (Square Enix) - 600 / NEW
*. [NDS] Yatsu Hakamura (Eight Tomb Village) (From Software) - 590 / NEW


Bar Chart Apr 20-26 (thanks to JoshuaJSlone/garaph.info)

2009-04-20

Note: Image may be delayed from the time of this post, but will automatically show once the data is ready.


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

Mar 23-29, 2009
Mar 30-Apr 5, 2009
Apr 6-12, 2009
Apr 13-19, 2009
 
B

Blablurn

Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
[borat]Year of the Winning Eleven...not![/borat]

PES 2008
NDS - October - 79k
PS2 - November - 680k
PS3 - November - 317k
360 - November - 18k
PSP - January - 190k
WII - February - 110k
Total 1,394,000

PES 2009
NDS - Canceled
PS3 - November - 372k
360 - November - 21k
PS2 - January - 200k
PSP - January - 200k
WII - May - 8,5k
Total 801,500

Wii one last year did 20k first day

edit: updated some LTDs with miscellaneous famitsu updates not on garaph yet
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just wait till next year. PES 2010 is going to destroy everything. EVERYTHING.
 
Shouta

Shouta

Member
Spiegel said:
Growlanser does really good for a overpriced port (it cost 700Y more than Persona and doesn't include extras). It's going to sell close, perhaps better, than the last Growlanser game for ps2
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Incorrect, Growlanser PSP includes new characters and story to the game. So it isn't a simple port.
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 229 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 182.0 weeks (August 24, 2003), where DS was at 100.2 weeks (October 30, 2006), and where GBA was at 154.8 weeks (March 6, 2004).

X360 comparisons: After 177 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 16.7 weeks (January 4, 2002), where PS3 was at 37.1 weeks (July 23, 2007), and where Wii was at 5.3 weeks (January 2, 2007).

PS3 comparisons: After 129 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 44.2 weeks (January 2, 2001), where PSP was at 66.4 weeks (March 15, 2006), where GCN was at 121.1 weeks (January 5, 2004), and where Wii was at 37.4 weeks (July 25, 2007).

So PS3 has finally escaped from what PS2 did in its launch calendar year, March-December.

Wii comparisons: After 126 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 95.7 weeks (January 17, 2003), where DS was at 76.6 weeks (May 18, 2006), where PS2 was at 114.6 weeks (May 9, 2002), and where PSP was at 165.5 weeks (February 6, 2008).

DSi comparisons: After 26 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 45.0 weeks (December 21, 2003) and where DSL was at 14.8 weeks (June 10, 2006).

Famitsu Software Stuff

For those who have been watching the Media Create sales, these Famitsu ones will be even more old hat than usual, BUT HEY, now I can throw them into my graphs.

Monster Hunter G Wii (3504) starts off slightly stronger than the 2005 PS2 game it's a port of (2077).
400


PSP original Disaster Report 3 (3506) doesn't start as strong as the PS2 original (935), but stronger than the PS2 sequel (2419).
400


Though Animal Crossing Wild World has most recently been on the charts, this week it doesn't show up but City Folk does. City Folk has gained about 35K since we saw it last 1-2 months ago.
3281+-+Animal+Crossing%3A+City+Folk+-+Wii


It refuses to leave the Top 10, but Mario & Luigi RPG 3 (3432) is finally slowing down a little.
400


Famitsu Software Pie: With Monster Hunter G Wii has 27.6% of overall software sales, getting second place--to DS of course. This is its first second place and first week of over 20% since doing so throughout most of December and January.
 
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farnham

Banned
i dont understand konami and their PES Wii deal

the games are astonishingly well made polished and the 2009 version brings so many improvements over the (already godly) 2008 version its not funny

but they completely kill its selling potential by releasing it like half a year later

wtf
 
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Spiegel

Member
Shouta said:
Incorrect, Growlanser PSP includes new characters and story to the game. So it isn't a simple port.
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With "doesn't include extras" I meant it doesn't have extra stuff like the soundtrack
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
All-Time Top15 Publisher in Japan - Update (I've added 503 games since the last breakdown).



Total number of games: 6,007
Total number of units: 864,830,573
Average: 143,971


Number of games / Publisher / Units total / Average / Total market share / Growth of market share since last breakdown
Code: 
418x Nintendo		278,291,756		665,770		32.18% (- 0.23%)
605x Konami		66,610,305		110,100		 7.70% (- 0.04%)
98x  Square		52,820,246		538,982		 6.11% (- 0.15%)
295x Capcom		51,869,272		175,828		 6.00% (+ 0.09%)
295x SCE		47,783,567		161,978		 5.53% (- 0.06%)
305x Bandai		38,009,286		124,621		 4.40% (- 0.06%)
336x Sega		36,008,830		107,169		 4.16% (- 0.02%)
51x  Enix		35,190,764		690,015		 4.07% (- 0.09%)
164x Namco		31,633,755		192,889		 3.66% (- 0.07%)
128x Square Enix	30,986,331		242,081		 3.58% (- 0.02%)
216x Bandai Namco	22,636,310		104,798		 2.62% (+ 0.22%)
200x Koei		18,607,936		93,040		 2.15% (+ 0.06%)
127x Hudson		18,024,233		141,923		 2.08% (- 0.03%)
133x Banpresto		17,662,574		132,801		 2.04% (- 0.04%)
78x  Atlus		6,297,623		80,739		 0.73% (+ 0.01%)

2558x Others		112,397,785		43,940		13.00% (+ 0.43%)

For Comparison the last update: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14590082&postcount=269
 
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Kurosaki Ichigo

Member
Blablurn said:
just wait till next year. PES 2010 is going to destroy everything. EVERYTHING.
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Did they announce a PS2 version? I noticed yesterday that Konami plans 0 games for PS2 to be released in the next fiscal year but I thought they didn't drop the PS2 WE/PES yet.


Btw, about Growlanser, I'm trying to find a first day figure for any of the previous titles...and I can't find a single one! It also seems that not a single Growlanser title charted in its 3rd week on sale, just the 1st and 2nd at best. Its that niche. Since there's so little data, I'll just post everything now so we can compare when we get first week data for the PSP port.

Code: 
&#12288;     &#12288;Title  	      Releasedate  	Plat  	1st Week  2nd  	3rd  	[B]LTD[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser  	99.11.25  	PS  	37,736  8,259  	-  	[B]56,574[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser II 	01.07.26 	PS2 	44,587 	8,556 	- 	[B]81,666[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser III 	01.12.06 	PS2 	47,444 	11,935 	- 	[B]74,814[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser IV  	03.12.18 	PS2 	62,121 	13,520 	- 	[B]107,134[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser IV (R) 	05.03.10 	PS2 	13,266 	- 	- 	[B]19,885[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser V  	06.08.03 	PS2 	42,667 	- 	- 	[B]69,711[/B]
&#12288;&#9660;&#12288;Growlanser VI 	07.06.21 	PS2 	32,914 	9,352 	- 	[B]58,451[/B]
Notes:
- First 4 titles had "Atlus Best Collection" re-releases but impossible for me to track
- Growlanser IV (R) is Growlanser IV Return, sort-of an expansion to IV
 
Shouta

Shouta

Member
Spiegel said:
With "doesn't include extras" I meant it doesn't have extra stuff like the soundtrack
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Ah, still. Considering they added new story and characters, and the job they've done with the graphics "overhaul" is really awesome, I'm working on the thread and got some comparison pics between the original PSX version running on a PSP and the PSP version.

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Btw, about Growlanser, I'm trying to find a first day figure for any of the previous titles...and I can't find a single one! It also seems that not a single Growlanser title charted in its 3rd week on sale, just the 1st and 2nd at best. Its that niche. Since there's so little data, I'll just post everything now so we can compare when we get first week data for the PSP port.
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It's weird, really. It's one of those series that doesn't seem popular but it's not totally niche either, at least here in Japan. Most of the games go on to sell a solid amount though, from what I recall.
 
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Spiegel

Member
Sinobi

HARDWARE (Ooooh boy):

Dsi 35k
DSL 4k
PSP 30k
Wii 13k
PS3 9k
360 4k



SOFTWARE:


[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE) - 41k
[PSP] Growlanser (Atlus) - 30k
[WII] Winning Eleven Playmaker 2009 (Konami) - 15k

Famitsu TOP 10

1.[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE)
2.[PSP] Growlanser (Atlus)
3.[NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Pokemon Co.)
4.[NDS] Made in Ore (Wario Ware) (Nintendo)
5.[NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Saiyajin Raishuu (Namco Bandai)
6.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom)
7.[WII] Winning Eleven Playmaker 2009 (Konami)
8.[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
9.[NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo)
10.[PS2] Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 6: Rio 2 Cruising Vanadis (Tecmo)
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Wow.

I think the videogame industry world wide is heading for a pretty big downturn this year.

Wow
 
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Cosmonaut X

Member
Jesus. Wii's lowest week ever? PS3 back to sub-10k levels? Both handhelds down? Software figures are likely to be horrible as well...
 
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donny2112

Member
Spiegel said:
Sinobi

HARDWARE (Ooooh boy):

Dsi 35k
DSL 4k
PSP 30k
Wii 13k
PS3 9k
360 4k
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That seems crazy. Famitsu was tracking Wii higher, and PS3 wasn't dropping that fast. Sinobi's usually good, though, so I don't know.

Spiegel said:
SOFTWARE:


[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE) - 41k

Famitsu TOP 10

1.[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE)
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If correct (see above), another terrible week for software. :/
 
M

mujun

Member
Spiegel said:
Sinobi

HARDWARE (Ooooh boy):

Dsi 35k
DSL 4k
PSP 30k
Wii 13k
PS3 9k
360 4k



SOFTWARE:


[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE) - 41k
[PSP] Growlanser (Atlus) - 30k
[WII] Winning Eleven Playmaker 2009 (Konami) - 15k

Famitsu TOP 10

1.[PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 6 (SCE)
2.[PSP] Growlanser (Atlus)
3.[NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky (Pokemon Co.)
4.[NDS] Made in Ore (Wario Ware) (Nintendo)
5.[NDS] Dragon Ball Kai: Saiyajin Raishuu (Namco Bandai)
6.[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST) (Capcom)
7.[WII] Winning Eleven Playmaker 2009 (Konami)
8.[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
9.[NDS] Mario & Luigi RPG 3!!! (Nintendo)
10.[PS2] Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 6: Rio 2 Cruising Vanadis (Tecmo)
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what are the numbers from last week?

btw, not sure how much of a difference it makes but there is a bit of panic here over swine flu. kids in kansai have been sent home from school all week. this might have had some impact.
 
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