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[Metallix87]

I wonder if Capcom could pull something off with RE like Nintendo does with Mario.

Make both kinds of games. The survivor horror and the more popular action variety. Similar to how nintendo makes both 3D and 2D mario games.

It's certainly possible. It really depends on how Revelations ends up doing in the long run, as well as what Capcom's expectations were for it.

 

[Novid]

If the Vita had a UMD drive, Ill bet all those new releases would have pushed more Vita hardware than it sold this week.

Yeah yeah yea... I know.... but still.

i been saying the same thing. to the letter. but everybody here has to get a universal translator for my posts.

 

[Mpl90]

It's certainly possible. It really depends on how Revelations ends up doing in the long run, as well as what Capcom's expectations were for it.

Didn't they say in a recent interview they would've followed this strategy? Both the action ones and the horror ones.

About a possible next RE on 3DS.
I was thinking about RE2 remake, but right now it seems that even Japanese people prefer more the action driven games of the series, buying even ORC a lot at launch. Maybe, the best fit for the platform is really a Resident Evil: Revelations 2, released in end 2013 / beginning 2014, taking advantage of the even larger installed base and RE fanbase established on the platform. It would certainly do better than Revelations...if 3DS doesn't suffer the Wii's fate XD

 

[Metallix87]

I agree, some kind of sequel to Revelations, possibly with a more robust Raid mode, would likely sell noticeably better in a year or two than Revelations did this year, especially if Capcom actually marketed it this time around.

 

[LOCK]

Great week for just about everybody. Congrats to FE.

My god, why is ORC selling so well.

I'm going to go with advertising.

I guess RE fans all over the world including Japan just really, really want the games on consoles. Capcom should definitely reconsider any future substantial support on portables if this is the case.

Or this.

PSP(2011 YTD)= 829,199
PSP+PSV(2012)=580,370(-30.0%)

Looking ahead to Week 18, PSP did 55,140 in 2011.

3DS+DS(2011 YTD)=1,342,079
3DS+DS(2012 YTD)=1,569,748(+17.0%)

Looking ahead to week 18, 3DS+DS did 48,665 in 2011.

All handhelds(2011 YTD)=2,171,278
All handhelds(2012 YTD)=2,150,118

Almost. I feel like I say that every week now. But I wonder just how big of a bump the 3DS will get because of Golden Week. It is already seeing a bump in software, so that should bode well overall.

 

[test_account]

http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2932407.jpg

Ciel no Surge had 31,102 total users as of Tuesday afternoon (date stamped @ upper right). So much for attempting to extrapolate DL numbers, as the numbers are significantly smaller than physical copies sold. Must be a lot of users w/ unopened copies?

I think it is more likely that many havnt went online with their Vita.

People celebrating over a 4 thousand unit increase for the Vita? Really?

Saying some positive words about the increased sale isnt necessarily the same as celebrating though.

 

[guek]

So is there anything this week that'll prevent vita from slipping back down under 10k?

 

[BassForever]

Is it at all possible that some of FE 60k this week is from the bundled numbers that were never officially counted last week? If not I'm even more impressed by FE's numbers, really hope in a few months we here some numbers for DLC to see how well it's selling in Japan.

 

[Chris1964]

So is there anything this week that'll prevent vita from slipping back down under 10k?

Golden Week

 

[Metallix87]

So is there anything this week that'll prevent vita from slipping back down under 10k?

Golden Week.

Next week should be horrible, though.

 

[chickdigger802]

So reviews are completely pointless?



btw: what did Famitsu give ORC?

 

[guek]

Golden Week

Ah, that's right. What kind of hardware boosts are people expecting?

 

[The_lascar]

The Lascar, good timing. I had a question for you: at NintendojoFR I saw you summarized lot of data regarding Nintendo. I wonder if you got data on the number of teams at Nintendo and the number of people for each team.

The reason is that Nintendo grew almost by 2000 people since 2005 and I would be interested to know where they are employed within the company.

Thanks in advance.

Spoiler

Depuis combien de temps a tu ouvert le site gamecharts.fr?

For that kind of information, you have to use the Kyoto Report, and ask to Shikamaru Ninja. But it's a very difficult request and I don't think there's any way to knowing this.

Spoiler

Depuis janvier 2010.

 

[Alrus]

So reviews are completely pointless?



btw: what did Famitsu give ORC?

8/7/7/6 I think, which is pretty low for a RE game.

 

[Chris1964]

There will be sharp drops at hardware after Golden Week. The systems that won't get a small bump or at least maintain this week's sales will be at worse position.

Kinda disappointing sales overall for GW this year. There wasn't the big seller.

 

[Metallix87]

Kinda disappointing sales overall for GW this year. There wasn't the big seller.

These aren't Golden Week sales.

 

[Chris1964]

These aren't Golden Week sales.

No, but this week will be worse.

Edit: By next I meant this.

 

[Metallix87]

No, but next week will be worse.

Absolutely, but you said Golden Week sales were disappointing, which is silly since Golden Week is this week and we won't know how sales were until next week. Next week's sales will definitely be worse, of course, since it's the week after GW.

 

[Boney]

Kinda disappointing sales overall for GW this year. There wasn't the big seller.

There wasn't anything big last year either. DQM:J2 I guess but that released a week before this one.

 

[Chris1964]

The big week is always the week before GW as all new games come out then. Nothing releases during GW. ORC will drop like a rock and only Mario Party and 3-4 3DS games will sell some copies.

Maybe Square should have tried releasing DQM one month earlier.

 

[Metallix87]

That's true. I definitely think we'll see a Top 10 dominated by 3DS games, and possibly a resurgence of older games getting sales bumps.

 

[bigtroyjon]

Which week last year was Golden Week? Was it week 18 like this year?

 

[Chris1964]

Which week last year was Golden Week? Was it week 18 like this year?

The week you see no new release is Golden Week. 18 too last year.

 

[Mpl90]

Given what happened in the last three years, next week Nintendo consoles should increase a bit, while Sony ones should decrease.

 

[ßig]

-----------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Year  | 
-----------------------------------
|  3DS  |     74.282 |     28.413 |
| PSP # |     22.457 |     77.225 |
-----------------------------------

How things have changed...

 

[Culex]

Updating my graph:

Vita has a marginal increase, so there may be hope for 20k at Golden Week!.

Fire Emblem is showing a great second week, too.

 

[Man God]

There is a good chance Mario Party explodes this week.

 

[BassForever]

If ORC numbers explode next week due to GW I think REGAF will be on suicide watch

Spoiler

Me included

 

[Truth101]

If ORC numbers explode next week due to GW I think REGAF will be on suicide watch

Spoiler

Me included

It isn't the type of game to get a gigantic boost from Golden Week.

 

[muu]

I think it is more likely that many havnt went online with their Vita.

As silly as it may sound you are required to connect to Gust's servers to play this game.

 

[Erethian]

People celebrating over a 4 thousand unit increase for the Vita? Really?

Lowered expectations.

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Is it safe to say Monster Hunter people decided they wanted a second game and several are dipping into Fire Emblem?

 

[grimshawish]

taking advantage of the even larger installed base and RE fanbase established on the platform

I think a sequel should launch better, as you say its got fans of Revelations 1; RE fanbase generally; bigger install base. Plus tbh I think customers sometimes buy sequels cause well...good games get sequels!

Certainly Revelations seemed to get things right. They just need to tidy it up a bit for any sequel (also maybe wait a while I think). Full on proper Zombies would help too, brand wise Revelations is quite removed from the recent editions of the series which have all concentrated hard on zombie-esque enemies. Just see RE6 trailer for that.

I agree, some kind of sequel to Revelations, possibly with a more robust Raid mode, would likely sell noticeably better in a year or two than Revelations did this year, especially if Capcom actually marketed it this time around.

Agreed. A few more game types would help to. E.g. Survival.

 

[grimshawish]

Is it safe to say Monster Hunter people decided they wanted a second game and several are dipping into Fire Emblem?

You can say that about any of the 3DS games. How exactly are these 2 specially connected??

 

[Truth101]

Is it safe to say Monster Hunter people decided they wanted a second game and several are dipping into Fire Emblem?

Rather than that I feel as Nintendo targeted a wider audience with this Fire Emblem game.

-Dating sim elements
-Pink Fire Emblem Point Cards

Both are things that would attract more of a female audience.

 

[Alrus]

Rather than that I feel as Nintendo targeted a wider audience with this Fire Emblem game.

-Dating sim elements
-Pink Fire Emblem Point Cards

Both are things that would attract more of a female audience.

The Art being much less "serious" looking than before probably helped too.

Edit: I don't mean the art is bad, because it's absolutely gorgeous and I think the game has one of the best boxart ever made, but past games had a very "hard fantasy" feel, when this one looks much lighter.

 

[Road]

Congratulations to frankie_baby for winning by both units and percentage!

BY UNITS                             BY PERCENTAGE

  1   137,352 frankie_baby              1  212.5% frankie_baby
  2   154,891 Moor-Angol                2  228.2% Chris1964
  3   161,976 Chris1964                 3  239.7% electroplankton
  4   164,254 Road                      4  267.4% Colonel Mustard
  5   168,590 electroplankton           5  267.6% Road
  6   176,754 Colonel Mustard           6  269.4% Moor-Angol
  7   218,770 Bruno MB                  7  286.7% Nekki
  8   224,590 MasterSheen               8  298.4% Green Slime
  9   230,824 Nekki                     9  321.0% Olaeh
 10   252,288 Green Slime              10  344.1% Yeshua
 11   257,590 Olaeh                    11  346.3% MasterSheen
 12   259,522 Gianni Merryman          12  348.5% Bruno MB
 13   287,713 lunchwithyuzo            13  357.4% Gianni Merryman
 14   288,522 Yeshua                   14  399.9% donny2112
 15   340,590 Salvadora                15  403.1% lunchwithyuzo
 16   343,824 donny2112                16  411.8% Salvadora



                                   M-Create donny21 Yeshua  electro Salvado Green S Gianni  Bruno M frankie Olaeh   MasterS lunchwi Chris19 Colonel Nekki   Moor-An Road
[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc 252,525   75000  120000  135000   50000   90000   70000  138000  161000   94000  136000  111111  210987  185000  130000  187211  222000
[WII] Mario Party 9                 152,883  185000  250000  145000  150000  125000  170000  131000  159000  110000  105000  222222  234567  210000  210000  119848  222000
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc  16,285   10000   10000   11000    9000   12000    4000   19000   17000   11000       0   11111   21098   18500   11000    7325   22000
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no   24,849   95000   20000   25000   80000   20000   20000   49600   20000   28000   33000   55555   32109   29000   40000    5053   66000
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.           15,578   50000   40000   35000   60000   45000   32000   46300   29000   35000   24000   33333    9876   37000   20000   16706   22000
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                   33,324   10000   10000   15000    5000   10000    7000    9150   12600    5000    6000    9999   12345    9000    7000    6666   22000

DIFFERENCE

[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc       0 -177525 -132525 -117525 -202525 -162525 -182525 -114525  -91525 -158525 -116525 -141414  -41538  -67525 -122525  -65314  -30525
[WII] Mario Party 9                       0   32117   97117   -7883   -2883  -27883   17117  -21883    6117  -42883  -47883   69339   81684   57117   57117  -33035   69117
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc       0   -6285   -6285   -5285   -7285   -4285  -12285    2715     715   -5285  -16285   -5174    4813    2215   -5285   -8960    5715
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no        0   70151   -4849     151   55151   -4849   -4849   24751   -4849    3151    8151   30706    7260    4151   15151  -19796   41151
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.                0   34422   24422   19422   44422   29422   16422   30722   13422   19422    8422   17755   -5702   21422    4422    1128    6422
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                        0  -23324  -23324  -18324  -28324  -23324  -26324  -24174  -20724  -28324  -27324  -23325  -20979  -24324  -26324  -26658  -11324

STATISTICS
                                   M-Create AVERAGE   MIN     MAX     OVER   UNDER  CLOSEST    BY
[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc 252,525 132,207  50,000 222,000      0%    100% 222,000 Road
[WII] Mario Party 9                 152,883 171,790 105,000 250,000     56%     44% 150,000 Salvadora
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc  16,285  12,936   4,000  22,000     31%     69%  17,000 frankie_baby
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no   24,849  38,645   5,053  95,000     69%     31%  25,000 electroplankton
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.           15,578  33,451   9,876  60,000     94%      6%  16,706 Moor-Angol
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                   33,324   9,798   5,000  22,000      0%    100%  22,000 Road

 

[linko9]

Yeah, don't think MH has anything to do with FE's success. This game is much more forgiving than the par for the series, which probably attracted a much wider audience. Also haven't they been marketing the game pretty heavily? And the game looks gorgeous, IMO, so that probably helped.

 

[Dash Kappei]

I thought the doom and gloom about the Vita was overblown and that it'd start showing signs of strength; nice to see my prediction come to fruition.

Yes, 12k is such an achievement and positive sign alright, I don't understand where all this "doom and gloom" comes from

So, was revelations a bomb? It's not doing too hot in NPD's either.

Absolutely not a bomb, one of the strongest perfoming RE spin-offs. More than a quarter of a million, will at least crawl to 300k when all is said and done.
Didn't set the charts on fire, bur definitely not a bomba.

(Media-Create/GAF's average)

[PS3] Resident Evil:ORC 252,525 / 132,207
[WII] Mario Party 9 152,883 / 171,790
[PSP] Steins;Gate: HR 24,849 / 38,645
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. 15,578 / 33,451
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge 33,324 / 9,798

Interesting, Orc and CN perfomed way over expectations.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Holy shit, no one was even close on ORC. The closest estimate still underestimated it by over 10%, and that guess was a rather extreme outlier. Only two people even guessed correctly that the PS3 version would outperform Mario Party (For this week, of course it'll win in the long run), crazy stuff. This game came out of absolutely nowhere or what? Shouldn't we of been able to extrapolate high sales from Comgnet?

 

[mclem]

Updating my graph:

I notice that the 3DS hasn't dropped below 50k since September.
Even then, it was only *just* below. It's not gone below 49k since the price cut.

 

[mclem]

This game is much more forgiving than the par for the series, which probably attracted a much wider audience.

Does it still have permadeath?

It crossed my mind that if Nintendo ever thinks of "Pay 100Y to res this character", we're all doomed.

 

[frankie_baby]

Congratulations to frankie_baby for winning by both units and percentage!

BY UNITS                             BY PERCENTAGE

  1   137,352 frankie_baby              1  212.5% frankie_baby
  2   154,891 Moor-Angol                2  228.2% Chris1964
  3   161,976 Chris1964                 3  239.7% electroplankton
  4   164,254 Road                      4  267.4% Colonel Mustard
  5   168,590 electroplankton           5  267.6% Road
  6   176,754 Colonel Mustard           6  269.4% Moor-Angol
  7   218,770 Bruno MB                  7  286.7% Nekki
  8   224,590 MasterSheen               8  298.4% Green Slime
  9   230,824 Nekki                     9  321.0% Olaeh
 10   252,288 Green Slime              10  344.1% Yeshua
 11   257,590 Olaeh                    11  346.3% MasterSheen
 12   259,522 Gianni Merryman          12  348.5% Bruno MB
 13   287,713 lunchwithyuzo            13  357.4% Gianni Merryman
 14   288,522 Yeshua                   14  399.9% donny2112
 15   340,590 Salvadora                15  403.1% lunchwithyuzo
 16   343,824 donny2112                16  411.8% Salvadora



                                   M-Create donny21 Yeshua  electro Salvado Green S Gianni  Bruno M frankie Olaeh   MasterS lunchwi Chris19 Colonel Nekki   Moor-An Road
[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc 252,525   75000  120000  135000   50000   90000   70000  138000  161000   94000  136000  111111  210987  185000  130000  187211  222000
[WII] Mario Party 9                 152,883  185000  250000  145000  150000  125000  170000  131000  159000  110000  105000  222222  234567  210000  210000  119848  222000
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc  16,285   10000   10000   11000    9000   12000    4000   19000   17000   11000       0   11111   21098   18500   11000    7325   22000
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no   24,849   95000   20000   25000   80000   20000   20000   49600   20000   28000   33000   55555   32109   29000   40000    5053   66000
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.           15,578   50000   40000   35000   60000   45000   32000   46300   29000   35000   24000   33333    9876   37000   20000   16706   22000
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                   33,324   10000   10000   15000    5000   10000    7000    9150   12600    5000    6000    9999   12345    9000    7000    6666   22000

DIFFERENCE

[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc       0 -177525 -132525 -117525 -202525 -162525 -182525 -114525  -91525 -158525 -116525 -141414  -41538  -67525 -122525  -65314  -30525
[WII] Mario Party 9                       0   32117   97117   -7883   -2883  -27883   17117  -21883    6117  -42883  -47883   69339   81684   57117   57117  -33035   69117
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc       0   -6285   -6285   -5285   -7285   -4285  -12285    2715     715   -5285  -16285   -5174    4813    2215   -5285   -8960    5715
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no        0   70151   -4849     151   55151   -4849   -4849   24751   -4849    3151    8151   30706    7260    4151   15151  -19796   41151
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.                0   34422   24422   19422   44422   29422   16422   30722   13422   19422    8422   17755   -5702   21422    4422    1128    6422
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                        0  -23324  -23324  -18324  -28324  -23324  -26324  -24174  -20724  -28324  -27324  -23325  -20979  -24324  -26324  -26658  -11324

STATISTICS
                                   M-Create AVERAGE   MIN     MAX     OVER   UNDER  CLOSEST    BY
[PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Racc 252,525 132,207  50,000 222,000      0%    100% 222,000 Road
[WII] Mario Party 9                 152,883 171,790 105,000 250,000     56%     44% 150,000 Salvadora
[360] Resident Evil: Operation Racc  16,285  12,936   4,000  22,000     31%     69%  17,000 frankie_baby
[PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no   24,849  38,645   5,053  95,000     69%     31%  25,000 electroplankton
[3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs.           15,578  33,451   9,876  60,000     94%      6%  16,706 Moor-Angol
[PSV] Ciel Nosurge                   33,324   9,798   5,000  22,000      0%    100%  22,000 Road

bloody hell, how did i manage that

 

[Instro]

Does it still have permadeath?

It crossed my mind that if Nintendo ever thinks of "Pay 100Y to res this character", we're all doomed.

It has both the normal permadeath mode, or a casual mode that does not.

 

[Road]

Holy shit, no one was even close on ORC. The closest estimate still underestimated it by over 10%, and that guess was a rather extreme outlier. Only two people even guessed correctly that the PS3 version would outperform Mario Party (For this week, of course it'll win in the long run), crazy stuff. This game came out of absolutely nowhere or what? Shouldn't we of been able to extrapolate high sales from Comgnet?

The wish for it to fail was stronger than reason for most I guess.



Returning back to the suggestion of monthly predictions. Do you people think it's better?

This month we'll have some reasonably expected releases, but the most interesting ones aren't in the same week, so if we did it monthly we could predict for them all at once; if we go weekly, it seems only the week of 24/5 has more than one notable release.

05/17 [PSP] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment

05/24 [3DS] Mario Tennis Open
05/24 [PS3] Dragon's Dogma
05/24 [360] Dragon's Dogma

05/31 [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry no Wonderland 3D <---

More games coming out this month: http://translate.google.com/transla...ranking/hatsubai/ranking.cgi?1335769657_21193

Then we have the issue of deciding which LTD to use: The last known Media Create LTD or the Famitsu monthly top 10.

And there's a final question: Which calendar to use. It's relevant because, for instance, [3DS] DQM3D is released in May, but it'll only be part of June by either Media Create or Famitsu. (If we want to go with the regular calendar instead of the trackers', our only option would be the last known LTD.)

 

[Kazerei]

New releases {2012.05.10}

[PS3] Starhawk <STG> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥5.980)

[PSP] Moe Moe: World War 2 Deluxe 2 (SystemSoft Selection) <SLG> (SystemSoft Alpha) (¥3.129)

Some of these PSP titles are unbelievable

 

[zroid]

Some of these PSP titles are unbelievable

I really can't afford to ever move to Japan. I would be making it far too easy for my natural otaku tendencies to completely take over.

 

[donny2112]

Then we have the issue of deciding which LTD to use: The last known Media Create LTD or the Famitsu monthly top 10.

The last known MC LTD seems like the best option, considering MC is what the predictions are based off of. I guess ignore the Monthly MC Nintendo Top 20, too, so just weekly Top 20 LTD numbers.

And there's a final question: Which calendar to use. It's relevant because, for instance, [3DS] DQM3D is released in May, but it'll only be part of June by either Media Create or Famitsu. (If we want to go with the regular calendar instead of the trackers', our only option would be the last known LTD.)

MC is a week off of Famitsu, so the MC month would probably include the first week of DQM3D. Therefore, MC month.

 

[mutsu]

I have a thought that will make everyone really sad.

We will likely get ORC2 but not Revelations 2.

 

[Truth101]

I have a thought that will make everyone really sad.

We will likely get ORC2 but not Revelations 2.

Capcom already said they were interested in making a sequel to Revelations. It probably preformed to their expectations.