Bad analogy. Unless I just imagined playing MK9 Vita for 3 hours straight, there's certainly content.
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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2012 (May 07 - May 13)
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People buy hardware for real games, not potential games.
A handheld with great hardware and no developer support is worthless to anyone with a brain.
If this was true nobody would ever buy any system at launch. If they have a brain of course
Exterminieren
Banned
With respect, we're in a sales thread. We're talking content that will push the system to the masses, and, quite self-evidently, Vita is severely lacking in those games.
If this was true nobody would ever buy any system at launch. If they have a brain of course
Don't misunderstand "potential games" for "games that are announced but not out for a while".
Because Vita doesn't have many of the latter.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
What a clusterfuck of a MC thread.
Aspects that the Vita hardware does not "shit on 3DS":
Number of screens
Degree of clamshellness
Flatness of analog input
Mutanthands
Member
It's already losing game support. You can't look at E.X. Troopers, which just got a reveal from Capcom, and not realize they would rather up-Rez the game and release it on the PS3, rather than release it on the Vita (which is where it was probably originally supposed to land).
Then again, that could just be Capcom trolling Vita again.
Software sales are weak for most everyone. No one can afford to throw things at the Vita market and see what sticks. Sony can't go to third parties and ask for titles with sales significantly weaker than the other platforms. Sony needs to boost confidence now in order to get software, other wise it will be a death spiral for the Vita.
E3, TGS, and worldwide holiday sales for 2012 are the last chances.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
It doesn't. You must have tried only ones with the power saving option on.
If you've only tried MGS 3D, that is the new color grading Kojipro wanted for the game for obvious reasons.
BishopLamont
Banned
This guy plays consoles, not games.
So damn sad to see the Vita dying. A 3DS only portable landscape is not a good thing.
It won't die. It's on its way to become the next otaku console like the PC-Engine, Saturn and 360 before it. Just closer to the 360 but still upwards of it.
The PSP already had the otaku audience, the Vita simply will only have this audience.
The Vita will continue to be an embarrassment to Sony, it will do worse than the PS3 even but Gust, N1 and Atlus adult buyers who can afford it will keep it afloat. See how the 360 is doing? Was it discontinued? No.
In related news, Cave canceled two games for Vita. Lol. Doesn't exactly prove my point but I stand by my above prediction.
Sony bailing out of the handheld market would be the biggest, most embarrasing crash ever since the fall of the dreamcast.
I really don't think they'd have the balls to admit defeat and retreat, they rather sink the whole ship by keeping it 3 or 4 years just there than be humble and admit it's not within their reach to keep that many gaming platforms alive.
This too, I do have hope that it will aquire some stability and traction with some announcements. I am actually looking forward to buy a vita in it's 3rd or 4th year of life, I want one for FFX.
All things said, I think Vita is past the point where you can reasonably put together the words "Vita" and "success" in a single sentence.
Yeah, but the 360 is doing very well in the US and Europe. While it's doing terrible in Japan, it also sold more than 3 times the userbase of the original Xbox over there and they didn't even try. The Vita otoh is doing terrible everywhere.
Metallix87
Member
Wow, this is a pretty random prediction.
The comparison with 360 is a bit ridiculous, since the 360 wasn't discontinued since it was doing excellent numbers in the West. If the West saw sales like Japan, 360 wouldn't be around anymore. Microsoft would have abandoned ship and tried new hardware a long time ago. Vita is doing terribly everywhere.
UncleSporky
Member
Some nice things will be announced at E3, and a chunk of GAF will start lolling at the "haters," talking about how all the doom was premature, etc.
Then the long wait will begin for those games, and when they finally come out they'll only cause a slight bump and we'll be right back where we are now in a year.
frankie_baby
Member
A year? I'd give it a week and a half
UncleSporky
Member
I mean the sales threads around this time next year will not look that much different, not that the slight bumps will have staying power.
I expect Vita to be selling better once has some software though, definitely.
I expect Vita to be selling better once has some software though, definitely.
frankie_baby
Member
I mean the sales threads around this time next year will not look that much different, not that the slight bumps will have staying power.
I expect Vita to be selling better once has some software though, definitely.
Difference with you and me is I don't ever expect any truly system selling software for it
electroplankton
Banned
Again, this is factually incorrect.
Perhaps, PSVita did not have strong IPs or AAA titles during its launch (which is something quite normal, and PSP with a smaller, though similar, line-up did way better than PSVita), but it DID have a Japanese centric selection of titles.
PSVita was released on December 17, 2011 with 26 titles; 6 were only digital, while the remaining were released both digitally and on PSVita cards. Among them, only 5 games were from Western developers (maybe I am missing one or two, but the point still holds). 5 games out of 20 is just 1/4.
3/4 of Japanese launch PSVita line-up were from Japanese developers. And there were pretty strong IPs on Sony ecosystesms, such as Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer and Disgaea; there was the sixth entry of Minna no Golf, which sold pretty well on both PSP and PS3, though on decline with respect to PS2 episodes. There were RPG of any kind: Disgaea 3, Lord of Apocalypse, Army Corps of Hell (the latter were directly from Square Enix... And it is not so common to have Square Enix titles for the launch of a new console); there were also two fighting games, a visual novel, an exclusive dating-sim-or-something (Dream Club), Katamary Damacy, which is surely pretty well-known in Japan, and a typical Japanese gaming experience.
So, I would not say that PSVita had a Western centric launch line-up, because it is not true.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it was initially thought exclusively for 3DS, and then up-port to PS3. They could have chosen PSVita, though.
The thing that didn't do the Vita any favour was launching in the holiday season against a 15000Y priced 3DS with MHTriG, SM3DL, Inazuma Eleven and MK7. It's hard to come back after that and even harder if your big launch titles are the n-version of DW and Hot Shots 6, and your upcoming lineup is pathetic.
So all the props for Nintendo. They ridiculized Sony and it's paying off for them.
So all the props for Nintendo. They ridiculized Sony and it's paying off for them.
The people trying to paint 3DS sales as poor are absolutely amazing!!
2 x (awful + terrible + weak + poor + bad) = ?
I knew that these replies would be coming and it's because you have a very good point. But I agree with sphinx that Sony probably won't bail out. They're good at pretending everything's super and they like to burn money.
They won't bail, it'll just do a PSPgo and slowly fade into oblivion.
Honestly, I don't see a lot of "nice things" being announced at E3 for Vita. I doubt even 10 worthwhile games will be there.
test_account
XP-39C²
Will any system have 10 worthwhile games at E3? (depending on what you mean with "worthwhile").
Opus Angelorum
Member
Xbox 720, believe.
test_account
XP-39C²
That would be cool
Moor-Angol
Banned
Saturn and PCE sold more than N64.......
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Oh they tried, but it's not a Japanese system, so that right there hurts them.
3DS at least.
NSMB2
Luigi's Mansion 2
Animal Crossing
Paper Mario
Fire Emblem
All already announced. Not difficult to imagine 5 more. And that's only from Nintendo themselves.
Two of them are not really confirmed. One is releasing next month. So that's only 2 left.
List wars indeed lol.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/40394/Report_Call_of_Duty_franchise_coming_to_Vita_this_fall.php
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-05-ubisoft-confirms-vita-launch-line-up
And Luigi's Mansion 2 should have been released in early 2012. What's the problem with listing Gravity Rush? It will surely be at E3.
I'm trying to make you realize how ridiculous your statement is.
If you get it, good, if you don't, you can ignore this and my previous post.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The Vita will pull respectable numbers when Sony presents it with a respectable price. It's like they completely ignored the first year of the PS3 - people don't buy pricy hardware for potential, especially when there is a cheaper alternative with a better library.
Father_Brain
Banned
It's like you have a crystal ball or something.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF assassin's creed Vita still isn't exactly confirmed, since what you posted stated a launch line up and an undefined Assassin's creed game, that we've heard absolutely nothing about and could have been cancelled between now and then.
Persona 4 Golden
Ragnarok Odyssey
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Sohter.Nura
Member
These are almost all console IPs, though.
The problem with the PSP / Vita is that it keeps trying to convert console experience into the portable realm. Most gamers would say they'd love to play Killzone on the go, but truthfully, the success of the handheld is directly linked to games that are developed specifically with the portable experience in mind.
Just look at Tetris and Pokemon. They were the games that made everybody go out there and buy a game boy or a game boy color. Those were experiences that were designed specifically for handheld experience and they revitalized the systems they were for. The same thing with Mon Hun on the PSP and the DS games.
Sony needs to get out of this mind-set and put some muscle into making games that will showcase their portable. I don't play Call of Duty-like games, but between playing Cod on my big screen and Cod on my portable, i'd much rather play it on my big screen.
frankie_baby
Member
Which audience exactly are you talking about?
I bought the 3DS pretty much for this game. If it's not at E3, we can probably kiss goodbye to this game being released this year?!?! WTH Nintendo!! Don't be so cruel!
No online + single analog kills it for me.