Makes sense. Too bad for us, less data available.
With digital share increasing even NPD will become less and less interesting.
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NPD Sales Results for April 2016 [Sony, MS, & Nintendo refuse to comment on hardware]
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Makes sense. Too bad for us, less data available.
With digital share increasing even NPD will become less and less interesting.
unapersson
Member
Got a text from my wife asking me to buy cream and sugar on the way home. Could it be a sign?
I repost this again.
Halo 5 sales:
The bundle has sold 93,000 unit in 2 weeks. So, if we count bundle, the digital ratio is 28%, while if we exclude bundle, it's 35%.
Halo 5 sales:
- Withouth bundle and digital - 842,000
- With bundle but not digital - 935,000
- With bundle and digital - 1,300,000
The bundle has sold 93,000 unit in 2 weeks. So, if we count bundle, the digital ratio is 28%, while if we exclude bundle, it's 35%.
They should report revenue anyway just like the movie industry. It will ultimately still have the same effect/PR buzz, plus it will eliminate the pointless arguments about games that only have high sales figures due to a humble bundle or steam sale.
And what's the source of that? How do you know the digital ratio?
I believe Zhuge said that was the case as well as another retail person at the time
CosmicQueso
Member
PREDICTION TIME
Does Homefront across all platforms sell > or < in May than QB's April?
Does Homefront across all platforms sell > or < in May than QB's April?
DriftingSpirit
Member
Slightly >.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Hmmm Qb was 150 with bundles right? I'll go crazy and say even with the terrible ass reviews homefront outsells it.
How many copies did the original Homefront sell? My best guess is that this game should do about 70- 80% less than the previous game which might still be higher than all other April releases sans DS3.
slavesnyder
Member
Homefront should win slightly because multiplat.
But it's a tough question.
Less than, there is absolutely no buzz around Homefront.
I'm pretty sure most people forgot it was coming out this month, I wonder what game will share a similar fate next.
Homefront doesn't even make the chart.
slavesnyder
Member
I like your avatar.
Thanks, but my point still stands: How do they know the digital ratio / sales?
How can they know the digital sales of the game if MS didn't announce them?
slavesnyder
Member
Sweet.
Reading the review thread I take back my prediction. Homefront will sell next to nothing and get beaten by QB by a nose.
Voost Kain
Banned
I'm actually baffled that Homefront 2 was greenlighted in the first place. I though the first one flopped like a flounder on a cold sunny day?
AnthonypUK
Member
because THQ
DeadOnions
Member
Which will sell less Battleborn or Homefront?
Bruno MB
Member
The hint is that 3DS sales not being leaked yet means that they are totally irrelevant, so expect very low sales.
When 3DS does decently enough like the last 2 months we won't have to wait for too long since we usually get the numbers along with the other systems.
slavesnyder
Member
When THQ went broke, everyone wanted a piece from the corpse. Koch/Deepsilver chose Homefront.
No good choice.
To be fair, outside of the PC franchises, it was the one of the selling games in their portfolio. They also bought the rights to Saints Row and Metro.
Voost Kain
Banned
THQ had a lot of better choices, maybe Homefront did better than I'm thinking? What were its sales?
CosmicQueso
Member
Watching these Homefront streams. My goodness. Yeah, I'll take the under. Way under.
Battleborn will easily eclipse Homefront.
The Mad Draklor
Member
I'm taking the under for Homefront. The reception is not very good.
Lupin the Third
Member
Edit: No one cares apparently so I guess you guys can make do without.
The math doesnt add up Ryng. If 28% digital includes the bundle then 842,000 @ 72% would make 100% sales 1,169,000. The only way 1,300,000 makes sense if if the 28% does not include the bundle. Then with 935,000 @ 72% would mean 100% = 1,298,000. SO which is it?
Is it
28% includes bundles = 1,169,000 copies sold
or
28% w/o bundles = 1,300,000 copies sold
?
After the reviews its been getting and the general lack of awareness about its release I dont see how it wouldnt sell significantly less. I'm thinking it will be less than 100k sold.
Homefront. Definitely. Battleborn will bomb but Homefront wont even register.
Yeah they are something else. I continue to be baffled by that studio's game releases. Especially given it's staff's pre Haze pedigree. I'm sure there was a lot of pressure from the publisher w/ budget and to wrap development. But even still its a mess. Can't see this ending well for them.
? Cares about what? Here on the other side of the world I was sleeping. When it comes to sales I always care.
Welfare
Member
Still two different situations. Halo 3 launched after massive praise of Halo 2 that had a strong online community and everyone had to wait 3 years after Halo 2.
Halo 5 launched 1 year after MCC, the first game on the XB1 that completely destroyed the community's perception of 343i because of the shit multiplayer and glitchy campaign's. Bad word of mouth for Halo had basically been extended another year because the last mainline Halo, 4, was also panned heavily for its shit online.
3 years of waiting for Halo 3, with massive anticipation thanks to Halo 2 and was the first Halo on the 360.
3 years of waiting for Halo 5 from 4, with terrible word of mouth by the online community and then the first Halo game on the XB1 completely shit on all aspects of the package, hurting Halo even more.
Halo 5 had a much harder time to sell compared to Halo 3.
Can't care if you edit.
Omnistalgic
Member
thats a lot of conjecture. I think if Halo 5 had amazing reviews and set a new bench mark for online all that terrible word of mouth goes away. I think you are underestimating the fact that often times good games sell very well. I mean what exactly is a "hard time to sell" you make it sound like people wanted it to fail or something.
Welfare
Member
Halo 5 did sell very well, just not on the levels of previous Halo's.
The point is that the 3 year wait for Halo 5 was completely different compared to the 3 year wait for Halo 3.
Also doesn't help that Halo was going down in sales after Halo 3, so we were always going to see "low" sales for 5.
Also previous games in a series having bad word of mouth has an impact on the next.
Liabe Brave
Member
There's not much to respond to when you post vague unsourced number ranges, especially when we already know exact values for most of them. Sorry if not enough attention came your way; perhaps it would be more satisfying to find a different reason to contribute to the discussion?
Here's what they said:
We already knew the exact numbers for Xbox One, PS4, and Wii U. So the only new data is that 64k < 3DS < 100k.Lupin the Third said:
herminihildo
Member
Ah cheers! So we have a range for 3DS but its way to wide to be helpful honestly. Still need 3DS figures for prediction results and the range doesn't help much in that regard I'm afraid.
Liabe Brave
Member
We might not even have a range. It's unclear what the source of the numbers is.
Lupin the Third
Member
First off, Wii U was 32k, not 64k. 3DS was 75k.
Lifetime NPD HW sales: PS4 13.5m, X1 11.9m, 3DS 17m, WiiU 5.2m
Have a great day.
Welfare
Member
Thanks.
Oh, and thanks to the off site source with the username, Aquamarine.
Quantum Break: Approx. 109K standalone [Alan Wake was 145k, so a 25% drop.]
Star Fox Zero: Approx. 100K
Ratchet not significantly above 207.5k
You said WiiU was less than half of 3DS so if WiiU was less than half then that means 3DS is more than 2x WiiU. 2 x 32k= 64k.
75k is a huge drop for 3DS
wow. Why the hell is this platform so damn volatile and unpredictable?At least we can tabulate predictions now. Thanks.
Lupin the Third
Member
Yeah, I'm an idiot. Carry on.
EDIT: Also blew me away to learn PS4 and X1 are as close as they are. You'd think Xbox One was a massive distant 2nd but those numbers ain't so far apart to me. Mostly just wanted to share that little tidbit with you guys; don't wanna lose NPD access so I'm done. Have fun!
No worries. Thanks for sharing. I think most were expecting a relatively close month with the promotions XB1 was running. A few even predicted a possible XB1 win this month.
Welfare
Member
Hey it could be worse! At least you formatted your predictions correctly.... T_T
Oh, my God! My prediction was right! Quantum Break sold less than 120K without bundles. And I thought it was a bold prediction at that time.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Jesus, who would have thought R&C sold better than QB?
wapplew
Member
Almost double without bundle...
Oh, my God! My prediction was right! Quantum Break sold less than 120K without bundles. And I thought it was a bold prediction at that time.
Cream never posted in the thread. I hope he's alright. Maybe Cream really has forsaken us...