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NPD May 2012 Sales Results [Up4: Max Payne 3, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost Recon]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Something something hitting their stride
I don't believe this to be true at all. There's been no major software since Kid Icarus to drive the hardware. It's been selling in May with no big titles to embrace that launched in May. It's essentially a dry period.
What can franchises that have no appeal outside existing 360 owners do?
Puppet Shadow
Member
Huh, just one exclusive in the top 10.
UberTag
Member
With $99 service contract systems available and that lineup (along with BLOPS2 & AC3), it probably will be.
It'll be close to record-setting if not actually outright setting the mark.
IN CHRISTMAS #8!
People that want to own an Xbox own one. That's it. Sales of course are going to drop to nothing once you've saturated your market with your game system. It's already sold to pretty much everyone that's going to buy it. Same with the other current gen systems.
What were people expecting? It's not like a whole new audience of people are still on the fence about buying a game system.
What were people expecting? It's not like a whole new audience of people are still on the fence about buying a game system.
FateBreaker
Member
I agree...and maybe they could use it as a benefit. As much as I like DD, sometimes I do felt it could have worked better with a more directed, streamlined approach to a certain degree. Very few games can pull off something Skyrim did and sell well. Maybe something less "big" will mean less money, and DD2 might sound plausible to Capcom.
Rebellion's stealth game outselling it mystifies me. Stop the pain, Nirolak. I can't handle the truth.
shinra-bansho
Member
Did they release numbers/PR last month...?
outunderthestars
Banned
record ipad/iphone sales would show that consumers will still buy things they want. This generation has just gone on too long and the market is basically saturated. What would make someone buy a 360/PS3/Wii at this point if they have not bought one in the last six years?
MikeE21286
Member
It's like they stick their head in the sand regardless of the numbers lol
Edit: what was last gem in terms of total hardware? <200M?
We've already surpassed that at higher pice points. Saturation is here obviously.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Craziest thing about this is that this is the first month that includes Walmart data. I wonder how ugly the numbers would look without that.
except for the fact that theres still another year and a half to go before next gen arrives. These numbers are what would be expected months before new consoles launch.
I'm happy about this news, and hopefully they get even worse next month. They need to wake the fuck up.
outunderthestars
Banned
They always included an estimated version.
Seeing the 3DS numbers, I really think it was a fool's folly to give 3DS so little in the upcoming holiday. I don't think NSMB2 wkll be enough. There needs to something with mass appeal.
Put it this way. The 3DS sold nearly the same amount as this month in US in one week in Japan a couple of weeks ago. Japan has a population that is a third the size of America.
Could it be that home consoles are dying in Japan and handhelds are dying in NA?
Put it this way. The 3DS sold nearly the same amount as this month in US in one week in Japan a couple of weeks ago. Japan has a population that is a third the size of America.
Could it be that home consoles are dying in Japan and handhelds are dying in NA?
UberTag
Member
Walmart data was being estimated before. This just makes the numbers more accurate now.
Sniper Elite V2 probably got a bump due to Walmart but I doubt it made much of an impact elsewhere.
Could be. Although VITA isn't exactly flourishing anywhere and Nintendo will still do OK in North America portable space due in large part to Mario and Pokemon. I still think they're in better shape there domestically than in the console space. And that's bad news given an already contracted portable market due to mobile.
Walmart has always been estimated so far. So the numbers were not "missing", just not accurate.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Previous NPD numbers included estimated Walmart data. Maybe their estimates were way off, lol.
Walmart sales were (pseudo-)included before, just as an estimate. It's not like a raw increase to all the sales numbers.
Baconsammy
Banned
Even in a good economy I doubt Nintendo handheld games at 40 bucks would do well in the face of iPad/iPhone titles. Nintendo doesn't get it. They just released DK Jr for 5 dollars on the Eshop. No enhancements. 5 bucks. For 5 bucks I can get 5 really good iPhone games. If consoles/handhelds eventually do die(they wont), it won't be because people all of a sudden said they were tired of gaming.
MikeE21286
Member
Probably not that much.
They always estimate them. I guess they would only look worse if you felt they underestimated Walmart.
Phonomezer
Banned
Thank you. Roll on next gen. Where do Sony and MS go from here? Padding out the next 16 months is going to be hell without substantial price drops or customer incentive.
And lets face it; aside from the SAME OLD SAME OLD CoD, the last BIG title to come out for this generation will be Halo 4. I don't see the new Gears, GoW or The Last of Us making a big impact.
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Console launch of the forever ;_;
outunderthestars
Banned
Assassin's Creed 3 and Bioshock Infinite will both do well.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Whoops my bad. I wonder how far the estimates ended up being from reality then.
so tempted to avatar quote...
The lead in till next gen is going to be HORRIBLE. At least Nintendo have their next gen system out by the end of the year, what are Sony/MS going to do for the next year?
Petrae
Member
Sony PR is wonderful. No Vita mention, talks about exclusives that weren't even Top 10.
Who? I know Sony did but don't recall seeing the Nintendo one
Baconsammy
Banned
Touch/iPhone/iPads are technically handhelds. The handheld market is not dying in the West. It's growing actually.
Graphics Horse
Member
And GTA assuming it's this gen.
Pretty sure the NPD just estimated Walmart sales before this month so I don't think it would have made a huge difference. Don't quote me on that though.
EDIT: Beaten.....
Thanks.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Momentum?
Phonomezer
Banned
Well enough to bring in a reasonable amount of new hardware adopters? Halo 4 has the best chance of any game to create SOME hardware demand, and that just boils down to Microsoft's amazing marketing and PR machine.
Edit: Oh yeah, GTAV... keep it for next-gen launch, we'll get a better game out of it.
they still have the $149.99 and $99.99 price points to boost sales temporarily. They're just gonna have to do it sooner than they'd hoped.
Sammy Samusu
Member
And the 3DS just sold 100k in one week in Japan, lol.
Reggie what the fuck are you doing man. Somebody is getting fired.
Reggie what the fuck are you doing man. Somebody is getting fired.
UberTag
Member
Nothing speaks volumes about Nintendo of America's lack of awareness on a lot of things right now than an emulated NES version of Donkey Kong Jr. being priced at $4.99 in 2012.
Even the most diehard Nintendo apologists can't consider that to be a fundamentally sound pricing strategy.
Downward momentum still counts as momentum.
They didn't say in what direction.
outunderthestars
Banned
I see more potential hardware demand with AC 3 and Bioshock Infinite than with Halo 4.
What halo fan skipped 3, ODST, and Reach but would suddenly want to get Halo 4?
PR redeemed.