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Media Create Sales: Week 5, 2015 (Jan 26 - Feb 01)

I'm really liking God Eater. Any chance it comes out in the west?

Oh I know, i can just post screens of sections of the game and have you guys translate! YEAH!

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Like what does that screen say? Some kind of mission evaluation screen. But can't make any of it out ( outside of the obvious mission time and such ). And whats with the sudden use of [GAP] in there?
 

Jamix012

Member
Yeah, as sensationalistic as this may sound now, my prediction of P5 breaking 1 million before FFXV isn't some stretch anymore.

It's not about that trailer, it's simply about how much demand Atlus has generated as the months go by. Even looking at how they release content in front of thousands of fans for a music concert is just strange to think about. They're on fire right now.

I'm with you that P5 will break 1 million LTD. I said so last thread. I really think they've positioned themselves perfectly to break out as the next big franchise in Japan.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Exhaustive list of PS3 games that reached over 1 million copies, even when you combine all versions and re-releases (ultimate hits, gold edition, budget price, etc):

1.) Final Fantasy XIII - 1,965,465
2.) Resident Evil 5 - 1,026,495
 

prwxv3

Member
Yeah, as sensationalistic as this may sound now, my prediction of P5 breaking 1 million before FFXV isn't some stretch anymore.

It's not about that trailer, it's simply about how much demand Atlus has generated as the months go by. Even looking at how they release content in front of thousands of fans for a music concert is just strange to think about. They're on fire right now.

I agree. who ever is in charge of promotion of P5 is doing their job very well. I honestly think it will do pretty decently out of japan too with the ps4 version.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Exhaustive list of PS3 games that reached over 1 million copies, even when you combine all versions and re-releases (ultimate hits, gold edition, budget price, etc):

1.) Final Fantasy XIII - 1,965,465
2.) Resident Evil 5 - 1,026,495

Is that really it? ;.;
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Only two games, huh. 1 mil. for Persona 5 would be neat, but it's certainly looking unlikely, as discussed in the previous thread. Still... P5 is a remarkable PS3 game. I don't think it's impossible.

Interested in seeing how the P4G budget release does.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Yep: https://sites.google.com/site/japanltdrank/show?platform=PS3

Resident Evil wouldn't have made it without "Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition / Resident Evil: Revival Selection Twin Pack" even.

Thanks for the link btw. Wow.

Really puts things in perspective. I don't blame publishers for seeking better returns on mobile & handheld devices - the risk is just too high to develop console games geared for the Japanese market solely.

In regards to Persona 5 reaching 1 million in Japan - keep on dreaming. Highest it could reach is 500-600k LTD.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I'd like to point out those two games were released in 2009 - almost five years ago - when the console industry was notably healthier.
 

Busaiku

Member
I really doubt Persona 5'll be bigger than Tales (the better performing ones).
But if Persona 4 Golden The Best can put up similar numbers (to the initial release), then I'd be convinced.
 
Persona 5 should be able to pass 500k with relative ease but beyond that it's really too soon to tell. Once we get some info on preorders closer to release then we'll see what kind of beast we're dealing with. Also I'm assuming we're talking about PS3 and PS4 sales combined?
 

random25

Member
If we're talking about Japan-only, I really don't see Persona 5 reaching a million combined.

Honestly, the only RPGs I see reaching a million or more are the next mainline Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.
 

wmlk

Member
Consoles aren't healthy but this just seems like a perfect storm attuned to the Japanese audience in particular.
 

hiska-kun

Member
First Day Sell-Through {2015.02.05}

[PS3] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.690) - 70%
[PS4] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.690) - 80%

[3DS] Lost Heroes 2 # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.145) - 30%

[PSV] PhotoKano Kiss [EBKore] <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) (¥4.298) - 70%
 

duckroll

Member
I'd like to point out those two games were released in 2009 - almost five years ago - when the console industry was notably healthier.

But Sir Nirolak! Clearly you haven't seen the new charts! Across both PS3 and PS4, GTA5 has sold over a million in Japan too! That's a really recent game! Persona 5 could be just as popular. Why not?!
 

wmlk

Member
But Sir Nirolak! Clearly you haven't seen the new charts! Across both PS3 and PS4, GTA5 has sold over a million in Japan too! That's a really recent game! Persona 5 could be just as popular. Why not?!
Cut through the cynicism, and I think what's presented is actually a very valid point.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
But Sir Nirolak! Clearly you haven't seen the new charts! Across both PS3 and PS4, GTA5 has sold over a million in Japan too! That's a really recent game! Persona 5 could be just as popular. Why not?!

Oh, is that right?

...Heh, then why not? I guess the answer would be that GTA5 is just that much bigger, even in Japan.
 

Busaiku

Member
If we're talking about Japan-only, I really don't see Persona 5 reaching a million combined.

Honestly, the only RPGs I see reaching a million or more are the next mainline Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

Self avatar quote.
Oh, is that right?

...Heh, then why not? I guess the answer would be that GTA5 is just that much bigger, even in Japan.
Grand Theft Auto was almost always bigger than Persona ever was.
Only Grand Theft Auto IV did worse; Grand Theft Auto III, Vice City, and San Andreas were much better.
Vice City with its budget release sold more than Persona 3 and 4 combined.
 

Jamix012

Member
Consoles aren't healthy but this just seems like a perfect storm attuned to the Japanese audience in particular.

I agree. I really think it's do-able when taking into account budget re-releases and I believe it will hit 800k+ by the end of it's first holiday.
 

Anth0ny

Member
First Day Sell-Through {2015.02.05}

[PS3] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.690) - 70%
[PS4] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.690) - 80%

woah looks like Japan is pretty hungry for a Dragon Ball game.

Probably thanks to the new movie hype, too.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
It's at around 840k WW, and I would believe that whoever wanted to play the game got the game.

Yes...? We're talking about a Vita exclusive remake to a game that was less than 4 years old at the time. And you're saying that the first mainline release in the franchise since 7 years via Persona 5, for the PS3 and PS4, will perform about as well worldwide as P4G did worldwide. Am I really the only one who thinks that's ridiculous?
 
Yes...? We're talking about a Vita exclusive remake to a game that was less than 4 years old at the time. And you're saying that the first mainline release in the franchise since 7 years via Persona 5, for the PS3 and PS4, will perform about as well worldwide as P4G did worldwide. Am I really the only one who thinks that's ridiculous?
Which is a known quality. Can't say the same about P5.
 

I changed my expectations based on how badly PSV is performing this year, both hw- and sw-wise.

Dragon Ball Z: Legendary Super Warriors (GBC) - 68,049
Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors (GBA) - 160,176
Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II - International (GBA) - 66,834
Dragon Ball: Advance Adventure (GBA) - 185,781
Dragon Ball Z: Supersonic Warriors 2 (NDS) - 348,916
Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai (PSP) - 140,863
Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Goku Legend (NDS) - 150,724
Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (PSP) - 97,739
Dragon Ball: Origins (NDS) - 219,103
Dragon Ball: Evolution (PSP) - 7,513
Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saiyans (NDS) - 192,200
Dragon Ball: Origins 2 (NDS) - 66,767
Dragon Ball Z: Tenkaichi Tag Team (PSP) - 71,332
Dragon Ball Kai: Ultimate Butoden (NDS) - 89,911
Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission (3DS) - 282,561
Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z (PSV) - 42,599
Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission 2 (3DS) - 184,559

The Ultimate Mission 3DS games buck the overall franchise trend, but I'm not sure if the kids buying Heroes would buy a non-Heroes game. I guess Bandai Namco feels the same way. Shame too, since Ultimate Butouden and Attack of the Saiyans are the best Dragon Ball games in a very long time. Now Bandai Namco seems focused on phone games that continually flop.

i secretly hope arc system works is developing the interim game between xenoverse and xenoverse's sequel since i can't see xenoverse 2 in 2016, but it's probably the spike or artdink again

I know "international market and blabla" but those DB sales on Nintendo hardware are too good to be ignored. The best-selling DB games of the past years have all been on DS and 3DS.

woah looks like Japan is pretty hungry for a Dragon Ball game.

Probably thanks to the new movie hype, too.

A high sell-through during the first day might also mean that the shipment was little; and given previous DB numbers, this is probably the case.
 

Kikujiro

Member
No, it really isn't, for a bunch of reasons. Lol.

But didn't you see how huge the game is on GAF? The trailer thread is already 50 pages long, bigger than the last FFXV, Xenoblade and COD threads combined, the hype is real, the game will sell 1 million first week.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
But didn't you see how huge the game is on GAF? The trailer thread is already 50 pages long, bigger than the last FFXV, Xenoblade and COD threads combined, the hype is real, the game will sell 1 million first week.

TBF if you compare the threads sizes after the first major pieces of news you'd likely find the thread sizes much more comparable. Those games have been known about for years now so yes the discussion has died down.

Also it obviously won't be reaching a million first week if your not joking if it releases in Japan first. I doubt it'll be reaching a million even in Japan, the only games that have reached that number on the PS3 were from massive million seller franchises. Persona certainly ain't that.
 
Yeah, as sensationalistic as this may sound now, my prediction of P5 breaking 1 million before FFXV isn't some stretch anymore.

It's not about that trailer, it's simply about how much demand Atlus has generated as the months go by. Even looking at how they release content in front of thousands of fans for a music concert is just strange to think about. They're on fire right now.

I highly doubt that. At best I'm thinking 700k.

No, P5 won't sell a million in Japan. Hell, I doubt it will sell a million WW.

looooool

Come on now. P4G on the Vita is probably near a million. Persona 5 is a mainline entry on PS3 and PS4. Not to mention, I am seeing a lot of people saying Persona 5 is going to be there first Persona game. This franchise is growing.
 
I changed my expectations based on how badly PSV is performing this year, both hw- and sw-wise.



I know "international market and blabla" but those DB sales on Nintendo hardware are too good to be ignored. The best-selling DB games of the past years have all been on DS and 3DS.



A high sell-through during the first day might also mean that the shipment was little; and given previous DB numbers, this is probably the case.

Then why say the following statement lol.

Obviously Western sales are bigger than Japanese sales. NB shipped 500k+ in just two months in the West for Battle of Z.
 
Of course P5 will be a million seller worldwide. Hell, even Catherine shipped something like 200k in the States, and sold 250k in Japan.

Then why say the following statement lol.

Obviously Western sales are bigger than Japanese sales. NB shipped 500k+ in just two months in the West for Battle of Z.

Sales of DS / 3DS were also pretty good, also given how low-budget were the projects. Also, 3DS anime tie-ins might have a market in the West as well, given the userbase.
 

duckroll

Member
I think a realistic high-ish estimation of Persona 5 would be 500-600k in Japan, 1.2 million worldwide. That would be a huge success for Atlus. A more conservative estimate would be 400-500k in Japan, and 1 million worldwide. Anything lower than that would be a negative estimation on the franchise, while anything higher than this range is somewhat unrealistic.
 
Yeah I think it'll pass a million WW quite easily.

1 million in Japan? Nope. Where's that list of PS3 million sellers in Japan?
 
Don't see it hitting 1M in Japan but WW definitely possible. I feel like demand for Jrpgs in the west been on rise in the last few years compared to late 2000s (see Ni no Kuni, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, Tales etc).
 
Anecdotal: There were three preorder paper slips left after I ordered Type 0 today.

"Xbox One" was listed as a preorder option on the slip, but they politely informed me at the counter that it wouldn't be an option. lol
 

Oregano

Member
Then why say the following statement lol.

Obviously Western sales are bigger than Japanese sales. NB shipped 500k+ in just two months in the West for Battle of Z.

Why don't they follow the One Piece Unlimited Red strategy then? It seemed to work out fine for them and people seem to think it looks good graphically despite being a 3DS game at heart.
 
Of course P5 will be a million seller worldwide. Hell, even Catherine shipped something like 200k in the States, and sold 250k in Japan.



Sales of DS / 3DS were also pretty good, also given how low-budget were the projects. Also, 3DS anime tie-ins might have a market in the West as well, given the userbase.

In the West? With big franchises like DBZ and Naruto Western sales are far bigger and hence more important. The anime community is known to be there on platforms like PS360 so its a pretty safe decision.
 
In the West? With big franchises like DBZ and Naruto Western sales are far bigger and hence more important. The anime community is known to be there on platforms like PS360 so its a pretty safe decision.

JP sales of DS / 3DS DB games were pretty good; in fact, the best-selling DB games in Japan are on those platforms. Given the audience of 3DS in the West, Bandai Namco might invest a bit more in developing games that might appeal overseas. 3DS has a lot of kids, and kids buy a lot of anime games. OP sold well on 3DS in Europe, for example.
 

Shizuka

Member
Exhaustive list of PS3 games that reached over 1 million copies, even when you combine all versions and re-releases (ultimate hits, gold edition, budget price, etc):

1.) Final Fantasy XIII - 1,965,465
2.) Resident Evil 5 - 1,026,495

What about GTA V? I thought that adding the budget release, it crossed that mark this year.
 
Why don't they follow the One Piece Unlimited Red strategy then? It seemed to work out fine for them and people seem to think it looks good graphically despite being a 3DS game at heart.

OP is not nearly as popular or slanted towards the West so NB most likely thought a 3DS SKU in Japan would be the best idea. The ports to PS3/WiiU were actually pretty good from what I remember.


JP sales of DS / 3DS DB games were pretty good; in fact, the best-selling DB games in Japan are on those platforms. Given the audience of 3DS in the West, Bandai Namco might invest a bit more in developing games that might appeal overseas. 3DS has a lot of kids, and kids buy a lot of anime games. OP sold well on 3DS in Europe, for example.

I don't see a DBZ 3DS game being able to garner shipments of 500k in 2 months in the West.

Why take such risks when you have a large established base that buys the game as well as having two next gen systems that are growing quickly. Doesn't make much sense at all.
 

Kikujiro

Member
TBF if you compare the threads sizes after the first major pieces of news you'd likely find the thread sizes much more comparable. Those games have been known about for years now so yes the discussion has died down.

Also it obviously won't be reaching a million first week if your not joking if it releases in Japan first. I doubt it'll be reaching a million even in Japan, the only games that have reached that number on the PS3 were from massive million seller franchises. Persona certainly ain't that.

I was being sarcastic:) I should've added some "!!1!" to be more clear. There are people on GAF who really think the game is going to be huge just because it's extremely popular here, hence the silly comparisons with other games based on "forum hype".

I think the game's gonna sell well in Japan, but not close to 1 million. I hope the series will finally see some substantial growth in the Western market, especially in Europe, where there are some great markets for JRPGs (France in primis).
 
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