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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2013 (Feb 11 - Feb 17)

daripad said:
How many million sellers does the 3DS have? Worldwide please
In order of release:

Nintendogs + Cats (Nintendo)
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition (Capcom)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)
Pokémon Rumble Blast (Nintendo/Pokémon Co.)
Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo)
Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Capcom)
Mario Tennis Open (Nintendo)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star (Nintendo)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo)
Dragon Quest VII: Warriors of Eden (Square Enix)

+ Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix)
+ Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo)
;)
 

lherre

Accurate
to clarify i'm saying Versus13 -> FF15, exclusive Ps4 as rumors said (development changed to ps4 from ps3)

It's only a question from an almost impossible theory.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Getting repetitive I know, but I'll say again I think some of the Wii U doom is very premature.
 
I still can't believe how well the original 3DS is selling. That thing is horrendous in every way possible.

3DS Lite will hopefully roll out this year at some point.
Just seems the best way to go forward with the cost and battery lessons learnt in the XL.
 

farnham

Banned
Iwata must go crazy. On one hand they are dominating their homecountry, on the other hand they are in trouble.

Well they had a bad 3ds launch, kinda rectified the situation
Launched wiiu and have the same situation as 3ds.. Remains to be seen if they can rectify that situation too
 

Fabrik

Banned
LOL
You gathered that from the system about to drop below 10k

It's still in its first 3 months and it's a Nintendo system we're talking about. Any conclusion before fall 2013 is premature. There's more chance of a rebound this fall than the other way around IMO.

WiiU has a NSMB and a Monster Hunter and will have access to a DQ, yet is selling behind the PS3 right now, an old console. You're applying too much of the 3DS and DS success to the console equivalent. The Wii was an anomaly due to its casual reach and focus, and those people then also got the Mario's for that system they own already. WiiU just aint gonna claim that sort of install base. Its back to Gamecube-land.

IMO, Wii U is to Wii what 3DS is to DS. It's way more hardcore gamer focused. Its biggest sellers are and will be gamers games like 3DS software at the moment but less so as there's no Monster Hunter/Pokemon equivalent on home consoles yet.
 
Of the 4 games you listed, 2 of them are not even available yet. Why would people buy the console now instead of waiting for it to release?

But 2 are. And they are 2 huge franchises. There's really no excuse. The other two games should keep interest in the machine, not drive sales up for the machine. I don't know, I'm just saying the games for the WiiU are a lot more JP centric and yet its sales are very poor. We can kind of guess why the vita failed so badly (lost its major franchise to its main competitor, no major JP centric IPs are out for it, 3DS started beasting, etc) but it's hard to pinpoint exactly why the WiiU is failing in Japan.

I will launch a question here (where the sales experts are :) )

What effect will have a ps4 launch with a "main" Final Fantasy game with it? I'm not saying it will be the case of course, but it will be interesting (and with main FF i'm sure you all know what title is). Altough FF games are a bit down currently. But a fight with this vs mario titles will be curious to see.

FFXIII - 2 didn't even sell 1 million and LR might not even break 500k. It wouldn't be as big a deal as it was when this generation started. The same holds true for GT6.

Getting repetitive I know, but I'll say again I think some of the Wii U doom is very premature.

Certainly. Better to wait until after MK, SSB, Zelda etc are released and after TGS.
 

bak4fun

Unconfirmed Member
So next week, we could see the Wii U under 10k and the PSV under 5k, and the week after that, the PSV selling more than the Wii U. The next few weeks are going to be really interesting.
 
Iwata must go crazy. On one hand they are dominating their homecountry, on the other hand they are in trouble.

They can sell all the 3DSs they want, but that price drop seemed to really put a damper on the profitability per unit. I don't remember the numbers that were crunched, but I do remember it being conjectured that there needed to be a massive increase in attach rate, something I'm not sure they've achieved yet.
 
Well, all the things are possible :p

Nah, I think the most expected way is multiplatform ps3/orbis if it's only sony's game. If not, ps360/nextgens, not sure about wii u.
Orbis/Durango is the most likely imo, if Versus/XV gets pushed to nextgen. If not, then PS360 and possibly U.
 

saichi

Member
But 2 are. And they are 2 huge franchises. There's really no excuse. The other two games should keep interest in the machine, not drive sales up for the machine. I don't know, I'm just saying the games for the WiiU are a lot more JP centric and yet its sales are very poor. We can kind of guess why the vita failed so badly (lost its major franchise to its main competitor, no major JP centric IPs are out for it, 3DS started beasting, etc) but it's hard to pinpoint exactly why the WiiU is failing in Japan.

when you have a 3 months window with 3 retail games scheduled, which at best would sell 10K each, it's not hard to pinpoint why WiiU is not selling in Japan.
 
I want DQ7. Japan gets to have all the fan. I'm glad 3DS is doing so well in japan, but it's also not that great due to region lock. I want more japanese support but how will I enjoy it.
 

Kenka

Member
Well, all the things are possible :p

Nah, I think the most expected way is multiplatform ps3/orbis if it's only sony's game. If not, ps360/nextgens, not sure about wii u.
lherre, a bit OT but since you are here, why not not ask. Based on the WiiU known specs and assuming we would not know of the Japanese garden demo, would we have assume it would have been able to run it ? To me, the demo is not too far off Agni Philosophy but I am no technie.
 

lherre

Accurate
lherre, a bit OT but since you are here, why not not ask. Based on the WiiU known specs and assuming we would not know of the Japanese garden demo, would we have assume it would have been able to run it ? To me, the demo is not too far off Agni Philosophy but I am no technie.

I won't put bird demo in the same "league" than agni's philosophy. Bird demo is nice like zelda techdemo but not impressive in my opinion. I don't see a problem for wii u or ps360 to run it.
 
I want DQ7. Japan gets to have all the fan. I'm glad 3DS is doing so well in japan, but it's also not that great due to region lock. I want more japanese support but how will I enjoy it.

Not arguing region-lock is a good thing as such - as a matter of principle I think that's an anti-consumer policy -, but to be fair I reckon most Japanese games would be quite unplayable from those not able to read Japanese, so most people would always have to wait for games being localised.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
still ridiculous U sales

Vita is steadily leaning towards nonexistence

3DS is a steamroller as always. NSMB2 has some really impressive legs
 

guek

Banned
I honestly expected wii u to drop below 10k well before this point. Next week I guess!

3DS is a monster. I'm saddened though that it seems like it's becoming more and more of a Japan-first handheld and less of an internationally focused platform.
 
when i played animal crossing on the gamecube, i wondered why this franchise wasn't more popular and i never would have thought it'd become one of the biggest games in japan.
 
Not arguing region-lock is a good thing as such - as a matter of principle I think that's an anti-consumer policy -, but to be fair I reckon most Japanese games would be quite unplayable from those not able to read Japanese, so most people would always have to wait for games being localised.
but for games that DEFINITELY won't come to NA, there will be some that can be played with a guide of sorts, or if it's pick up and play then I wouldn't need anything.

Just sucks.
 
Not arguing region-lock is a good thing as such - as a matter of principle I think that's an anti-consumer policy -, but to be fair I reckon most Japanese games would be quite unplayable from those not able to read Japanese, so most people would always have to wait for games being localised.

That's why region lock is idiotism - business impact is small - while it hits the most enthusiastic fanbase - so the people you want the most since their enthusiasm will sell consoles through the word of mouth.
 

Kenka

Member
I won't put bird demo in the same "league" than agni's philosophy. Bird demo is nice like zelda techdemo but not impressive in my opinion. I don't see a problem for wii u or ps360 to run it.
That's worth a big :-(.
Oh boy, you would have thought this would have been a technical showcase. Pff...
 

extralite

Member
That's why region lock is idiotism - business impact is small - while it hits the most enthusiastic fanbase - so the people you want the most since their enthusiasm will sell consoles through the word of mouth.

100 % agreed. Also I hope Nintendo keeps using DD to bring more Japan only games over, like they already did with the hanabi festivals. Having a Japanese section in the eShop would be perfect to sell more of these games over here. And they'd still have total control over distribution, which is the whole point of the region lock. If a game release doesn't collide with a later proper release, because the game isn't even scheduled, why not make it available untranslated? Needs warnings of course and the section shouldn't be too easy to find so non-importing customers don't stumble into it and buy something they can't read by accident.
 

guek

Banned
I'm also surprised that Nintendoland and NSMBU continue to chart. But I guess when you think about it, it makes sense. Their combined sales are almost exactly equal to Wii U weekly sales, leaving nothing for 3rd parties.
 

ASIS

Member
Getting repetitive I know, but I'll say again I think some of the Wii U doom is very premature.
It is pemature if you are only viewing the current data. But when you forecast the short term environment, it is looking kinda bleak right now.
 

marc^o^

Nintendo's Pro Bono PR Firm
So I heard Japan likes 3DS. Good Lord.
I wonder if Nintendo will release a new model in a couple of years with a high end screen. Whatever, 3DS has become a phenomenon there, it may even outsell the DS. I predict Miiverse will be huge on it, and games won't stop coming.
 

zero_suit

Member
I wonder if Nintendo will release a new model in a couple of years with a high end screen. Whatever, 3DS has become a phenomenon there, it may even outsell the DS. I predict Miiverse will be huge on it, and games won't stop coming.

I highly doubt it.
 
Getting repetitive I know, but I'll say again I think some of the Wii U doom is very premature.

Premature maybe but very premature maybe not, it's going to be rough all the way through till the second half of the year. The q2 stuff will stem the bleeding somewhat but won't reverse it's fortunes.

Even in the second half of the year Pokemon will be all consuming and the likely PS4 will also take some thunder. Really hard to give a proper thought when there is so little announced or what is announced is mostly not dated but that in itself is the worrying thing.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Wow, Wii U following the Vita's original trajectory. Soon to drop below 10k.

Vita at least had to compete with a 3DS which just got a big price drop 3D Land, Mario Kart and Monster Hunter.....WiiU on the other hand....lol
 
Vita at least had to compete with a 3DS which just got a big price drop 3D Land, Mario Kart and Monster Hunter.....WiiU on the other hand....lol

Wii U is competing with everything. Since there is no clear distinction between console and handheld anymore the 3DS is probably stealing a lot of sales Wii U could potentially have.
 

z0m3le

Banned
It is more future proof than the DS, in terms of 3D graphics and connectivity.

And it's getting DS and PSP franchises.
And to add to that, it isn't competing with another handheld, the 70million+ market that PSP held world wide is not in the cards for vita, of course mobile will eat into 3ds but if China and other markets open up, Nintendo could push 3ds beyond ds in a 7 year life cycle.
 
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