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Media Create Sales: Week 32, 2012 (Aug 06 - Aug 12)
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metalslimer
Member
Mario is a fad now? Anyway Brain Training's market has moved elsewhere. Also all of our predictions are going to be insanely off unless Obon actually makes it rise.
AppleBlade
Member
Yup, after 27 years the fad is finally fading!
By the Famitsu count it absolutely will hit 500k. By Media Create? We'll see.
Nintendo will be in trouble when people get bored in the television fad.
Spieler Eins
Member
I hope none of that karaoke stuff or Wii Fit meets their expectations when WiiU comes out and they finally get their shit together. I was ready for Nintendo HD, but what I got is what looks like the least ambitious Nintendo console to date. They sure need some good old slapping right now.
Yeah, I hope DQXI comes sooner than later.
frankie_baby
Member
While sing looks very unoriginal it does surprise me Nintendo never made a similar game on wii, wiifitu however I could see being very big as not needing the TV will turn it into a true anytime exercise system
I cannot wait for these two games to come out. DQ11 in particular needs to be on the 3ds and releasing next year.
frankie_baby
Member
I doubt it'd be so soon they'll wanna give some space to the wii u version of dq10
NSMB is a fad they're still trying to cash in on. I mean, they're basically carrying over the same assets from last gen games. Could you imagine N64 launching with a game that looked like a SNES game? GBA releasing what appears to be a GBC game? That's how NSMB U and 2 come off to me. Pure laziness that won't change until they stop selling 30 million copies every damn year.
Pretty much.
If the games are good who gives a shit.
with recent trend, the fight is not even close.
electroplankton
Banned
Guys, the training phenomenon declined years ago, when IE Institute and Rocket Company games had started to sell less and less, and new Nintendo touch generations games bombed (Face Training, Walking Training).
Being such a cheap project, Oni Training is profitable since day one, imo.
Being such a cheap project, Oni Training is profitable since day one, imo.
Way too soon, they still have to release DQX WiiU as well as the DQ7 Remake - DQXI wont hit before 2014. Also its very likely that the next main pokemon title will hit next september, doubt the Japanese school system would survive MH4, Pokemon Gen 6 and DQXI all release in the same calendar year.
I know I was joking. But I do want a non subscription based DQ game as soon as possible. I am more than willing to accept a DQ 3ds remake of some sort.
metalslimer
Member
NSMBU's assets are completely new. And the posts about hoping their casual stuff bombs just comes off as bitter. The only way publishers are going to be able to take chances on riskier projects is with surefire hits. Hoping this stuff bombs is only going to make them more conservative. Also it reeks of being unable to understand other's tastes.
Nice answer.
I guess that's how you advertise something without much actual content.
I really don't know what to think about hardware/software sales anywhere anymore. Everything is in a sorry state and not really matching any expectations I had. The only surprises that have exceeded expectations are Fire Emblem, Harvest Moon and EO4.
I really had hoped DQM, Kingdom Hearts, NSMB2 and Oni Training kicked off to much better sales.
yeah, cuz all Nintendo needs to stay on top is FPS and other mature titles...
frankie_baby
Member
If DQ10 subscriber numbers hold up well I wouldn't be surprised if 11 don't come out til 2015 and personally I'd guess at a wiiu/3ds multiplat
gamergirly
Member
The reasoning is that they needed a big Nintendo title for Wii U and also they did NSMB2 at same time to lower costs. I definitely think that NSMBU IS the title that was most spent on, as far as development costs and $$$. What this means is that its taking time for the other core Nintendo teams(EAD, etc) to come up with original titles. Nintendo knows they have major competition out next year/2014 so I'm completely sure the bigger titles built from the ground up for Wii U will debut next year. Less competition for 3DS but big titles for it are already announced in the near future and I expect more announcements as time goes
Its time to be realistic about what games are made for what purpose. NSMB2 is a 3DS rejuvenator/cash-in and NSMBU is a launch title that will be very popular and integral for Wii U's holiday season. Wii Zelda U be like that? Zelda 3DS? Mario 3D Wii U? NO. They will be what we have been waiting for and why some will regret not believing in Nintendo's future
Right.
I remember the Gamecube. Do you?
Yeah, 2013 should be a good year for Wii U. It better be.
I don't understand why NSMB2 was needed, honestly. 3D Land sold 5 million copies worldwide, no? Why is it necessary to release another Mario so soon after? They didn't release another Mario the year after NSMB DS was released. 2 is just going to kill some of the momentum 3D Land has, and possibly eat away some of the NSMB U sales. Doesn't make any sense to me coming out this year.
Canis lupus
Member
Vita somehow rose a little bit.
metalslimer
Member
Which failed? Yes I do. I'm sure Nintendo is itching to get back to that strategy again.
Metallix87
Member
I doubt that. Dragon Quest XI has probably been in the works for a while now, and likely a 3DS exclusive at this point. I'd guess it's a 2014 release, since next year will likely see the Wii U release of DQX.
Bruno MB
Member
You couldn't have chosen a worse example.
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electroplankton
Banned
Great!
I don't remember the Gamecube, what were all those superinnovative games that came for it?
The decision to make NSMB2 was made last year when Nintendo had to make sure that 3DS sales would pick up. It's a game with worldwide appeal and could be developed for the 3DS XL launch.
If 3DS had started selling millions right from the start, NSMB2 wouldn't exist yet.
Super Mario Sunshine was shit.
NSMB sells more than 3D Mario games and has more system appeal. Releasing it this early is a way to keep the momentum going for the 3DS and the Wii U launching with a Mario title is something that hasn't happened since the SNES. What the shit is your problem with that?
Last year the whole mantra was "WHERE ARE THE GAMES NINTENDO" now this year it's "GIVE MARIO A REST NINTENDO YOU'RE CREATIVELY BANKRUPT."
Correct. It failed. So they made the Wii. Was that conservative?
Nintendo is not a company that becomes conservative if something fails. If future NSMB games don't meet expectations, do you think they'll keep making them? They'll probably try something new in an attempt to replicate its past success.
Nintendo can do better than rehashing the same gameplay engine, music, worlds and enemies between generations.
What info leads you to assume DQXI had been in the works for a while now? SE teams all seem pretty locked up with games we know about so unless Level 5 has been contracted again I don't see it.
Odama, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat, Animal Crossing (though started an N64 game in Japan), Four Swords Adventures (and connectivity in general, e.g. Pac-Man Vs.).
Those would probably be the more cream choices. There were other ones, but then it starts getting into more murky waters about "superinnovative." Wavebird was also huge, in my opinion, but that's hardware.
metalslimer
Member
They'll try something new. That does not mean that something new won't be another casual game that you hate so much. Nintendo was taken aback by the shit sales of the 3DS in the west which is why NSMB2. And none of your criticisms about music,worlds,etc. apply to NSMBU.
electroplankton
Banned
I've just made a cake. Do you wanna a piece?
Metallix87
Member
The fact that DQX was in development for seven years before releasing. It seems logical that, if they were working on IX and X side-by-side at one point, that they're already commencing work on XI. I find it difficult to believe that they have done nothing with regards to XI yet.
Not for me. The cake is a lie, remember.
Didn't we first see NSMB2 this year at a Nintendo Direct? Clearly the 3DS became an overwhelming success after the price drop and 3D Land/Kart/Monster Hunter. Releasing two Mario games on the platform less than a year apart baffles me, especially when the first, albeit not 2D, is currently the best selling 3DS game.
Does 3DS really need a 2D Mario right now? Does 3D Land, the best selling game on the console, have such weak "system appeal" that it can't guide the 3DS through a second holiday season? I feel it would have been better to wait until next year, especially with NSMB U coming in a mere three months.
N64 launched with a Mario game, btw.
And my problem is I'm sick to death of the NSMB series. Is that not clear?
"Where are the games Nintendo" is a troll. Anyone with a half a brain new they were coming during the holiday. On the other hand, releasing all these NSMB games is pretty creatively bankrupt on Nintendo's part. The best selling point they could think of for 2 is... coins. And the Tanooki tail. Seriously?
test_account
XP-39C²
How much does a game like Oni Training cost to make? Also including marketing budget.
metalslimer
Member
You must have been ignoring the west because 3DS is not doing well at all outside of Japan. The 3DS XL and NSMB2 are Nintendo's attempt to fix that. I have my doubts about how well it will work, but yes the 3DS needed something big.
Announced at a quarterly briefing (to give reason to expect better sales results). First picture came from one, too, I think.
I think it was vaguely announced, but the official unveiling was at a Nintendo Direct.