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[Taker666]

Nice to see the Wii U improving...but another high profile release was really needed for late December.

They really could have done with a Mario Party for Wii U. I never understood why they slowed that franchise... as the yearly release on the Gamecube always did decent business (Wii Party just never has the same appeal IMO).

 

[gamergirly]

Whoa Wii U sales jumped lol

 

[Yasumi]

God Eater 2 inching past 500,000 combined physical. It definitely deserves those sales. Such a good game.

 

[frankMX]

[3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel

Its too obvious.

Wii U finally has a good week.Is this solely because of DQ10?

 

[Screamapillar]

Nice presence for Wii U this week. 3D World finally showing some legs. I wonder if 3DS YTD can best 2012? It's not looking likely at this point. May hit just under 5m this year in Japan. I still don't believe 3DS has peaked yet, in any region. At any rate, no doubt Nintendo is enjoying what is looking like a decent Wii U performance this holiday, even though I'm sure they would like to have seen a little more.

 

[Celine]

Dat 3DS!

It could have done better IMO.

 

[CuznLarry]

WIU = 48.762

Post-mortem twitch, probably just gas escaping.

 

[KingSnake]

DQX is an expansion, so not a system seller in itself, unless the first one charts too (or it has some incredible digital sales).

It is the holiday effect on Wii U but I think it's not only that, why it isn't the same effect on 3ds?

Still I think it will go back to 20k numbers.

I see you guys are getting out from your covers, NPD is coming take care.

Someone is salty.

 

[Sakura]

ALBW likely won't do much, and PDZ is a bit of a wild card still. Speaking of which, anybody know the initial shipment for PADZ?

ALBW will still do better than the 3DS releases last holiday I imagine, same with PDZ, so I'm hoping to see a strong boost around those releases.

 

[Phazon]

There's still no software to keep this up, this is an anomaly.

I know, that's what I'm afraid of

 

[FreedomFighter]

Wii U - 48.762

 

[Aostia]

I like that you felt the need to post this in both Media Create threads...

Why are you getting so worked up over good Wii U numbers?

Can you really blame if some Wii U owner on GAF is happy about 1 week good unexpected sales? with all the doom&gloom (justified, by some sort) around?
C'mon: there is a little hope that N will support it through 2015 at least, let's rejoice, nobodyìs gonna hurt by it

How is the Bravely Default sequel sales? Looks pretty terrible right?

that's just the "update", and for previous owners there is a cheaper DD one to get. These are probably 35K new consumer that now know the brand and probably will want the sequel

 

[Doczu]

I see you guys are getting out from your covers, NPD is coming take care. Though it had the base game too, my bad.

Chill man. I'm just happy that there might be a light in the tunnel for the Wii U. Because for the moment - mine is powered down since... well, long.

 

[LiberaTeExInferis]

WIU = 48.762

Post-mortem twitch, probably just gas escaping.

But what if it is Lazarus' first step...?
You can never know with these things...

 

[Shengar]

I'm not at all surprised. I told people it needed to be a PS4 launch title. Sony really blew a golden opportunity by putting it exclusively on PS3.

It could be put head to head with Forza 5, and makes it the one of the best launch title in history. But no, they must put two GT games for each generation.

 

[Magicpaint]

Still have the million seller in likely in puzzle and Dragon so it's not over yet.

Oh it is. Unless you expect P&D Z to push the 3DS harder than the 2011 holiday sales.

 

[1st Course]

Dunno why everyone are surprised about Wii U numbers.It's very known that Nintendo console s always do very well at the end of the year.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Really? Even with titles like PDZ and Zelda coming out? That's too bad.

Total 3DS sales in 2012:

5,497,737

Current YTD for 2013:

4.266.181

The difference is 1.23m and there are just 3 weeks left for the year, it would require average sales of over 400k per week, which is more than 275k higher than this week. Last year the 3DS sold 200k for the same week.

2012 may have been the peak year for 3DS, I expected it to be this year given the strength of the titles it received. It should still get to 5m though which is a good achievement.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

Maybe it's worth to mention that Monster hunter 4 has reached 3 million copies according to Media-Create, so that should be only retail sales.

16./26. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 15.039 / 3.496.578
17./24. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 12.816 / 1.523.528

Also some comebacks as it should be expected in this period.
Speaking of which, Animal crossing seemed such a juggernaut last year, now Pokemon and MH4 are almost there already.

 

[Nibel]

Dunno why everyone is surprised about Wii U numbers.It's very known that Nintendo console s always do very well at the end of the year.

We are talking about the Wii U here

The Wii U - check previous MCS threads and look at the misery that is the Wii U, than you might understand people's reactions

 

[FreedomFighter]

Fixed.

DQX syndrome. Is going back to 20k+ numbers next week if lucky.

You couldn't be more wrong. DQX had nothing to do with this. It's all holiday. Come back next week and quote yourself saying this.

 

[Principate]

Oh it is. Unless you expect P&D Z to push the 3DS harder than the 2011 holiday sales.

It's preordering higher than Animal crossing currently (yep that right). Though we'll see what effects it'll have on sales.

 

[AmanoBuff]

Oh come on, SCEA has no interest in the Vita. What made you think they'd want to push a glorified offshoot of it?

SCEA might not care about Vita, but they care about PS4, and right now Vita TV is an excellent accessory for that console, besides providing cheap access to a few Vita-compatible games that PS plus users might have.

I'm surprised at GT6 given how low the UK numbers were. Makes me think the PS4 launch did affect it to an extent.


Little bit OTT there.

Seems it really was the wrong move not to get GT6 on PS4.

Can we expect that to happen if it also doesn't sell as expected in the west? Or will Sony just move on to GT7 in a couple of years?

 

[MegalonJJ]

Great numbers for Wii U, but it still feels funny knowing that Iwata says it'll sell 9 million (worldwide, but still) by April.

I think Iwata will say something along the lines of "....9million would have happened but we had to delay key software (MK8/SSB),but as you can see 3D World gave the system a bump and it would have further grown had we been able to release key software...please understand.."

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Do we have a list of ''relevant'' releases for Vita after FFX/X2 hits? As in is January a graveyard?

Is DK confirmed for Feb release in Japan? Anything coming out besides that?

 

[SmokyDave]

Oh it is. Unless you expect P&D Z to push the 3DS harder than the 2011 holiday sales.

It was a fun ride though. I should've just stuck with my 'it will decline YoY' from the start.

I think it's bad news given the ammunition they've fired this year. It'll be very interesting to watch next year unfold.

Seems it really was the wrong move not to get GT6 on PS4.

Can we expect that to happen if it also doesn't sell as expected in the west? Or will Sony just move on to GT7 in a couple of years?

Absolutely. I've bought every GT game and nearly skipped over GT6 because I couldn't play it on my shiny new console. I'll double-dip if they do bring it over to PS4.

 

[StreetsAhead]

I like that you felt the need to post this in both Media Create threads...

Why are you getting so worked up over good Wii U numbers?

The post above mine the in other thread was a linking post to this one. I am on GAF to be part of the discussion, so I wanted to include what I had to say in the active discussion. I don't think it's that unusual. In fact, I've seen it happen many times.

Am I worked up? No. Am I pleased there may actually be a decent holiday bump when I was doubting there would be one? Sure.

 

[chadboban]

Was vita TV stock low from the start or are sales really that bad?

Also really nice bump for Wii U. I honestly only really expected it to hold about the same as it did last week with a minor bump. Also 3D World is showing some legs this week.

GT6 also sold better than I thought it would but considering no PS4 in Japan yet I guess I should of expected as much.

Also I see Nintendo Pacman is in full effect again.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Wii U!!

 

[shinra-bansho]

Can you really blame if some Wii U owner on GAF is happy about 1 week good unexpected sales? with all the doom&gloom (justified, by some sort) around?
C'mon: there is a little hope that N will support it through 2015 at least, let's rejoice, nobodyìs gonna hurt by it

Telling people to fuck off if they say this isn't entirely unexpected isn't rejoicing.

My relatively pessimistic expectation of what would be a reasonable 4 week total for December was 200K. It's on its way to meeting that, perhaps exceeding it - we'll see.

People like schuelma, iirc, said that would be the minimum to expect, noting the GCN did better it's second holiday. Others may have been similarly pessimistic or optimistic, ergo I don't know why it comes as surprise that this may not be beyond expectation as yet.

It doesn't change that it's a good number.

what I had to say in the active discussion

Again, saying fuck you to people generally isn't part of pleasant discussion. It just seems unnecessarily aggressive... :/

 

[Aostia]

I thought it contained the base game + expansion, I was wrong. Still I think it will go back to 20k numbers.
I see you guys are getting out from your covers, NPD is coming take care. Though it had the base game too, my bad.

Serious question: do you enjoy Wii U low nombers?

Dunno why everyone are surprised about Wii U numbers.It's very known that Nintendo console s always do very well at the end of the year.

yes, but it's not that Mario came out months ago. And did have lower effects on the HW sales than this DQX expension pack. Nobody was expecting Wii U numbers to see this bump, and it's actually the only console having seen a consistent bump this week, so...yes, there are people genuinely surprised by this (single week) good performance

Btw, calm down: Wii U is going nowhere. let's just people (interested in it) hope to see it not being discontinued in 2014

 

[allan-bh]

Apparently the Wii U will have a December much more decent than I thought. That's good.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

It was a fun ride though. I should've just stuck with my 'it will decline YoY' from the start.

I think it's bad news given the ammunition they've fired this year. It'll be very interesting to watch next year unfold.

Yeah, this was probably their biggest year in releases with MH4 and Pokemon, yet the console is down YoY. I think at this point is fair to assume that the portable market is just not there at it was with the DS and is going to be worst from now on.

Without the heavyhitters it will be nice to see 3DS evolution in 2014.

Serious question: do you enjoy Wii U low nombers?

I enjoy see people being down and in denial over the Wii U low numbers. Not these week numbers, but more in general.

Is kind of hilarious watching it from the sidelines.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

How is the Bravely Default sequel sales? Looks pretty terrible right?

It's not a sequel, it's a rerelease and it sold incredibly well.

 

[Magicpaint]

It's preordering higher than Animal crossing currently (yep that right). Though we'll see what effects it'll have on sales.

That's based on Comgnet numbers so I wouldn't go so far Anyway, we should be hoping for 5m YTD IMO.

It was a fun ride though. I should've just stuck with my 'it will decline YoY' from the start.

I think it's bad news given the ammunition they've fired this year. It'll be very interesting to watch next year unfold.

I think next year will show people how incredible 2013 actually has been for the 3DS, regardless of its slight drop YoY because 2014 is going to be a steep drop. It's really all relative. Back in the day when the DSLite didn't hit 100k+ in a normal sales week people acted like it was in trouble.

Yeah, this was probably their biggest year in releases with MH4 and Pokemon, yet the console is down YoY. I think at this point is fair to assume that the portable market is just not there at it was with the DS and is going to be worst from now on.

Without the heavyhitters it will be nice to see 3DS evolution in 2014.

That's pointing out the obvious, dude. But that was also true for the DS. 2007 -> 2008 was a major drop (I'm not even sure 3DS will drop as badly as DS did). It's a normal sales curve for systems that sell as highly initially as DS/3DS did.

 

[Sakura]

Total 3DS sales in 2012:

5,497,737

Current YTD for 2013:

4.266.181

The difference is 1.23m and there are just 3 weeks left for the year, it would require average sales of over 400k per week, which is more than 275k higher than this week. Last year the 3DS sold 200k for the same week.

2012 may have been the peak year for 3DS, I expected it to be this year given the strength of the titles it received. It should still get to 5m though which is a good achievement.

I'm not saying it's likely, but I don't think 400k average over the next 3 weeks is outside the realm of possibility either. The only major releases over the remaining 3 weeks last year were Inazuma 11 and Fantasy Life. I'd like to believe it's possible that ALBW and PDZ will give the 3DS a stronger next 3 weeks, but maybe I am overestimating the popularity of those games.

 

[E-Cat]

Only 75% market share. When was Nintendo supposed to go 3rd party again?

75% market share for the week. Things will change somewhat once PS4 is released. Though 3DS will probably not be affected.

 

[AmanoBuff]

God Eater 2 inching past 500,000 combined physical. It definitely deserves those sales. Such a good game.

Wow, just noticed this. Great news. It really looks like a great entry. I hope we eventually get it localized.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

It's preordering higher than Animal crossing currently (yep that right). Though we'll see what effects it'll have on sales.

AC:NL did 600k out of the gate, it had epically long legs.

 

[KillerTravis]

December will be a good month for Wii U. I'm afraid January will be horrible though, unless word of mouth spreads about how awesome 3D World is.

 

[Aostia]

Telling people to fuck off if they say this isn't entirely unexpected isn't rejoicing.

My relatively pessimistic expectation of what would be a reasonable 4 week total for December was 200K. It's on its way to meeting that, perhaps exceeding it - we'll see.

People like schuelma, iirc, said that would be the minimum to expect, noting the GCN did better it's second holiday.

It doesn't change that it's a good number.

I enjoy see people being down and in denial over the Wii U low numbers. Not these week numbers, but more in general.
Is kind of hilarious watching it from the sidelines.

To me Wii U is a completely failure, sales wise. And I'm not expecting it neither to match those numbers nor to match GC LTD sales.

Just to clarify my position on it, sales wise.


I just find incredibly odd to see people rejoyce about it failure

Said by one of the non-vita owners that has always seen the chance for that hw to gain mmentum in the JP market back in the days

 

[Metallix87]

It could be put head to head with Forza 5, and makes it the one of the best launch title in history. But no, they must put two GT games for each generation.

Indeed. Interestingly, all the lackluster launch complaints would have become null and void, making the new system look even more enticing, if that were at all possible. Japan most of all would've benefitted, since consumers would actually have a reason to buy a PS4 next year.

 

[GTP_Daverytimes]

It's actually pretty bad. Selling less than half of GT6.

One was tracked for 3 days the other 2, not that it matters too much. But it was always a given that GT6 will sell less than GT5, history showed that.

 

[Principate]

That's based on Comgnet numbers so I wouldn't go so far Anyway, we should be hoping for 5m YTD IMO.

It's the only information we have and it's consistently good amazon preorders. (it's been practically at the top for at least a few months now).

AC:NL did 600k out of the gate, it had epically long legs.

And was the sole game to push that holidays which was my point.

 

[test_account]

It's preordering higher than Animal crossing currently (yep that right). Though we'll see what effects it'll have on sales.

That is only at Comgnet though, which counts for 19 stores across whole Japan, if i remember correctly. Hard to say how it is in Japan in general. But Puzzle & Dragons is one of the biggest IPs in Japan right now, so i will be very surprised if it dont sell well.

 

[Madouu]

Bravely Default numbers are pretty good.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Again, saying fuck you to people generally isn't part of pleasant discussion. It just seems unnecessarily aggressive... :/

You'll note that I said active and not pleasant, then.

 

[stryke]

Is there anything specific about this week that ALL systems are up?

 

[Sakura]

December will be a good month for Wii U. I'm afraid January will be horrible though, unless word of mouth spreads about how awesome 3D World is.

I think the Wii U has a stronger first 2 quarters next year in terms of software than it did this year though. So while January will probably be poor, I'm hoping for a stronger baseline.

 

[ab.aeterno]

WiiU had a big bump. Will be interesting to see how this trend continues over the coming weeks and into 2014. This is certainly better than it had been doing, but now we have to see if the momentum means a new, higher post-holiday baseline or it collapses again.

The irony is you felt the need to answer twice to him in both threads

Congrats on the (fitting) tag! ;p